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KB7TCV
02-21-2006, 11:25 PM
Just started ball rolling on new h3. will be here next week. Anyone able to help with certificate?? help is appreciated.
KB7TCV
02-21-2006, 11:25 PM
Just started ball rolling on new h3. will be here next week. Anyone able to help with certificate?? help is appreciated.
Mike E
02-21-2006, 11:35 PM
just sent you a PM.
Chaugar
02-21-2006, 11:41 PM
Anywone know what the difference is between the GMID (family or relative discount?) and the GM in my driveway discount is? I know that sounds funny, but it does exist. Even the manager at the local Hummer dealership laugh when I asked him. Called me back the next day and said yes, that they would honor it. My question is, which one is the bigger discount? I'm just glad to be able to get either. Thanks
fourfourto
02-21-2006, 11:49 PM
I got the GM what u talking about discount discount. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Ma\'Deuce
02-22-2006, 12:00 AM
I get the regular GM(GMS)discount, but i was wondering the same thing about the "in the driveway" discount. It seems you have to have a cert. of a retired hourly employee. do they have to be a family member? If not, anyone care to help out a H3 buyer?
Chaugar
02-22-2006, 12:48 AM
Ok. I used the Find button and there are previous discussions on the topic. There is alot of really good info by f5fstop. Thanks for the info guys. Chau
aggiehummer...er
02-22-2006, 01:42 AM
And just for the record, GMID price is below invoice on an H3, according the factory invoices of every H3 on our lot.
Chaugar
02-22-2006, 05:26 AM
How much lower? Depends on the specific vehicle? The GMS is below invoice for sure. GMS has to be below GMID. Man I love the idea of saving money. It's like free accessories! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
f5fstop
02-22-2006, 09:04 AM
Find a thread I did with great detail on the price differences between GMID and GMS. It showed sticker prices, GMID prices and it showed that GMID is about 1.8-2% above dealer invoice, while GMS is below dealer invoice.
The thread had links to local Hummer dealers with the GMID prices figured by Buy Power.com
Ma\'Deuce
02-22-2006, 10:08 AM
Dealer told me to find a retired hourly GM worker and have him/her sign for the "in the driveway" discount(GMID?) and I'll save another grand. I wonder if they have to be a family member? If not, anyone care to sign for me? you'll get a friend for life. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
WKMCD
02-22-2006, 11:26 AM
I saved over 4k with the GMID Certificate. The dealer wasn't making any deals on the car at time - Monday - and were really surprised when I pulled out the Certificate number.
KB7TCV
02-22-2006, 12:35 PM
Got the certificate. thanks to Mike E for the certificate. pics to be posted when i pick up my new H3
k9tim
02-22-2006, 03:27 PM
@KB7TCV
Nice to see yet another radio guy on here! You're gonna love the H3!!!
Mike E
02-22-2006, 06:37 PM
ENJOY!!!
See now I've been crazy confused on this too, I keep hearing that the "GID" that is given to someone is equal to approx 1% lower than dealer invoice. I found a GM employee willing to issue one to me, got the ID # and here is how it was broke down for the one I am trying to get...
MRSP $38,115.00
GMID Price $34,871.10
Dealer Invoice Price $34,424.00
So after all this hearing about and reading about the GIDs being lower than invoice I've been to two different local dealers and after giving them my GID number the price was always higher then invoice, NOT lower!?! The one above is $447.10 higher then invoice? Soooooo what am I missing? Is there more than one type of discount they are able to issue out? I have only seen or heard of two, GMS (actual GM employees and only good for actual employees) and these GID's that we all beg for! LOL
I was emailed this from an @gm.com address after the person agreed to issue one, it says..
GM in the Driveway authorization!
Congratulations on your decision to purchase or lease a new GM vehicle. In order to receive the discounted vehicle price from your selected
dealership, you will need to provide them with the authorization number listed below.
Authorization Number: xxxxxxx - GID
Relationship: PROSPECT
Expiration Date: 07/30/2006
Now a few of you just posted that you pulled out certificates and gave them? What is that all about? You were sent a physical certificate of some type? Just trying to find out the true deal with having a "GID" what it is actually worth or mean!?!?!?!?!?
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KJS:
See now I've been crazy confused on this too, I keep hearing that the "GID" that is given to someone is equal to approx 1% lower than dealer invoice. I found a GM employee willing to issue one to me, got the ID # and here is how it was broke down for the one I am trying to get...
MRSP $38,115.00
GMID Price $34,871.10
Dealer Invoice Price $34,424.00
So after all this hearing about and reading about the GIDs being lower than invoice I've been to two different local dealers and after giving them my GID number the price was always higher then invoice, NOT lower!?! The one above is $447.10 higher then invoice? Soooooo what am I missing? Is there more than one type of discount they are able to issue out? I have only seen or heard of two, GMS (actual GM employees and only good for actual employees) and these GID's that we all beg for! LOL
I was emailed this from an @gm.com address after the person agreed to issue one, it says..
GM in the Driveway authorization!
Congratulations on your decision to purchase or lease a new GM vehicle. In order to receive the discounted vehicle price from your selected
dealership, you will need to provide them with the authorization number listed below.
Authorization Number: xxxxxxx - GID
Relationship: PROSPECT
Expiration Date: 07/30/2006
Now a few of you just posted that you pulled out certificates and gave them? What is that all about? You were sent a physical certificate of some type? Just trying to find out the true deal with having a "GID" what it is actually worth or mean!?!?!?!?!? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
f5fstop already answered your question above.
Trust him. He knows what he is talking about. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Chaugar
02-22-2006, 10:15 PM
The way I understand it is the truth about it is infront of you. You got the GMID discount (slightly above invoice). The one below invoice is the GMS. The only way to get this is to work for GM or be a relative of someone who works there. This is what f5fstop has been saying all along. Still though, saving close to 4k is Great! whether it is 1% above or below. forget about trying to get more, use what you've got, it's better than nothing.
aggiehummer...er
02-22-2006, 10:19 PM
All I'm saying is that every H3 we currently have on the lot has a GMID/Supplier price lower than the factory invoice. I don't know what's different about our Hummers, but oh well.
f5fstop
02-22-2006, 10:34 PM
I'm not into marketing or finance, but I do know there are invoices and invoices. Just being logical, if GMS is the best discount you can get (which it is), it is only 1.8-2% below invoice, and from talking with my friends in Vehicle Administration (the group that handles these discounts), GMID is above invoice.
Can't say GM has not changed this in the last month since I ran all those price invoices, but I cannot understand why they would on a vehicle they cannot keep in stock.
I'm certainly not going to say that aggiehummer...er is incorrect, I'm just wondering which invoice. I do believe there is a difference between Factory invoice versus Dealer Invoice, but it may be just terminology. But there is still the confusion about the prices I posted from the online system for vehicles at Suburban Hummer, Troy MI.
Maybe I'll call the vehicle people again and have them explain this to me.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by f5fstop:
I'm not into marketing or finance, but I do know there are invoices and invoices. Just being logical, if GMS is the best discount you can get (which it is), it is only 1.8-2% below invoice, and from talking with my friends in Vehicle Administration (the group that handles these discounts), GMID is above invoice.
Can't say GM has not changed this in the last month since I ran all those price invoices, but I cannot understand why they would on a vehicle they cannot keep in stock.
I'm certainly not going to say that aggiehummer...er is incorrect, I'm just wondering which invoice. I do believe there is a difference between Factory invoice versus Dealer Invoice, but it may be just terminology. But there is still the confusion about the prices I posted from the online system for vehicles at Suburban Hummer, Troy MI.
Maybe I'll call the vehicle people again and have them explain this to me. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I have been searching trying to find the prev thread of yours that is mentioned above but coming up short, you have a link?
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by aggiehummer...er:
All I'm saying is that every H3 we currently have on the lot has a GMID/Supplier price lower than the factory invoice. I don't know what's different about our Hummers, but oh well. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Are you able to post a pic of an actual invoice? I have yet to see one, see the outline or break down would give some insight. Dealership wont even let me see the one for the H3 we are working on right now! That part was adding to my confusion with the whole is it over or under invoice for GID too! Guess my thoughts were if they are not letting me see then how do I know they are not full of sh!t, you know!? Why hide it http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chaugar:
whether it is 1% above or below. forget about trying to get more, use what you've got, it's better than nothing. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Better than nothing I agree, but you also have to look at 1-2% below VS 1-2% over could be $1000-1500 difference, which would equals $30/$40 month on the curt GMAC lease!
Chaugar
02-23-2006, 03:07 AM
Yeah, but just imagine all the people.....who didn't know about the GMID discount or couldn't get one. They had to just depend on their bargaining skills. And it's hard to bargain, when you want the vehicle and the dealer isn't budging.
TA8088
02-23-2006, 04:20 AM
In Oct. when I bought mine dealer would barely come down from MSRP after several days back and forth. Got ahold of a GMID certificate/number and walked back in with a set price. Mine stickered 39.5K and with the certificate I got for almost 4K less. I did get the dealer to throw in a couple of gas cards too.
I just purchased an H3 (http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/2671031121/m/2951016161) and absolutely love it (http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/2671031121/m/2951016161)! Wanted to put my 2 cents into this conversation (I am not sure it will bring you any clarity, but here it goes…).
The special GM in the Driveway (GMI) pricing is the same as the price our preferred suppliers pay. You can also combine the GID with other discounts to receive the maximum value! This offer is valid through September 30, 2006.
Any GM employee can get you the GID price. They need to use the online process to obtain GM in the Driveway authorization numbers.
The GID is not the same as GMS, but still a good deal. Hope to see more Hummers on the road in the next few months.
Chaugar
02-23-2006, 06:39 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">The special GM in the Driveway (GMI) pricing is the same as the price our preferred suppliers pay. You can also combine the GID with other discounts to receive the maximum value! This offer is valid through September 30, 2006. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Care to elaborate on the "other Discounts". What other discounts are there? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif To get the maximum value? Is there a way to add GMID + other discounts to = GMS discount? I am interested. Thanks
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">You can also combine the GID with other discounts to receive the maximum value! This offer is valid through September 30, 2006.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>
which offer is that? havent seen or heard of anything offered or even listed on the gm or hummer sites. please explain!
One example of “other discounts” would be the regional incentives. Click here (http://www.gm.com/automotive/vehicle_shopping/currentoffers/NC_Consumer_IOU.html) to see the current regional incentives. Unfortunately, there are no current Hummer H3 incentives, but keep checking back (updated at least one time a month—believe it is on the fifth of each month).
Another example is the DVD rear Entertainment System offering—$299 a smoking price anywhere!
Hope this helped.
Chaugar
02-23-2006, 02:12 PM
It does help. Thanks.
BigRob
02-23-2006, 05:54 PM
GMS is the employee discount. It is given to employees and immediate family.
GM IN THE DRIVEWAY (GMID) is the discount used for friends and family.
GMS is the bigger discount.
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"I have been searching trying to find the prev thread of yours that is mentioned above but coming up short, you have a link?
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Are you able to post a pic of an actual invoice? I have yet to see one, see the outline or break down would give some insight. Dealership wont even let me see the one for the H3 we are working on right now! That part was adding to my confusion with the whole is it over or under invoice for GID too! Guess my thoughts were if they are not letting me see then how do I know they are not full of sh!t, you know!? Why hide it"
f5fstop
02-26-2006, 11:03 PM
Re-post of a re-post of something I posted a few months ago.
GM Supplier Vehicle Purchase Program (SVPP) allows active employees of an eligible GM supplier to receive a discount that is approximately 2% above invoice.
GMID or GM In the Driveway, is a program GM started a year ago that allows any GM employee (salary or hourly) to obtain two authorization numbers per month for anyone to purchase a GM vehicle. The authorization number cannot be given to anyone who is eligible for the actual GM employee discount.
GM employees are eligible for two different types of discounts:
GM New Vehicle & Company-Owned Vehicle Purchase Programs (NVPP & COVPP)
The COVPP (Company Owned Vehicle Purchase Program) allows active, retired, employees on disability or approved absence (for a period of 12 months) to purchase a new GM driven company car at a large discount that depends on the mileage of the vehicle. (Good example is a few years ago, I purchased a 2003 Corvette with 2900 miles for 35K, and it had a sticker of about 49K.) Spouses and surviving spouses are also eligible for this program.
NVPP (New Vehicle Purchase Program...AKA GMS) allows GM employees, and the following sponsored family members: spouses, surviving spouses, children, siblings (including full/half and step), in-laws (father/mother/brother/sister) and grandchildren; to obtain a GM vehicle at approximately 2% below invoice.
One reason this is called GMS is years ago, GM offered GMO and GMS to their employees. GMO had a greater discount, but it had to be ordered; therefore, it was called GMO, "O" for ordered. The other program at that time was GMS, and it allowed GM employees to purchase a vehicle that was in dealer stock, but the discount was not as good as GMO. The "S" stood for Stock.
A few years ago, GM did away with the GMO and consolidated it what was called GMS.
Dealers and employees still refer to it as GMS, even though it is really known as NVPP.
Some people also started referring to the GM supplier discount as GMS, but that is really incorrect.
SVPP (supplier discount), GMID, and GMS are up to the dealer to accept. They can refuse to sell to anyone on these discounts since the do not make as big of a profit on these vehicles, and in some cases they have been paying floor plan interest on a vehicle a supplier or employee wants to purchase.
Some dealers will accept GMID or supplier discounts but not employee discounts since the dealer makes more money on the supplier and GMID than they do on the employee discount.
The company owned vehicle purchase program can be refused by a dealer too; however, a dealer is foolish to do so, since the dealer is never charged for the vehicle, and the dealer makes 5% of the MSRP for handling the transaction. All the dealer is required to do is pick the car up (if out of state, the employee has to pay the shipping charges), wash the vehicle, and hopefully, change the oil.
Now, are we all confused?
f5fstop, thanks! That clears up A LOT of things! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
Here is one more for you on this subject if you don't mind!? I have read on a few other sites that when a Dealership honors / accepts a GMID and sells the vehicle at the GMID price that they get reimbursed by GM for that deal since they had the potential of making a lot more on the vehicle if it were sold to someone that was not eligible for the discount. If this is true, can you post details on how that works? Is it a certain %, a flat $ amount, etc etc
Still around f5stop? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KJS:
f5fstop, thanks! That clears up A LOT of things! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
Here is one more for you on this subject if you don't mind!? I have read on a few other sites that when a Dealership honors / accepts a GMID and sells the vehicle at the GMID price that they get reimbursed by GM for that deal since they had the potential of making a lot more on the vehicle if it were sold to someone that was not eligible for the discount. If this is true, can you post details on how that works? Is it a certain %, a flat $ amount, etc etc </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
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