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sozdemir

11-08-2004, 10:19 PM

I am a Senior in Mechanical Engineering at Virginia Tech and am conducting a survey for a new breed of Hummer that GM is currently considering. This new Hummer will be larger than an ATV, but small then a Jeep. Please answer the following questions below, it would help GM and our design team greatly. Thanks
1.What do you like and dislike about your current Hummer?
2.What types of things could you do with a cheaper more capable Hummer?
3. How much would you pay *this new Hummer will cost around 10,000-25,000.
4. Do you use your Hummer to the fullest capabilities, if so how often?
5. What would you expect to see from this Hummer/ATV new breed coming?

Thank you for your time, we really appreciate it.

Virginia Tech Hummer 0.5 Design Team

sozdemir

11-08-2004, 10:19 PM

sozdemir

11-08-2004, 10:19 PM

PARAGON

11-08-2004, 10:33 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by sozdemir:
I am a Senior in Mechanical Engineering at Virginia Tech and am conducting a survey for a new bread of Hummer that GM is currently considering. This new Hummer will be larger then an ATV, but small then a Jeep. Please answer the following questions below, it would help GM and our design team greatly. Thanks!
1.What do you like and dislike about your current Hummer?
2.What types of things could you do with a cheaper more capable Hummer?
3. How much would you pay *this new Hummer will cost around 10,000-25,000.
4. Do you use your Hummer to the fullest capabilities, if so how often?
5. What would you expect to see from this Hummer/ATV new bread coming?

Thank you for your time, we really appreciate it.

Virginia Tech Hummer 0.5 Design Team <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>If you expect someone to respond to your "inquiry," if I was you, I would consider taking an English class and learning how to spell and write.

If you remotely had any credibility, you would at least not have misspelled "than" and "breed" incorrectly TWICE each. Sheesh! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

PARAGON

11-08-2004, 10:36 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by sozdemir:
What would you expect to see from this Hummer/ATV new bread coming? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>a Polaris Ranger 4x4

PARAGON

11-08-2004, 11:30 PM

licorice dispenser

RNF1968

11-09-2004, 12:02 AM

Come on! This guy is serious! How bout a built in porta-potty?!

Fever

11-09-2004, 12:15 AM

http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Beastmaster

11-09-2004, 01:14 AM

I think GM's been beat out - what you're looking for is commonly known as the Honda Element. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by sozdemir:
I am a Senior in Mechanical Engineering at Virginia Tech and am conducting a survey for a new bread of Hummer that GM is currently considering. This new Hummer will be larger then an ATV, but small then a Jeep. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Beastmaster

11-09-2004, 01:37 AM

While we are on this level of discussion:

Why is it that people would like to reinvent the wheel?

Tooling costs for a new vehicle is in the hundreds of millions of dollars. Even when parts bins are shared (like using an existing engine/tranny/transfer case combination), there are still costs involved that would require a minimum run of 40k vehicles per year for 3-4 years.

Secondly, I've rarely seen private sector industry using colleges to do their research. They pay millions of dollars to companies to do this type of entry level information gathering.

Third, I do find your spelling rather alarming for a ME. I know spell check is the norm nowadays, but as an engineer myself, I'm really worried about the type of engineers that are coming out of school.

DRTYFN

11-09-2004, 04:22 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by sozdemir:
I am a Senior in Mecha... blahblahblah blah blah blah. Blah blah lying through my rotten buttery teeth blah blah blah. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Please stop the madness. The only thing you engineer is how to fit a bigger gerbil tube up your monstrous rectum.

kacyk

11-09-2004, 04:49 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR> new bread of Hummer <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

'Bread' - 'Breed' WTF it does look like a loaf of bread I guess.

Your new design should primarily keep cadence with the personality of the current H1 and H2 owner:

1. Generally self centered
2. Opinionated
3. Mistaken to be rude (at times)
4. Eats red meat
5. Voted for the right President
6. And does not think the word "gay" is ambiguous http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Dan

11-09-2004, 10:54 AM

First Hummer shoes, then Hummer cologne, now Hummer bread? Is it low-carb?

Wow, I know for a fact that I would have got my ass chewed by my ME teachers back in school if I spelled "breed" (or any other basic word) wrong. I agree with Beast, scary if this is an example of the current grads.

I for one would like to see a large back seat, a condom dispenser, electrochromic windows, and a dim red interior light.

http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

devilsfan

11-09-2004, 11:38 AM

I would like something that is 100% off-road capable, gets 300 mpg, 0-60 in 3 secs with unlimited top speed, no chance of a rollover, with a rocket launcher! Whoo hoo!

Stacy

sozdemir

11-09-2004, 12:16 PM

Wow you guys are almost as bad as the Audi guys. By the way, sorry I can't spell, didn't really pay attention to it. But we just visited GM, saw the new hummers coming out in the next couple years, and they want us to come up with a concept similar to the Polaris 4x4, like one of you mentioned. Your guys input would really help out. Thanks again...

Dan

11-09-2004, 01:00 PM

Some more info would be of help:

Is it an open-air vehicle or closed?
Single operator or can it carry passengers?
If so, in what config? (F&R, side-by-side?)

Are you trying to reinvent one of these?:
http://www.off-road.com/atv/pilot/images/pilota.jpg

sozdemir

11-09-2004, 01:32 PM

That is the price range that GM is giving us. Hoping that you guys could narrow this range down for us. They basically just want us to come up with some ideas for a cheaper, more fuel efficient hummer type vehicle. So it's just in the workings, but we know that it's going to be AWD, 2 passenger (side by side), highway capable, between the size of an ATV and jeep, kind of like a Suzuki samurai on steroids, and fuel efficient. I was just hoping some of you guys could give us some more ideas of what this vehicle should have.

DRTYFN

11-09-2004, 02:34 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by sozdemir:
That is the price range that GM is giving us. Hoping that you guys could narrow this range down for us. They basically just want us to come up with some ideas for a cheaper, more fuel efficient hummer type vehicle. So it's just in the workings, but we know that it's going to be AWD, 2 passenger (side by side), highway capable, between the size of an ATV and jeep, kind of like a Suzuki samurai on steroids, and fuel efficient. I was just hoping some of you guys could give us some more ideas of what this vehicle should have. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just stop it. Stop bringing your fantasy world in here. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Queen Sheba

11-09-2004, 02:41 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by sozdemir:
That is the price range that GM is giving us. Hoping that you guys could narrow this range down for us. They basically just want us to come up with some ideas for a cheaper, more fuel efficient hummer type vehicle. So it's just in the workings, but we know that it's going to be AWD, 2 passenger (side by side), highway capable, between the size of an ATV and jeep, kind of like a Suzuki samurai on steroids, and fuel efficient. I was just hoping some of you guys could give us some more ideas of what this vehicle should have. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gifI think you should understand that this is a rough crowd in here, and you are treading on unfamiliar territory. Maybe you should contact GM and have them do a survey. They seem to be pretty good at doing surveys.

CLAYDOG

11-09-2004, 02:44 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by sozdemir:
Wow you guys are almost as bad as the Audi guys. By the way, sorry I can't spell, didn't really pay attention to it. But we just visited GM, saw the new hummers coming out in the next couple years, and they want us to come up with a concept similar to the Polaris 4x4, like one of you mentioned. Your guys input would really help out. Thanks again... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just curious on where you saw the “new” hummers at GM and who your contacts are before I call BS on ya. If you are on the level I'll know, (or find out) and say so, then you might get some more cooperation.

sozdemir

11-09-2004, 02:50 PM

Yeah, this obviously isn't going to work. Viva la hummer soccer moms... Thanks anyways

sozdemir

11-09-2004, 02:54 PM

My contacts are at GM are Clay Dean, currently works on the Hummer, also there with Mike Copeland, Advanced Vehicle Intergration. This is for the team partnership program called "PACE", and we are also working with BYU. Look them up, ask them, since your at the level you know.

PARAGON

11-09-2004, 03:01 PM

Claydog, I was hoping you would pop in.

sozdemir

11-09-2004, 03:16 PM

sorry it's just frustrating. Didn't mean to take any of your guys time or make it a big deal. I understand... I'm a regular on the Audi forum and see people messed with all that time. I didn't mean to say the H2 was a soccer mom car, it's capabilities are almost that of the H1, and it is a very capable vehicle. But it would really be big help to us if you just gave like two or three things you would want in this bull**** senior design project. I am not saying that our concept will be the next hummer or anything. BYU is building a full-scale model, and we are just doing the model on the computer.

PARAGON

11-09-2004, 03:17 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by sozdemir:
Yeah, this obviously isn't going to work. Viva la hummer soccer moms... Thanks anyways <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Nice, Sean. First you come in here asking for a favor but don't worry with little things like spelling correctly or even attempting to seem legit. Now you want to insult us with a passing comment.

sozdemir

11-09-2004, 03:57 PM

thanks Seth

CLAYDOG

11-09-2004, 04:39 PM

He looks legit guys, if I find out different I’ll let you know. Your honest in put would certainly help him out

HMMWV

11-09-2004, 04:57 PM

Are you trying to make something like the ford ex concept?

sozdemir

11-09-2004, 05:00 PM

I believe that we are going to use independent on all four corners. I know that solid axles are better for off roading, but they are heavy. We want it to be light weight and fuel efficient, because the current hummers are gas guzzlers, and aren't exactly "green" vehicles. We haven't decided on a power plant, but diesel may be too heavy. Possibly a gasoline hybrid will be used. I'm on the suspension team, but any input on the whole vehicle will help tremendously. Our group did come up with a number in a meeting at GM in terms of price ($12,000), but we really have no data to support that.

sozdemir

11-09-2004, 05:04 PM

EXACTLY, just like the Ford EX, just with the Hummer look, and great name. YOU NAILED IT. Use of hydroforming, exposed engine and very capable. <pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre"> http://www.seriouswheels.com/def/Ford-EX-Concept-Vehicle-Front-1280x960.htm </pre>

Queen Sheba

11-09-2004, 05:12 PM

I know that this is going to sound "soccor momish" but how about incorporating some side airbags. Not a big shifter and make the transmission a manual transmission. AND please do not use a 4 cylinder, stick with a inline 6.

sozdemir

11-09-2004, 05:23 PM

Can someone put that Ford EX picture in?? that would really help.

sozdemir

11-09-2004, 05:38 PM

tight that's exactly what GM wanted us to explore.Removable fenders, bolt in windshield, hydroforming, exposed parts. Overall looks like a lot of fun, and without the worry of messing up a 50,000-60,000 dollar hummer. Anything wrong with this Ford EX?

PARAGON

11-09-2004, 05:59 PM

Needs to have a mid-engine design. The EX's steering linkage is exposed, not behind some under carriage protection.

A continuously variable transmission, preferably gear driven, not belt.

DRTYFN

11-09-2004, 06:07 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by sozdemir:
Yeah, this obviously isn't going to work. Viva la hummer soccer moms... Thanks anyways <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> You might as well pack it in. That comment cost you any credibility you might have ever been able to earn in here.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by sozdemir:
sorry it's just frustrating. Didn't mean to take any of your guys time or make it a big deal. I understand... I'm a regular on the Audi forum and see people messed with all that time. I didn't mean to say the H2 was a soccer mom car, <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You knew this and yet you still made the ****ed up comments?!!

I still think this nitwit is jerking everybody off. If he is legitimate then his bosses should get their heads knocked together for letting this idiot out in public.

HMMWV

11-09-2004, 07:08 PM

Just how offroad capable is the FX? From what I understand, correct me if I'm wrong, its only good in sand.

If GM actually wants to make a somewhat capable rock crawler, mud bogger, etc like vehicle that you can drive on the highway then fine go ahead with it.

BUT if this thing is only going to look tough thats only as capable as the FX then don't.

For me HUMMER is about OFF Roading and off road ONLY. Not exclusivity, cool looks, luxury and other ****. If their smaller H4, H5, H983498438 are offroad capable make it, if not then don't. Please pass that onto GM.

sozdemir

11-10-2004, 05:36 AM

thanks for all your help guys, got a good place to start.

Tully

03-25-2005, 09:32 PM

If Hummer were to come out w/ an ATV, i'd buy it...being most of the H2 people seem to be offroad types, would make sense to have a matching 'mini-rig' http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Dug

03-26-2005, 12:34 AM

Tully heres your hummer atv. These are two examples, I am building some to sell , they are two wheel drive go anywhere as long as you can hold on bikes. They are stainless steel frames and 7 hp. Subaru engines, $4500. Want one?

Dug

03-26-2005, 12:36 AM

heres the pic i meant.

Tully

03-26-2005, 01:13 AM

very tempting...I'll go 4x4 before i go 2w http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif sorry ( call me a pansy http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif )

Dug

03-26-2005, 01:20 AM

I can go three wheels?

Dug

03-26-2005, 01:21 AM

Dug

03-26-2005, 01:22 AM

These bikes are a chick magnet.

HUMMERDOGG

03-26-2005, 01:57 AM

Take the Ford EX frame and stick on the body of the Ford Bronco SUV Concept, give it the Hummer H1 body lines, grill and bumpers and you are golden... Make sure the back cap and roof is removable so you can go open or have a soft top and bikini top that you can put on. Make the doors interchangeable with a set of half doors that come with it. Make the interior washable with a hose. Front and rear steering. Winch on the front. Windshield removable. Plenty of storage in the rear with tiedowns, nets, etc... Rear mounted spare tire carrier. Brushguard up front with rock rails and underbody protection...

tower

03-26-2005, 03:19 AM

What about this thing?

tower

03-26-2005, 03:21 AM

Wish I knew the name of this thing.

tower

03-26-2005, 03:22 AM

I just can't remember what they called this thing.

ROX

03-26-2005, 03:45 AM

What about one of these? The Polaris, not the H1! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

tower

03-26-2005, 03:46 AM

Grat for the days off. Fore!

HUMMERDOGG

03-26-2005, 04:35 AM

Tower-

To address your question... Piece-o-Sheiit...

finbox

03-27-2005, 01:26 AM

POS is right!!

"My VW is SO reliable!!!....could you hand me that wrench please"

tower

03-27-2005, 01:51 AM

Huh? I thought the P.O.S. was attached to the toilet in fever's photo on page 1 of this thread. I know 'cause I once owned one.

BigEagle

03-27-2005, 10:31 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tower:
Wish I knew the name of this thing. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

This is an VW 181 build in Germany in the end of
the 60's. It was also called as Kuebelwagen.
It was a very cheap version vor the Military.

http://www.181-berlin.de/start.html

Greetings

Dirk