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Rhyno

10-23-2003, 03:38 AM

If you break your tierod and CV joint well offroading should it be covered under warrenty? It was my second time offroading in my H2 and I went too see how much articulation I had, I drove up a hill sideways and BANG the tierod and CV broke. What do you guys think.

Rhyno

10-23-2003, 03:38 AM

DRTYFN

10-23-2003, 05:53 AM

What do you mean "you drove up a hill sideways and bang the tie rod and CV broke"?
Exactly what did you do and how fast did you do it?

DennisAJC

10-23-2003, 06:30 AM

Hold yer horses Drty. He's a Fellow Canadian.
Very hard to find. Even harder if you scare him away. Easy....easy....

Rhyno,
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1BADH2

10-23-2003, 11:10 AM

If you spend $50k plus on a truck that was made to offroad everything should be covered.

Buckeye Hummer

10-23-2003, 12:48 PM

They won't cover it. Most dealers/GM will consider it off-road abuse so I would not count on it. There is an outside possibility the dealer will try to take care of it for you but I doubt it.

Been there done that.

Centerfire

10-23-2003, 01:10 PM

Ok.. small question.. If you break your stuff off road.. WHy tell them... " Well officer I was driving down the road felt a major bump then my car wouldn't go no more1. Off road, are you kidding this thing costs more then $50K do you think I would be crazy enough to take it off the road?' Shot in the dark.. or turn into Insurance because a Deer ran out in front of you and when you ran over it it broke your stuff.. Animal attacks on vec are a Comp. Loss , not a collison loss. Just a thought.

Mike

Buckeye Hummer

10-23-2003, 01:16 PM

You can give that a shot but I know GM requires they send the damaged part back at which time they will determine if it was off road damage or regular use. I really doubt anyone will break a tie rod on the pavement.

crash

10-23-2003, 01:47 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Buckeye Hummer:
You can give that a shot but I know GM requires they send the damaged part back at which time they will determine if it was off road damage or regular use. I really doubt anyone will break a tie rod on the pavement.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It boils down to this guys, how you aproach the situation. Depending on how the rig looks, will determin how you can get it covered, like as in does it look like It was wheeled. Only a very SMALL portion of parts are sent back, and that has no bearing to it being covered, since all that happens after the fact, after the repair has been made. Now, if it was failed, and the dealer covers it, and it gets sent back, and GM frowns on the repair, the dealer is dinged the $$ back to gm..

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Circuitguy

10-23-2003, 02:10 PM

You’re only doing what they do in the H2 commercials. Right? Then it should be covered! BIG-C

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crash

10-23-2003, 02:37 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>

That's why I didn’t bother fighting for warrantee for my damage. The underneath of my H2 looks like DirtyFun’s picture after Rubicon. Unless the dealer is a friend you really don’t have much of an argument. The problem is going forward; if something happens on the road now they are going to argue that it was damaged off road and just happened to finally break on road. I treated my dealer fairly and built a relationship with the service writer so I think and hope they will be fair with me. They have no problem with warrantee on interior/exterior, engine, etc. We will just have to work through anything that happens to the drive line, suspension, steering, etc. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think thats the biggest thing you can do, build that relationship, I see it here all the time...
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>

Wheeling is not a free hobby.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Man you don't want me to start on that subject,lol.

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DennisAJC

10-23-2003, 03:55 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>I went too see how much articulation I had, I drove up a hill sideways and BANG the tierod and CV broke. What do you guys think.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

How steep was that hill?
Did it break during the roll over?
Didn't you just recently change to bigger tires???

There's only 1 dealership here in B.C. and they haven't had a report of your incident. Give us some more details. Your vague insinuation that a hill will cause a tierod to break sounds fishy.

"A Picture Is Worth A Thousand Words."

crash

10-23-2003, 04:12 PM

every time I see that, it just spoks me.. I can handle alot of stuff, but the sheer drop offs is what gets me... I can't even walk to a ledge without getting a little "nervouse"

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DennisAJC

10-23-2003, 04:17 PM

Alec,

Just lookin at those photos makes my heart skip a beat. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif If you're gonna take that beehotch, one word......VIDEO!

That was on Real TV when that Ford Bronco lost brake hydrolics, and went crashing down the side with his girlfriend. They were OK but what a fall!

"A Picture Is Worth A Thousand Words."

crash

10-23-2003, 04:33 PM

no no no, that wasn't a ferd, that was a wonderful Gm made(american, oh ya) k-5 blazer, with a girl driving too, wow! I have watched that clip over and over, and she hit the one spot of sand, talk about lucky.. Granted, i think that whole deal could have been different if the reaction was different. How about that SUV that fell off the back side, nobody died in that one either..

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Cranky Steve

10-23-2003, 04:40 PM

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DennisAJC

10-23-2003, 04:45 PM

NO MORE PICS!!!!!!

My feet are tingling!

"A Picture Is Worth A Thousand Words."

crash

10-23-2003, 04:45 PM

Now that accident was PURE stupidity, they are soo lucky..

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crash

10-23-2003, 04:47 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by DennisAJC:
NO MORE PICS!!!!!!

My feet are tingling!

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I would look under your desk to make sure thats why http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

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DennisAJC

10-23-2003, 04:47 PM

WTF was that guy doing????? What's the story?

"A Picture Is Worth A Thousand Words."

DennisAJC

10-23-2003, 04:48 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by crash:

I would look under your desk to make sure thats why http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

certified H2 tech.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

LOL, Damn secretary http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif.

"A Picture Is Worth A Thousand Words."

crash

10-23-2003, 04:50 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by DennisAJC:
WTF was that guy doing????? What's the story?

QUOTE]

As I understand it dennis, they were in the wrong, they headed up when they should have waited, tried to get out of the way, the front unloaded causing it to go over, and over, and over...

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DennisAJC

10-23-2003, 04:51 PM

crash

10-23-2003, 04:51 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Alec W:
I don't _think_ I have the balls all of the sudden!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I have a couple of buddies who have done it, and its PURE adrenelin(sp).... Butt..... I have no balls, I have no balls,lol..

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Rhyno

10-24-2003, 01:28 AM

WOW 26 replies! Well to give you guys some more info, I had just started wheeling and about five minutes in I decided I wanted to see how my H2 articulated. I was on a road that had dirt banks on both sides so I decied to drive up the bank on a 45' angle I gave it some gas and bang the tie rod, brake line and cv blew. I got my H2 from southgate in edmonton and the broken parts have been sent there for the service department to decied if they will warrenty them or not. My truck is in great shape NO scratches and No signs of abuse.

TBarrow

10-24-2003, 01:42 AM

That defines "pucker Factor"

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DRTYFN

10-24-2003, 01:43 AM

Did you happen to take any pics? Would like to see where it happened, if possible, to try to piece together how it happened.

crash

10-24-2003, 02:05 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Rhyno:
WOW 26 replies! Well to give you guys some more info, I had just started wheeling and about five minutes in I decided I wanted to see how my H2 articulated. I was on a road that had dirt banks on both sides so I decied to drive up the bank on a 45' angle I gave it some gas and bang the tie rod, brake line and cv blew. I got my H2 from southgate in edmonton and the broken parts have been sent there for the service department to decied if they will warrenty them or not. My truck is in great shape NO scratches and No signs of abuse.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

hmmm, I am having a hard time believing the CJ just went from a sudden thrust of the wheel when the tie rod went. I mean, that IFS isn't that strong, but should have taken that with no problems
Why did the brake line go?

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DRTYFN

10-24-2003, 02:17 AM

It is very peculiar. After having just run most of the Rubicon I'm having a hard time visualizing how this could have happened so easily.

DennisAJC

10-24-2003, 02:34 AM

In his recent posts, he was apperantly swithing to some bigger, more aggressive tires. Mabye...

"A Picture Is Worth A Thousand Words."

DRTYFN

10-24-2003, 02:36 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by DennisAJC:
In his recent posts, he was apperantly swithing to some bigger, more aggressive tires. Mabye...

"A Picture Is Worth A Thousand Words."<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Dennis, are you lisping, you thweet little thing? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif And is "mabye" Swahili?

Rhyno

10-24-2003, 03:54 AM

I have 37" Super Swamper SSR's that measure 35" tall. This is the second tierod that has broken, the first one broke in a accident. The Parts manager thinks that the tierod must of hit a rock and when it broke the tire traveled past its limits causing the cv to break. I didn't even no the brake line was broken untill the parts manager told me.

CB Haws

10-24-2003, 10:46 PM

A buddy of mine broke up his new Jeep Chreeoke several years ago. Now he is a lawyer. The dealership said the driveshaft and all the other stuff would not be covered under warranty. He said he was not doing anything he had not seen in a jeep TV ad. If you don't fix it I will sue for repairs and fraud. They fixed everything. They were really pi$$ he never bothered to hose the mud off. He just had it loaded on a flat bed and taken back to the dealer. Now I have noticed the H2 ads are pretty tame compaired to the old Jeep ads. Maybe the word got out?

DennisAJC

10-24-2003, 11:59 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Rhyno:
I have 37" Super Swamper SSR's that measure 35" tall. This is the second tierod that has broken, the first one broke in a accident. The Parts manager thinks that the tierod must of hit a rock and when it broke the tire traveled past its limits causing the cv to break. I didn't even no the brake line was broken untill the parts manager told me.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hey wait....doesn`t putting bigger tires affect the warranty? Or I may be wrong.

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crash

10-25-2003, 01:35 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by CB Haws:
A buddy of mine broke up his new Jeep Chreeoke several years ago. Now he is a lawyer. The dealership said the driveshaft and all the other stuff would not be covered under warranty. He said he was not doing anything he had not seen in a jeep TV ad. If you don't fix it I will sue for repairs and fraud. They fixed everything. They were really pi$$ he never bothered to hose the mud off. He just had it loaded on a flat bed and taken back to the dealer. Now I have noticed the H2 ads are pretty tame compaired to the old Jeep ads. Maybe the word got out?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Same lawers that have caused the price of vehicles to go up.... SO, I wonder if they saw a jeep jumping off a bridge, if the lawer would do the same

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CB Haws

10-26-2003, 12:54 PM

Sometimes I wished most of them would. Most are just too smart to fall for that trick.
What's 100 lawayers driving their H2's over a cliff? A good start.

DRTYFN

10-26-2003, 02:53 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by CB Haws:
A buddy of mine broke up his new Jeep Chreeoke several years ago. Now he is a lawyer. The dealership said the driveshaft and all the other stuff would not be covered under warranty. He said he was not doing anything he had not seen in a jeep TV ad. If you don't fix it I will sue for repairs and fraud. They fixed everything. They were really pi$$ he never bothered to hose the mud off. He just had it loaded on a flat bed and taken back to the dealer. Now I have noticed the H2 ads are pretty tame compaired to the old Jeep ads. Maybe the word got out?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

SCUMBAG LAWYER!!! Only a blood-sucking lawyer would bring a mud-caked vehicle in to a mechanic so the mechanic has to deal with it.

crash

10-26-2003, 04:39 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by DRTYFN:

SCUMBAG LAWYER!!! Only a blood-sucking lawyer would bring a mud-caked vehicle in to a mechanic so the mechanic has to deal with it.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, and its NO fun... We had a BAND NEW, only 160 miles on it(back in 96) truck, that the kid had blown the clutch up in it in a mud hole, was towed from the hole to the shop.. That sucked so bad, I still remember it.....

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