GM and Corvette pwn3d

[KenP]

While GM was farting around with the new 'vette engine and all it's horsepower, something sinister was afoot.

Dodge was quietly prepping a new Viper engine.

600hp for '08!!!

LMAO!!!!:jump:

[DRTYFN]

650hp & 3000lbs > than that crap

Corvette SS (http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/FVDP/Photos/styleId=100727723#)

[bparker]

Who wants to drive a giant clown shoe? :giggling:

[DRTYFN]

Who wants to drive a giant clown shoe? :giggling:
:jump: And it sounds like an out of tune V6 in a paper bag.:jump: :OWNED:

[Marcmedic]

650hp & 3000lbs > than that crap

Corvette SS (http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/FVDP/Photos/styleId=100727723#)

:iagree:

[KenP]

650hp & 3000lbs > than that crap

Corvette SS (http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/FVDP/Photos/styleId=100727723#)Oh yeah. I forgot about the Special Edition versions of the 'vette.:lame:

The Viper I'm referring to isn't a special edition. Nope. Just a typical, everyday Viper anyone can pick up.

LMAO!!!:giggling:

BTW, the link you provided states the limited edition vette has 600hp, not 650.

ROTFLMAO!!!:dancingbanana:

How many of those Special Edition 'vettes are going to be made anyway?

OMFG!!!!:OWNED: :giggling:

[DRTYFN]

Sorry, but the latest info says 650+. BTW, you're not getting one anyway, slappy. But Dodge does make some nice minivans that will accommodate that new baby seat.:jump: :fdance:

[bparker]

:giggling:


But Dodge does make some nice minivans that will accommodate that new baby seat.:jump: :fdance:

[KenP]

But Dodge does make some nice minivans that will accommodate that new baby seat.:jump: :fdance:OMG!!! That hurts...:crying:

However, you didn't mention how many of those Special Edition 'vettes are being made versus the regular, everyday Viper.

Can you help us out here?:p

[bparker]

as a former Z06 owner I am really biting my tonge here...

it all looks good on paper till you try to race onem then you would understand

want me to post pics of me helping a bud put in a new viper motor? if you do, wait which one would you like pics of? we only had to put 3 in his viper in 1 yr of racing it....

My Z06 didnt have 1 problem with a huge cam, ported heads, port matched intake, polished throttle body and a 150 shot of giggle gas. It ran like a champ and I lost very little, where as viper guys had a hard time keeping up once the mods hit the motors.

I will post a vid of my gf driving one of my vettes at the drag strip vs a viper and beat him 3 out of 3 times and that particular vette was not even a Z06 and was a automatic :giggling:

It all looks good on paper...... just dont buy one and be the clown driving the shoe round town.... :D

OMG!!! That hurts...:crying:

However, you didn't mention how many of those Special Edition 'vettes are being made versus the regular, everyday Viper.

Can you help us out here?:p

[DRTYFN]

OMG!!! That hurts...:crying:

However, you didn't mention how many of those Special Edition 'vettes are being made versus the regular, everyday Viper.

Can you help us out here?:p
Well, since the Vette engine is hand-built and the Viper has a truck engine off the assembly line maybe you can see why.:giggling:
Which color minivan will you be driving this time next year?:jump:

[DRTYFN]

as a former Z06 owner I am really biting my tonge here...

it all looks good on paper till you try to race onem then you would understand

want me to post pics of me helping a bud put in a new viper motor? if you do, wait which one would you like pics of? we only had to put 3 in his viper in 1 yr of racing it....

My Z06 didnt have 1 problem with a huge cam, ported heads, port matched intake, polished throttle body and a 150 shot of giggle gas. It ran like a champ and I lost very little, where as viper guys had a hard time keeping up once the mods hit the motors.

I will post a vid of my gf driving one of my vettes at the drag strip vs a viper and beat him 3 out of 3 times and that particular vette was not even a Z06 and was a automatic :giggling:

It all looks good on paper...... just dont buy one and be the clown driving the shoe round town.... :D

You must Youtube them for everyone. :excited:

[KenP]

LMAO!!!

A wittle sensitive about this, huh guys?:giggling:

Stock, everyday, not-so-special, un-modified clown shoe stomps "super 'vette".:dancingbanana:

ROTFLMAO!!!

[KenP]

Well, since the Vette engine is hand-built and the Viper has a truck engine off the assembly line maybe you can see why.:giggling:
Which color minivan will you be driving this time next year?:jump:They have to hand build the engine just to keep up with an assembly line truck engine?

OMFG!!!

LMAO!!!:giggling: :giggling: :giggling:

[Marcmedic]

LMAO!!!

A wittle sensitive about this, huh guys?:giggling:

Stock, everyday, not-so-special, un-modified clown shoe stomps "super 'vette".:dancingbanana:

ROTFLMAO!!!

Can you find me one instance in the past several years where the Viper has actually beat a Z06 on the track??? Not some straight line drag racing crap either. Save yourself the time...It's never happened. The Viper will never be able to out-handle a Vette....If I remember correctly....Motor Trend did an on the track comparison a month or so ago involving the Z06, Viper, and a base Corvette (among others). Even the base Corvette turned faster lap times than the Viper...at less than 1/2 the price.

Viper---:OWNED: by the base Corvette.

By the way DODGE SUCKS!!

[timgco]

:giggling: Hey Minivans can be fast too.

http://www.noolmusic.com/blogs/Cars_Motocycles_Trucks_Wheels_-_Minivan_Vs_Camaro_Drag_Race.shtml

I'm not a viper fan either. sorry Ken. :o

[bparker]

x2 :clapping:

DODGE SUCKS!!

[bparker]

Here is one of the vids of my ex gf driving my C5 Automatic (her first race) vs a Viper with a few bolton mods :giggling:

http://65.249.211.237/christievsviper.mpg :excited:

I am still looking through my archives for the pics installing new engines in a buds viper..... :giggling:

[KenP]

Haha!!!

You guys got your thongs in knots!!!:giggling:

I'm sure the 'vette turned faster lap times, it's well known that the Viper is twitchy, but nothing a little suspension tuning can't take care of. Besides, the new Viper pulls better than a G in stock trim. But it's got those special Made For Viper Only tires on it for 08 that are designed more for acceleration, then for turning.

Now back to the 'vette, HOW MANY OF THOSE SPECIAL EDITION VERSIONS ARE THEY MAKING? You know, the one's with the special hand built engine so it can compete with an off-the-shelf truck engine?:giggling:

[Agriv8r]

cool vid....:perfect10s:

[bparker]

Here is a stock Z06 with a baby cam vs a Viper with bolt on mods :excited:

http://65.249.211.237/TonyvsViper1.mpg

http://65.249.211.237/TonyvsViper2.mpg

[KenP]

Here is a stock Z06 with a baby cam vs a Viper with bolt on mods :excited:

http://65.249.211.237/TonyvsViper1.mpg

http://65.249.211.237/TonyvsViper2.mpgBlah, blah, blah... Baby cam, tuning, etc. We all know about this stuff.

Now how much is this Special Edition going to cost?:giggling:

[bparker]

The only thing I know about the SE version is that I cannot afford one..

If you guys are willing to sponsor me I will drive it and race/spank whatever you wish :excited:

Now how much is this Special Edition going to cost?:giggling:

[Desert Dan]

Can you say Blue Devil Corvette

[bparker]

Sexah!

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[bparker]

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[wpage]

Vette over viper any day, every way...:popcorn:

[Marcmedic]

Blah, blah, blah... Baby cam, tuning, etc. We all know about this stuff.

Now how much is this Special Edition going to cost?:giggling:

Probably well over 100K. But if you're willing to spend 90K on a POS Dodge that can't turn...isn't it worth it??? I'll be willing to bet that the Z06 (not the SS, ZR-1, Blue Devil, etc...) will still kick the Vipers ass on a track.

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

1/4 mile...
11.58 seconds
123.62 mph

1966 427 FACTORY STOCK DRAGONSNAKE

What do the Vette & Viper do ?

[ROX]

Corvettes ROCK!!!:jump:

I'd be driving one if I didn't like my license and insurance.;) :D

[SSII]

Probably well over 100K. But if you're willing to spend 90K on a POS Dodge that can't turn...isn't it worth it??? I'll be willing to bet that the Z06 (not the SS, ZR-1, Blue Devil, etc...) will still kick the Vipers ass on a track.

On a wet track or road especially well I have. :jump:

[DRTYFN]

43579

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That is niiiiiice! :beerchug:

[DRTYFN]

Ken, I see you looking in - just shut it. :OWNED::jump:

[KenP]

I just read something interesting:

The Z06 does the 1/4 in 12.1, the Viper in 11.9.
The Z06 pulls .97 on the skid pad, the Viper pulls 1.1.

I guess getting rid of the runflat tires the Viper used to have really helps. And I bet the new monster rotors are really going to help.

Lots of improvements have been made to the chassis. And without all the hype that GM went through with the 'vette.

R&T even said the car is track ready.

What an imrovement, huh?:dancingbanana:

Oh, does the 'vette have the pu$$y a$$ traction control like so many grocery getters?

The Viper doesn't have any of that crap.:giggling:

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

I just read something interesting:

The Z06 does the 1/4 in 12.1, the Viper in 11.9.
The Z06 pulls .97 on the skid pad, the Viper pulls 1.1.

I guess getting rid of the runflat tires the Viper used to have really helps. And I bet the new monster rotors are really going to help.

Lots of improvements have been made to the chassis. And without all the hype that GM went through with the 'vette.

R&T even said the car is track ready.

What an imrovement, huh?:dancingbanana:


Oh, does the 'vette have the pu$$y a$$ traction control like so many grocery getters?

The Viper doesn't have any of that crap.:giggling:

So the 1966 Dragonsnake is quicker ...41 years later

[KenP]

So the 1966 Dragonsnake is quicker ...41 years laterThose were the days. I'd still like to get a Buick GS Stage 1 from that era.

[ATRH2]

SS/BlueDevil/Z01 Video:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrT9KlujoMY&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fjalopnik%2Ecom%2F

[Marcmedic]

R&T even said the car is track ready. But R&T still always rates the Vette as a better vehicle. Not once in recent history has the Viper been rated as an overall superior vehicle to the Vette. If 2 tenths in the quarter mile is the deciding factor of what makes a car "better" than another, then you might as well by some POS civic, trrick it out and put some NOS on it if straight line speed is all you want. 2 tenths can easily be made up by a decent driver.
What an imrovement, huh?:dancingbanana:

Oh, does the 'vette have the pu$$y a$$ traction control like so many grocery getters? Hell yes it does, makes driving it in the snow a hell of a lot easier.

The Viper doesn't have any of that crap.:giggling:

Are you going to come up with any real rationale why the Viper is better or is this all going to be about quarter mile times???

[Marcmedic]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOmqJ3juNYs

I'm sure when GM comes out with the ZR-1, and puts it head to head with the 600HP viper, the results will be the same.

[TXSUT]

Here is one of the vids of my ex gf driving my C5 Automatic (her first race) vs a Viper with a few bolton mods :giggling:
http://65.249.211.237/christievsviper.mpg :excited:


I'm with the Chevy crowd in this whole debate, but that video doesn't do much more than prove that your ex-gf is a much better driver than the guy in the Viper...and even that is not saying much because he absolutely sucked. :lame:

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

Those were the days. I'd still like to get a Buick GS Stage 1 from that era.

How about an ORIGINAL AVANTI Stage 4 !!!

[KenP]

C&D , Oct issue has the Viper as the faster in acceleration, skidpad, and it turned faster lap times. They said it's a true track car.

Even tho the vette couldn't keep up in any performance category, they said the vette was the better overall car. Why? It's more comfy to drive.:giggling:

I guess that means the vette is a girly man's car.:giggling:

And for those that keep bringing up the limited edition versions, I understand the performance differences. But that's the point, you're comparing a normal, everyday car that anyone can buy, to a limited production, high dollar, few buyers cars.

Marc, when I was running low/mid 11's on street tires in the late 80's, my Grand National had "ZR WHAT" on the plates.:giggling:

[Marcmedic]

For the 14K price difference between the Z06 and Viper, you can mod the hell out of it and kick the crap out of the Viper. I'd gladly sacrifice 2 tenths of second to be able to drive a car whenever I want instead of dreading an extended trip in it. Why you sound so worried about the '09 Vette??? Because it'll have a comparable HP to the Viper and you already know the end result??? You can talk price on it and so forth....but the Viper costs over 14K more than the Z06...all that for a crappy interior, a horrible every-day ride, no trunk space, a whopping tenth or two in a quarter mile. You can have your "track car" all you want. What fun it must be to spend 90K on a car that is absolutley useless to drive on the street. As Car and Driver describes the Viper....At lower rpm, the exhaust sounds like a tuba having sex with a vacuum cleaner, and the baritone thrum of engine and road at highway speeds gets annoying in a hurry. Oh yeah...sign up for some of that. When the SS or whatever comes in at 14K more than the Viper I can only imagine the excuses that will surface about how it's a "special edition" car etc... It'll be interesting to see the Viper vs SS production #'s. Regardless of all this...at least it wont be a Dodge.

[Marcmedic]

Second Place: 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10
First Place: 2007 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/13896/2007-chevrolet-corvette-z06.html)


:OWNED:

[Marcmedic]

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[KenP]

For the 14K price difference between the Z06 and Viper, you can mod the hell out of it and kick the crap out of the Viper.For the 20k price difference between the H2 and JK, you can mod the hell out of it and kick the crap out of the H2.:giggling:

[Marcmedic]

Ken...I'm thinking of 3 letters....can you guess what they are??? :fdance:

[KenP]

Ken...I'm thinking of 3 letters....can you guess what they are??? :fdance:SRT?:giggling:

[Marcmedic]

POS :D

[bparker]

lol!!

For the 20k price difference between the H2 and JK, you can mod the hell out of it and kick the crap out of the H2.:giggling: