slantback

[vador99]

Can we slantback an h2 sut?

[vador99]

Can we slantback an h2 sut?

[HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ]

I would think so. Just takes money and the skill to use the right material. I can ask the guys what they think about it.
We work and lay carbon fiber by hand and different kinds of glass and molding material. It would require one on site as I would not want to trust measurements in order to get a good tight fit.
I have thought about doing it on my daily driver SUT for next year that I have been thinking about.

TAZ

[HGW]

Arnold has one---there is a pic of it around somewhere. It is slick with metal and glass.

[HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ]

I think if everyone will search there was a thread about someone trying it. I'm not sure if anyone tried. I know a carpenter made on offer to build one but, do not know where it went.
I think what We would do is build a mold and even though it would be painted use carbon fiber and honey comb type cardboard to lay it so it would be strong and light.

I'll talk to the guys after the weekend about it. We are trying to finish up for a contest week from friday and last one of the year until I think March 2006. Allot to do next week and Sikkens is excited about the Shop Boss paint design and is furnishing all the paint Dragon told Me tonight. We have left inside is 12" monitor and installing the 4 captain seats that Katzkin sponsored the covering. Plus a bunch of LED's and billet.
If I can remember I'll ask Boss what he thinks but, as far as material and possibilty Dragon would know more than any of Our crew as he went of to school for all that stuff and is certified A/V man.

TAZ

[timgco]

Use the find button for "slantback."
I gave up on this. I even tracked down the manufact. of the three that are in extistance and no luck. They will not produce it without some paying for the tooling costs. BS is what I said!

[NJ H2]

http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/ga/ul/5721058401/inlineimg/Y/hydrogenh2.jpg

[NJ H2]

http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/ga/ul/1151028401/inlineimg/Y/SUT_Slantback.jpg

[Beastmaster]

Actually, it's not too farfetched to think that it would be somewhat expensive to create a tooling for it.

It would likely be cheaper to go the custom route.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by timgco:
Use the find button for "slantback."
I gave up on this. I even tracked down the manufact. of the three that are in extistance and no luck. They will not produce it without some paying for the tooling costs. BS is what I said! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[NJ H2]

http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/ga/ul/2641068401/inlineimg/Y/H2H-04s.jpg

[NJ H2]

http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/ga/ul/5441068401/inlineimg/Y/H2H-03s.jpg

[NJ H2]

http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/ga/ul/6441068401/inlineimg/Y/H2H-02s.jpg

[NJ H2]

http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/ga/ul/9041068401/inlineimg/Y/H2H-01s.jpg

[firm]

looks like an aztec

[Beastmaster]

Oh, I would like to add that:

Add on shells would look good, provide lockable storage (well, the ones in the pictures don't show lockable), but you would have some weatherproofing issues as well as fit/finish issues when mounting it.

[HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ]

That would be Our problem Tim is cost being held down. I really think We could do it with the same type material Burt Rutan uses in His planes but, they would be each one by hand. I'm interested enough I'll take this up with Dragon as i mentioned He knows how to use all that stuff and hand lay it. So You now how it is when it is done by hand and cannot be mass produced at least not in Our case. We do allot of one of things but, the client pays for it and they know when they come it will not be cheap. WE could have 2 guys on a bag system build for a month and some times 2 when there is no prebuilt system and We build the bag system by hand for the ride. But, there are just some people that want something so unique they do not care. I know You told them it did not matter what it cost within reason but, they would not do it. Maybe We can get a rig in after i talk to the guys and We can get real good measurements and use a SUT to build the first mold on then it would make it easier once We have a mold We know We can work with and ship so We can see how fit turned out. Hopefully it will just set right on the rig with rubber seals. The hard part would be getting it to hinge but, it is doable. It would be great to get some detailed pics that could be used to formulate a somewhat different plan.
It would be cool and fun to try it if We could find the time or someone to put up the money to produce a workable rig or not pay for all of it but, cover labor expended and We eat the material if it did not work. It would be an experiment and the client understand that also.

TAZ

[vador99]

I love the pics... merci

[rodster]

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[tomp]

While at it, how hard would it be to make a cover for the bed that was easily removable? this would be much easier to build and profitablehttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[KenP]

First of all, Firm is a bigot. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Second, I'd love to have a slantback. Then I could pose as an H1. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[HGW]

I like the slantbacks in the pics.

[HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ]

There are companies that are already making and selling flat covers. I forget who it is but, i have seen several SUT's around Our area with them on.

TAZ

[Beastmaster]

Actually, I wouldn't mind a H2 SUT Slantback. It would match up with this:
http://24.248.84.138/sgyee/personalpics/H1_Slantback/slantback_shell_finish.jpg

That would be a killer pair!

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
First of all, Firm is a bigot. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Second, I'd love to have a slantback. Then I could pose as an H1. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[Dan]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by NJ H2:
http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/ga/ul/6441068401/inlineimg/Y/H2H-02s.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oooo, an air horn tank! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[VTSTOMPER]

I just cannot get into the slant back. However, if they made a cap like rear cover that matched the SUV...that I would get in to! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[timgco]

Once my H3 build is done, you can guys can use my SUT if you want. LOL, I am in Denver though.
I did find and install on this somewhere (I can't remember were though). Anyhow, they removed the plastic on the backside and attached where all the marker lights go and than to the bed rails. I know of three that were built and that they are were all custom according to that manufact. company in Canada. The hardest part would be to have rear window efroster elements and rear wiper to make it practical. If it were to snow or ice up, you would have no rearward visibility. I had a shop in Denver quote me $8500 to do it without the wiper/defroster and three weeks of my truck being tied up. I think even at $5K would be hard to market these. IT is something custom and at this point there are ZERO companies with plans to do this with such a limited market. I'm not sure on how many SUT's have been sold, but my guess is not enough to mass produce????

The CANBACK would be another cool option too. I think it would be way cheaper to make and more functional. Canvas, fittings and some AL. and your done. Again, that protoyype was never realized and could be easily.
Canback Thread (http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/5106011751/m/8641064441/r/6451085441#6451085441)

[Beastmaster]

Your rear view is practially destroyed anyways. With the rear tire carrier, and the reflectivity of two glass elements (the rear window AND the slanted glass of the hatch), you have literally zero view of the back.

Trust me on that one - Both Carey Harkness and I have really good experience with bad visibility and slantbacks. A wiper will help minimally, and a defroster element would make it impractical to take the slantback shell off and on.

If you were to make the shell weathertight AND insulated (for noise reduction and temp control), you could remove the midgate window to help.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by timgco:
Once my H3 build is done, you can guys can use my SUT if you want. LOL, I am in Denver though.
I did find and install on this somewhere (I can't remember were though). Anyhow, they removed the plastic on the backside and attached where all the marker lights go and than to the bed rails. I know of three that were built and that they are were all custom according to that manufact. company in Canada. The hardest part would be to have rear window efroster elements and rear wiper to make it practical. If it were to snow or ice up, you would have no rearward visibility. I had a shop in Denver quote me $8500 to do it without the wiper/defroster and three weeks of my truck being tied up. I think even at $5K would be hard to market these. IT is something custom and at this point there are ZERO companies with plans to do this with such a limited market. I'm not sure on how many SUT's have been sold, but my guess is not enough to mass produce????

The CANBACK would be another cool option too. I think it would be way cheaper to make and more functional. Canvas, fittings and some AL. and your done. Again, that protoyype was never realized and could be easily.
Canback Thread (http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/5106011751/m/8641064441/r/6451085441#6451085441) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[timgco]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Beastmaster:
Your rear view is practially destroyed anyways. With the rear tire carrier, and the reflectivity of two glass elements (the rear window AND the slanted glass of the hatch), you have literally zero view of the back.

Trust me on that one - Both Carey Harkness and I have really good experience with bad visibility and slantbacks. A wiper will help minimally, and a defroster element would make it impractical to take the slantback shell off and on.

If you were to make the shell weathertight AND insulated (for noise reduction and temp control), you could remove the midgate window to help.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by timgco:
Once my H3 build is done, you can guys can use my SUT if you want. LOL, I am in Denver though.
I did find and install on this somewhere (I can't remember were though). Anyhow, they removed the plastic on the backside and attached where all the marker lights go and than to the bed rails. I know of three that were built and that they are were all custom according to that manufact. company in Canada. The hardest part would be to have rear window efroster elements and rear wiper to make it practical. If it were to snow or ice up, you would have no rearward visibility. I had a shop in Denver quote me $8500 to do it without the wiper/defroster and three weeks of my truck being tied up. I think even at $5K would be hard to market these. IT is something custom and at this point there are ZERO companies with plans to do this with such a limited market. I'm not sure on how many SUT's have been sold, but my guess is not enough to mass produce????

The CANBACK would be another cool option too. I think it would be way cheaper to make and more functional. Canvas, fittings and some AL. and your done. Again, that protoyype was never realized and could be easily.
Canback Thread (http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/5106011751/m/8641064441/r/6451085441#6451085441) </div></BLOCKQUOTE> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hey, can you post a couple fo pics on your slantback and how it securs tiself to the truck? Also a couple pics of it opened?

[MotorsportsAuthority aka Dragon]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by firm:
looks like an aztec </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

sorry to those who like it, but i'll have to ditto this statement.

[KenP]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MotorsportsAuthority aka Dragon:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by firm:
looks like an aztec </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

sorry to those who like it, but i'll have to ditto this statement. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Go change a diaper. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ]

Dragon just does not like the look but, after or over the weekend when I get to go see Dragon jr. i will kick it arond. I know onething he can asimate the cost to do somehting as about as good as anyone i have known. But, I will get Him to look really at doing.

Would someone start a poll as to how many We have that would be interested in this if We did it. Once We figured the process Dragon wanted to use he can get the numbers real close and see if it can be done with a low enough price for others to wan to buy it but, they would all be hand built.
Dragon informed me We did get a chance to pick up with a plactics ijection molding company that We need for other projects so We may see what cod happen there.
Someone do a poll please. iwas to be at Mom's 1 1/2 hours ago and they will all be upset because of the illness i did not call etc.
I should mention that We would have to put a guy in full time to make these slants and demand would have to justify that.
So please do a poll for us.

Thanks
TAZ

[iwo jima]

Taz, your rig sounds sweet do you have pictures? Thanks

[NJ H2]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Beastmaster:
Your rear view is practially destroyed anyways. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You could always run a rear cam to a SAVV mirror or other monitor that constantly stays on for the rearview.

[HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ]

IWO JIMA
I'm hoping to have pics in Dec. or Jan. at the latest. Dragon and I are hiring professional photographer to take Pic of His Celica and MY H2. We have Mags wanting some to see before putting them in the mag. Our shop Boss is a bike freak and His motorcycle is looking like it will be in a mag. He was redoing His bike when We got wind that it may happen.
I do have what it looked like in the pic thread. I think it is under Rick's Stealth Gray
It will still look simialr but, Dragon and I just keep hearing from the shop Boss that I will like the paint job Dragon could tell You more on the mumbers but, paint and labor is most likely $10,000 and I could be way off either way. I just know they are not holding back on what is being done. Dragon is running the interior design and electronics with Our computer buddy David and there is not the most expensive stuff but, allot of sponsored items.
Infinity sponsored the full sound in their component system so We can show people how it sounds with all their product. Dragon has figured out how to get door chimes to work without having a speaker hooked to the Bose amp. WE have gone with a Infinity amp up front. So if anyone needs it i will be selling My complete Bose sytem and many other things. I'll put a list up on classified later.

TAZ

[VTSTOMPER]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by firm:
looks like an aztec </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


http://www.texasdar.com/images/katayama_green5.jpg

[VTSTOMPER]

http://www.texasdar.com/images/katayama_green3.jpg

[Beastmaster]

Sure. I wrote a writeup on it.

http://24.248.84.138/hummers/California_Gold_slantback/slantback_install.htm

There's a bunch of pics in the review.

-Steve

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by timgco:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Beastmaster:
Your rear view is practially destroyed anyways. With the rear tire carrier, and the reflectivity of two glass elements (the rear window AND the slanted glass of the hatch), you have literally zero view of the back.

Trust me on that one - Both Carey Harkness and I have really good experience with bad visibility and slantbacks. A wiper will help minimally, and a defroster element would make it impractical to take the slantback shell off and on.

If you were to make the shell weathertight AND insulated (for noise reduction and temp control), you could remove the midgate window to help.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hey, can you post a couple fo pics on your slantback and how it securs tiself to the truck? Also a couple pics of it opened? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>