Any GM Salesperson here??

[Silverstreak01]

My question is, when you use the GMID discount is it taken from the MSRP or the invoice price?? and how do you find the invoice price?? hope this is not a big secret. Thank you for your support.

[HummerNewbie]

If you do a search with the find button above you can find a lot of info about the GMID. The discount is about 2% over invoice. You can find roughly what the invoice price will be at edmonds.com

[Agriv8r]

Typically (always) GMID price is below invoice price. Edmonds does not give you true invoice price, usually the price they supply is far to low and you end up disappointed with the dealership. Invoice price is only available at the dealership or to those who access to the invoice.

[KB7TCV]

here is a link to gmbuypower that i received when in the email with my gmid number. this will show you what the gmid price is on the vehicle you want hope it helps. GMID Link (http://gmbuypower.com/app/linksin?destination=homepage&GMSUPPLR=true&partnerId=510023)

[HummerNewbie]

Originally posted by Agriv8r:
Typically (always) GMID price is below invoice price.

Employee price roughly 2% below invoice
GMID price roughly 2% over invoice

[DDWH]

Originally posted by HummerNewbie:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Agriv8r:
Typically (always) GMID price is below invoice price.

Employee price roughly 2% below invoice
GMID price roughly 2% over invoice </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

X2

I have also found Edmonds to be pretty spot on with the pricing. Actually my local dealer was a few hundred less than Edmonds....

[HoKC]

Both prices are preprinted on every invoice from the factory. If you are buying under either of these programs they have to show you the invoice to affirm pricing when you sign the GM certificate.

[Agriv8r]

OK I AM LOOKING AT 40 H3 INVOICES AND GMID IS UNDER INVOICE FOR ALL OF THEM

[Agriv8r]

TAKE IT FOR WHAT ITS WORTH

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

I went to site that KB7TCV linked to and I only see MSRP, not invoice pricing.

REMEMBER Edmunds and the other sites DO NOT show you the ADVERTISING COSTS ADD ON so take that into account.

GOOD LUCK

RYD

[KJS]

GMID and Supplier are the same exact thing, the term is just used differently here and there. This is the discount that you get from a GM employee that is willing to issue one out to you, they are able to do two per month! OR or you work for a company that uses or buys X amount of GM vehicles and you get the discount b/c of being an employee there. No difference at all between "GMID" or "Supplier" other than term. This is usually 1-2% above invoice.

The "GMS" term thrown around is what an actual GM EMPLOYEE get for themselves, that price can not be passed on to someone, direct family only! And that discounts ranges from 1-5% below invoice!

Now I Know Agriv8r says in all his posts that GMID aka Supplier is less than invoice but I don't know how or what, maybe mixing Supplier and GMS, don't know and not trying to start anything over it but he is only one that shows that? Dunno...

I get Supplier/GMID through work so I have a user name and log-in to the Supplier website that allows you to search out details of any GM brand car or truck that is sitting on any GM Dealers lot in the Country and tells you the MSRP and Supplier / GMID price of it!

I have looked at pretty much every H3 at the two local dealers and not one of them is less than invoice, they are all approx 1-2% over. And the Supplier price on the GM site has never been different from the price on the invoice the dealership has shown, 100% to the penny the same, never different so far! Esp NOT less than invoice! The GMS price for GM EMPLOYEES ONLY, yes has been lower everytime, but that is not what you get for GMID/Supplier!

For example the main one I'm after

MSRP 38,115 , Supplier 34,871.10, Dealer Invoice 34,424......Supplier = $447 ABOVE invoice on this one and every other on the Supplier webiste.

If you have one you are after already I can tell you what it is just so we could compare! I just need to know zipcode, dealerships name, and the last few if not the whole VIN (and if it is a base, adventure, or lux would help too!). Only takes 3 mins to look it up

[walc]

Originally posted by rubher yellow ducky:
I went to site that KB7TCV linked to and I only see MSRP, not invoice pricing.


Here is a link to GID/GM Supplier price (https://www.gmsupplierdiscount.com/ip-gmsupplier/).
I know Agriv8r is the GM of Hall Hummer, in Virginia Beach; but, he is confusing the GM Employee price ( below invoice ) with GM Supplier/ GID price ( about 1.75% over invoice ). Both GM Employee price and GM Supplier/GID are shown on the invoice, along with MSRP/sticker, invoice and holdback.
I just used GID, which I got from Mike E, of this forum, to buy an H2 SUT.

[HoKC]

NOT TRUE!!!

The GM Supplier price is preprinted on all invoices and is higher than the invoice only when that dealer does not have any advertising. Most dealers have advertising built in from the factory because the factory kicks in a certain amount of matching funds. The end result is that the invoice price on the same vehicle can vary slightly between dealers if they have a different ad program set up. MOST (but not all) dealers use about 3% advertising, in that case the GM Supplier & GMID will be below dealer invoice. It will be the same regardless of which dealer you are at and what they have for advertising.

[walc]

Originally posted by HoKC:
NOT TRUE!!!

The GM Supplier price is preprinted on all invoices and is higher than the invoice only when that dealer does not have any advertising. Most dealers have advertising built in from the factory because the factory kicks in a certain amount of matching funds. The end result is that the invoice price on the same vehicle can vary slightly between dealers if they have a different ad program set up. MOST (but not all) dealers use about 3% advertising, in that case the GM Supplier & GMID will be below dealer invoice. It will be the same regardless of which dealer you are at and what they have for advertising.

What isn't true?
Look at the GM Supplier/GID prices at link (https://www.gmsupplierdiscount.com/ip-gmsupplier/) and you will see they are about 1.75% over factory invoice.

[HoKC]

You are not taking into account that dealers have different invoice prices on the same vehicle.

[Silverstreak01]

FYI....made an offer today on a H3, MSRP was $35,070.00 after doing some homework I figured the invoice price to be $31,748.35 so I made them an offer and asked to see the invoice, what he showed me was $32,600.00 and he accepted my offer. go figure???

[walc]

Originally posted by HoKC:
You are not taking into account that dealers have different invoice prices on the same vehicle.

What are you saying?
You can search specific dealer inventory, through the GM Supplier site, and see the window sticker, msrp and supplier price for vehicles, in stock, at each dealership.

[HoKC]

What kind of options??

[HoKC]

Originally posted by walc:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HoKC:
You are not taking into account that dealers have different invoice prices on the same vehicle.

What are you saying?
You can search specific dealer inventory, through the GM Supplier site, and see the window sticker, msrp and supplier price for vehicles, in stock, at each dealership. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
What you are not seeing is the invoice price which can vary depending on the amount of advertising that the dealer has built in.

[walc]

Originally posted by HoKC:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by walc:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HoKC:
You are not taking into account that dealers have different invoice prices on the same vehicle.

What are you saying?
You can search specific dealer inventory, through the GM Supplier site, and see the window sticker, msrp and supplier price for vehicles, in stock, at each dealership. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
What you are not seeing is the invoice price which can vary depending on the amount of advertising that the dealer has built in. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I understand that dealer's invoice ( price paid to GM ) can vary, by a few hundred dollars, on identical vehicles, depending on co-op advertising assessments. However, GM Supplier/GID price is still over invoice by 1.75 to 2%.

[frank6150]

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[walc]

Originally posted by frank6150:
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[Agriv8r]

I know Agriv8r is the GM of Hall Hummer, in Virginia Beach; but, he is confusing the GM Employee price ( below invoice ) with GM Supplier/ GID price ( about 1.75% over invoice ). Both GM Employee price and GM Supplier/GID are shown on the invoice, along with MSRP/sticker, invoice and holdback.
I just used GID, which I got from Mike E, of this forum, to buy an H2 SUT.[/QUOTE]
I am not confusing the pricing, here is an example
H3 Superior Blue 1SC ZM6 Auto Trailer Hitch Sunrrof Chrome Steps 68162717 (last 8 of vin)
MSRP 38235 Invoice 35595.38 GMID/Suppl 34910.26 GM(S) 33410.18 The big diffenerence is I do have advertising from GM figured into my invoice.

[Agriv8r]

Whoops, have not figured out the quote thing yet.

[walc]

Originally posted by Agriv8r:
I am not confusing the pricing, here is an example
H3 Superior Blue 1SC ZM6 Auto Trailer Hitch Sunrrof Chrome Steps 68162717 (last 8 of vin)
MSRP 38235 Invoice 35595.38 GMID/Suppl 34910.26 GM(S) 33410.18 The big diffenerence is I do have advertising from GM figured into my invoice.

So your co-op advertising, on that vehicle, is $685.12+?
Therefore, a dealer who doesn't have co-op advertising would be much more likely to sell at GM Supplier price. For example, I bought my H2, at NuCar Hummer, in New Castle, DE. The invoice didn't show any advertising and GM Supplier price was about $700. over invoice.

[Agriv8r]

Absolutely, it is hard for us to do Supplier, we usually end up with a loser.

[walc]

Originally posted by Agriv8r:
Absolutely, it is hard for us to do Supplier, we usually end up with a loser.

Many thanks to you, for the info, which will help us, as Hummer buyers. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif