New Rear Bumper and Front Brushguard

[Detonate]

Love them or hate them, here they are...

New brushguard just installed.
http://www.redreefadventures.com/forum/bumper/01.jpg
This thing is solid as a rock and fits perfectly into place. I'm very happy with the way this turned out. Still debating on whether or not to add the lights to the front...

Side view.
http://www.redreefadventures.com/forum/bumper/02.jpg
Here you can see how it secures down. The nuts on the U-Bolt control how tightly it sits, and the plastic rest gives just enough to make it sit extremely firm into place. It doesn't move an inch no matter how hard you shake it!

Rear Bumper Side View
http://www.redreefadventures.com/forum/bumper/03.jpg
Yeah, I ended up with the corner guards. They started to grow on me after I initially saw them. Kinda like how I didn't like the Chevy Avalanche when I first saw it either. Again, this thing is TOUGH! There is no movement at all in the corner guards.

Another Rear view
http://www.redreefadventures.com/forum/bumper/04.jpg
Notice the plastic sticking out between the bumper and the tire. That actually will be trimmed down. So while this isn't exactly a "bolt on" addition, it does in theory give you a better departure angle in the right circumstances. As that whole space would be be where the bumper was stock. You do also have to trim the stock fender flares slightly. I'll explain below.

Closer rear shot
http://www.redreefadventures.com/forum/bumper/05.jpg
You can see here that the bumper actually wraps slightly around the body. This is why the fenders have to be trimmed slightly, but in return you get a lot of body protection on the rear 1/2 that wouldn't have been there otherwise.

Another rear shot
http://www.redreefadventures.com/forum/bumper/06.jpg
The fit is perfect. I had to call Jim in Oregon because I just didn't think it was going to fit. Sure enough once I got it perfectly into place everything lined up milimeters into place.

Part of the problem lining it up was that I did the install myself, which must have looked hilarious to anyone walking by. The rear bumper weighs considerably more than front bumper does, even with the winch installed. And to make it worse, most of the weight is in the corner guards making it weird to hold solo from the center.

First I tried just lifting one side and setting it on the hitch, but as mentioned, the thing is meant to fit perfectly on the H2, and has to be pretty much lined up, and slid on horizontally.

I ended up taking a ratcheting tie down from the top of one corner guard to the other and then putting it on my back so I could support the weight with my back, and have both hands free to slide it into place. Amazingly enough I got it on with no damage to my truck, or my body! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[Detonate]

Love them or hate them, here they are...

New brushguard just installed.
http://www.redreefadventures.com/forum/bumper/01.jpg
This thing is solid as a rock and fits perfectly into place. I'm very happy with the way this turned out. Still debating on whether or not to add the lights to the front...

Side view.
http://www.redreefadventures.com/forum/bumper/02.jpg
Here you can see how it secures down. The nuts on the U-Bolt control how tightly it sits, and the plastic rest gives just enough to make it sit extremely firm into place. It doesn't move an inch no matter how hard you shake it!

Rear Bumper Side View
http://www.redreefadventures.com/forum/bumper/03.jpg
Yeah, I ended up with the corner guards. They started to grow on me after I initially saw them. Kinda like how I didn't like the Chevy Avalanche when I first saw it either. Again, this thing is TOUGH! There is no movement at all in the corner guards.

Another Rear view
http://www.redreefadventures.com/forum/bumper/04.jpg
Notice the plastic sticking out between the bumper and the tire. That actually will be trimmed down. So while this isn't exactly a "bolt on" addition, it does in theory give you a better departure angle in the right circumstances. As that whole space would be be where the bumper was stock. You do also have to trim the stock fender flares slightly. I'll explain below.

Closer rear shot
http://www.redreefadventures.com/forum/bumper/05.jpg
You can see here that the bumper actually wraps slightly around the body. This is why the fenders have to be trimmed slightly, but in return you get a lot of body protection on the rear 1/2 that wouldn't have been there otherwise.

Another rear shot
http://www.redreefadventures.com/forum/bumper/06.jpg
The fit is perfect. I had to call Jim in Oregon because I just didn't think it was going to fit. Sure enough once I got it perfectly into place everything lined up milimeters into place.

Part of the problem lining it up was that I did the install myself, which must have looked hilarious to anyone walking by. The rear bumper weighs considerably more than front bumper does, even with the winch installed. And to make it worse, most of the weight is in the corner guards making it weird to hold solo from the center.

First I tried just lifting one side and setting it on the hitch, but as mentioned, the thing is meant to fit perfectly on the H2, and has to be pretty much lined up, and slid on horizontally.

I ended up taking a ratcheting tie down from the top of one corner guard to the other and then putting it on my back so I could support the weight with my back, and have both hands free to slide it into place. Amazingly enough I got it on with no damage to my truck, or my body! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[Detonate]

Love them or hate them, here they are...

New brushguard just installed.
http://www.redreefadventures.com/forum/bumper/01.jpg
This thing is solid as a rock and fits perfectly into place. I'm very happy with the way this turned out. Still debating on whether or not to add the lights to the front...

Side view.
http://www.redreefadventures.com/forum/bumper/02.jpg
Here you can see how it secures down. The nuts on the U-Bolt control how tightly it sits, and the plastic rest gives just enough to make it sit extremely firm into place. It doesn't move an inch no matter how hard you shake it!

Rear Bumper Side View
http://www.redreefadventures.com/forum/bumper/03.jpg
Yeah, I ended up with the corner guards. They started to grow on me after I initially saw them. Kinda like how I didn't like the Chevy Avalanche when I first saw it either. Again, this thing is TOUGH! There is no movement at all in the corner guards.

Another Rear view
http://www.redreefadventures.com/forum/bumper/04.jpg
Notice the plastic sticking out between the bumper and the tire. That actually will be trimmed down. So while this isn't exactly a "bolt on" addition, it does in theory give you a better departure angle in the right circumstances. As that whole space would be be where the bumper was stock. You do also have to trim the stock fender flares slightly. I'll explain below.

Closer rear shot
http://www.redreefadventures.com/forum/bumper/05.jpg
You can see here that the bumper actually wraps slightly around the body. This is why the fenders have to be trimmed slightly, but in return you get a lot of body protection on the rear 1/2 that wouldn't have been there otherwise.

Another rear shot
http://www.redreefadventures.com/forum/bumper/06.jpg
The fit is perfect. I had to call Jim in Oregon because I just didn't think it was going to fit. Sure enough once I got it perfectly into place everything lined up milimeters into place.

Part of the problem lining it up was that I did the install myself, which must have looked hilarious to anyone walking by. The rear bumper weighs considerably more than front bumper does, even with the winch installed. And to make it worse, most of the weight is in the corner guards making it weird to hold solo from the center.

First I tried just lifting one side and setting it on the hitch, but as mentioned, the thing is meant to fit perfectly on the H2, and has to be pretty much lined up, and slid on horizontally.

I ended up taking a ratcheting tie down from the top of one corner guard to the other and then putting it on my back so I could support the weight with my back, and have both hands free to slide it into place. Amazingly enough I got it on with no damage to my truck, or my body! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[DRTYFN]

Why didn't you at least get it in black?

[johnnyrako]

It's not horrible but I think black would be better. Also, what's up with the clamps? It looks like you are getting ready to weld or something. I don't care for those at all. It's not a bad looking guard.

[Spike]

Jim,
How much does all that stuff weigh? Also I agree with the others, I think black would have been the move.

[Detonate]

The freight company had the Rear Bumper, Front Brushguard, some lights, hardware, and all the rugs they had wrapped it in weighing 395 lbs.

The front bumper is pretty light. I would say it was about 100 lbs by itself.

Everything is much lighter than the old stuff I had. This was very evident when I swapped out the front and I then went back and took a few turns back off my torsion bars as it looked to ride up in the front.

I get the "it would look better in black" comment all the time. Probably right, but it's too late for that. Maybe after I've beaten it so badly that spray paint can no longer cover up the scars I'll have it redone in Black.

But I'm still not done with it. I plan on getting the lower black trim color matched and a partial wrap on the lower 1/2 in that same color with some graphics and designs on it.

I always liked the looks of the Red/Grey 2 tone Sierra pick ups, so I figured this would look pretty cool 2 tone as well. Just haven't got that far yet.

[PARAGON]

I still don't get it. Definitely not my taste.

[TonkaH2]

Nice work, Jim -yet another use for a tiedown strap. Now you can go practice running into things...

I've complained about the clamps too, and they're working on moving them inboard [if the freakin' handles were black at least they wouldn't be so noticable].

And, hey, glad YOU like the silver... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Detonate]

This being the 3rd Heavy Duty Brushguard I've owned, and the 4th clamping system I've used....

I think it's by far the best.

The SMA one I had used T-Pins up front. These worked out OK, and looked pretty cool, but the biggest problem with them was they didn't secure the brushguard well enough, it still had movement. In addition the pins were sometimes a pain to get in, and since you have to drill the pin holes, they started to rust over time.

We tired 2 different clamping systems with the Tough Country guard. They hold the guard down nice and tight, but there were problems with the strength of the clamps, and we had a few bend on us. They were also a bit difficult to engage and release when properly set to hold the guard in place.

The ones on the RA setup, while not the most attractive option, by far is the most functional. It holds the guard down nice and tight, and is easy to engage and disengage, since nothing was drilled, nothing will rust.

[Spike]

Jim,
I would have bet the farm that stuff was heavier than that. It looks like it weighs a ton. Just a thought on the paint, if you beat them up too bad where they need repainting you should consider painting them with that black Duplicolor spray on bedliner paint that PhilD used to paint his U steps. I like the texture.
http://elcova.com/groupee/forums?a=tpc&s=2826088551&f=6706011751&m=133106684&r=813105194#813105194
That would probably look awesome.

[TonkaH2]

The clamps work great, just need to be less obtrusive -although the Hummer mechanics all liked them just fine [I think they just want something that won't break].

I did check all the other guards out too and agree, well, obviously, as I paid dearly to get one. And although I don't really love the look of the corner protectors, it's the only way to support the weight of the truck. [They'll look much better when they're all scratched up.] Now if they'll make something for the TOP corners...

[Detonate]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Spike:
Jim,
I would have bet the farm that stuff was heavier than that. It looks like it weighs a ton. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yeah, I would have thought it as well. The steel used is thinner than that of my Tough Country stuff, but it is gusseted in such a manner that it is actually stronger. You'd be amazed at how light the front is. The rear is much heavier, and you can see that it is renforced much more than the front front end, with several layers of steel, and lots of gusets. I suspect that it is because the entire bumper is supported by the 4 bolts from the rear recovery points, and the corner guards are designed to withstand the weight of the vehicle.

The front bumper is so light that I began to think it would buckle if I hit it to hard. I disproved that theory many times over at Katemcy this weekend.

I wish I would have taken some pictures of the inside of the rear bumper before mounting it.

Oh yeah, the brush guard is pretty light as well. I was able to hold it up with one arm while securing the bolts.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Just a thought on the paint, if you beat them up too bad where they need repainting you should consider painting them with that black Duplicolor spray on bedliner paint that PhilD used to paint his U steps. I like the texture.
http://elcova.com/groupee/forums?a=tpc&s=2826088551&f=6706011751&m=133106684&r=813105194#813105194
That would probably look awesome. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I think I've decided that when the time comes, I'll probably find out whatever powder GOBI uses on their racks and use that. It is the closest finsih I've seen that seems to match the trim. It's only semi-glossy, and I like that. Then I'd probably get some of that paint you are talking about to do touch ups.

[alecs wife]

Jim, your setup looks great. I also like the silver & maroon combination you chose. Your truck is turning out great. I look forward to some field reports on the side supports.

I agree on the brush guard. It is the first guard on the market truly designed to take a beating. I had a 250lb guy stand on mine when it was open. Solid as a rock!!

Road Armor is building tough quality products that truly support the DNA of the H2. They truly say and depict off-road.

[DRTYFN]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by R2:
Road Armor is building tough quality products that truly support the DNA of the H2. They truly say and depict off-road. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Did you just type that with a mouth full of RA flute yogurt?

[HummerH2]

This guy bought the same bumber except in black.http://elcova.com/groupee/forums?a=tpc&s=2826088551&f=6706011751&m=189105836

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by R2:
Road Armor is building tough quality products that truly support the DNA of the H2. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Yeah, right.....if you think the DNA of the H2 lies within rednecks.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by R2:
They truly say and depict off-road. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Exactly what purpose do the serve off-road. If you feel you need something like that for protection off-road, you are going to end up with a lot more things broken than those protect.

[Detonate]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PARAGON:
Exactly what purpose do the serve off-road. If you feel you need something like that for protection off-road, you are going to end up with a lot more things broken than those protect. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Nah... Nobody could possibly get damage in that area during the course of normal mild off roading.... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

http://ares.hardocp.com/files/hummer/ouch10-640.jpg

http://ares.hardocp.com/files/hummer/ouch1-640.jpg

http://ares.hardocp.com/files/hummer/ouch2-640.jpg

[FrgMstr]

Hey! I resemble that remark. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Yeah, the expensive part of that ride was that rear corner. Doors were cheap to fix....

[alecs wife]

Those side guards are going to be very helpful in heavily wooded areas. I have similar dents on my truck that could have been obverted with the guards.

I truly look forward to testing them out.

[Kevin B]

What are the chances of a stick or something hitting the "latch" and popping the brush gard open causing the grill cover to fall? Is there a latch on both sides? In pic #2 right above the liscense plate holder (I think) the tubing seems to be open. Is that a rain gauge http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif,JK but its hard to tell what that is.

Is the slot in the rear bumper right above reciever for the fairlead?

[Detonate]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by N2ITNSD:
What are the chances of a stick or something hitting the "latch" and popping the brush gard open causing the grill cover to fall? Is there a latch on both sides? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
There is a latch on both sides. Even with both latches open, the brushguard is not dead weight, you still have to pull it down.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>In pic #2 right above the liscense plate holder (I think) the tubing seems to be open. Is that a rain gauge http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif,JK but its hard to tell what that is. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I guess I don't know what you are talking about....

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Is the slot in the rear bumper right above reciever for the fairlead? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>There is a plate that goes over it with graphics cut out. I think you mount an LED Brake light behind it to light up the graphics when you stop.

[Hummer Man]

It needs to be BLACK!!!!!!!

[Kevin B]

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In pic #2 right above the liscense plate holder (I think) the tubing seems to be open. Is that a rain gauge ,JK but its hard to tell what that is.
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I guess I don't know what you are talking about....

This is what I am talking about. Note the raging graphics http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

[Insaniac]

Detonate,
Finished yet?....Can we see? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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[timgco]

Det, that looks nice!
Did you have any problems with the TL guards and the Gobi ladder touching?

[drmiles]

Hey, why can't I see the photos????

[Detonate]

The photo's on the first page have been taken off of my webserver, that's why you can't see them. If you are talking about the photo's on this page, then I'm not sure why.

Tim, nothing touches. The corner guards allow the rear access to open with no problems, and the ladder does not extend any further than the door.

[Longhorn]

Looks good. I like that the gray went away. Time for tires and its complete. Honestly, these things are never complete but your damn close.

Do you have Barnwell plans any time soon?

[devilsfan]

Very nice!!! Much better in the black!!!

Why are you still running stock tires?? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Stacy

[Insaniac]

"Looks good", http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
it looks like you covered over the powder coating with sprayed on bed liner.
Is that better than paint?

[Detonate]

I looked into having it powder coated again, but the fact is that powder coating rubs off very easy on the rocks, and you end up having to spray paint over the gashes, which rarely matches.

It looks OK, at first glance.

If this stuff rubs off, I can touch it up with the same stuff I used to coat it with in the first place.

I still have stock tires, because the MT/R's I had are worn down to nothing. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

I may get new tires someday, but for now I'm happy with the stock tires.

[DRTYFN]

It's about time you got tired of the two tone theme. Looks much better.

It takes more than some rubbing to take off powder-coating. But you can always rattle can it to touch it up. The problem with bed liner is that it gouges AND tears. And if you hit it while it's cold it has the potential to break or shatter. Hopefully you had your bumpers primered before the bed liner went on, other wise if you get a gouge or tear you'll be susceptible to separation from the bumper. I've been there and done that.
Again, it does look much better.

[KenP]

Very nice. It looks much better than before. Congrats. Now paint the truck... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[cougar2]

Det. ,, I'm getting ready to add a Gobi rack ... trying to decide whether to go with the 2" mounting brackets or the 4". Your rear shots on page one of this topic post did not load. There is only one partial rear shot on page two that loaded. Do you have any more complete full rear shots of your truck with a good view of your truck and Gobi rack. Much appreciated !!

[cougar2]

Det. ,, also - now that you have had them for a while ~ how do you like your Road Armor front and rear bumpers ??
Thanks again !

[DRTYFN]

Det can't hear you. He's gone bye-bye. And so has his H2. Last we heard he had swapped off his RA bumpers for something else.

[cougar2]

DRT. ,, Thanks for the update ~

[alecs wife]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DRTYFN:
Det can't hear you. He's gone bye-bye. And so has his H2. Last we heard he had swapped off his RA bumpers for something else. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why has he gone BYe-BYe? Did your S&B Boss kick him off the sight? Did he swap out his RA for the production version of the "Super Duper" bumper you were developing?

[timgco]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by cougar2:
DRT. ,, Thanks for the update ~ <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Check your PM.

[DRTYFN]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by R2:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DRTYFN:
Det can't hear you. He's gone bye-bye. And so has his H2. Last we heard he had swapped off his RA bumpers for something else. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why has he gone BYe-BYe? Did your S&B Boss kick him off the sight? Did he swap out his RA for the production version of the "Super Duper" bumper you were developing? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You're statement doesn't make much sense since I'm the "boss" of that non-existing society.

Since your reading comprehension is so low I'll help you out a little bit(ok, a lot).
When I said that "He's gone bye-bye" that meant that he's no longer on this site. I thought that was pretty simple, but maybe it flew right over your flat head. In the very next sentence when I said "And so has his H2" that was supposed to allude to the fact that Det has sold his H2.

I know you're getting pissy because you think I'm "dissing" your RA bumper, but if you read very carefully you'll see that all I did was say that "he swapped off his RA bumpers for something else". I didn't call anything a POS or laugh about how fugly they are(IMO). I simply stated the facts without any personal opinion.
Now if you've got some sand in your panties and it's chafing your vagina I suggest you go wash it off, rub some soothing aloe vera on it and calm down.

If you're missing Det so much I can post some links to some non-Hummer forums that he belongs to. He's still an anti-social grumpy ****er. Kind of makes me feel less special that he's like that with everybody. I thought I was the only one that could rile him up.


http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif ... R2, just in case you don't get the rolling eyes that means I think this is really really lame.

[cougar2]

Partsguy ,, check your PM !