What is going to happen to all the I5 owners when they make H3 is a V6 or 8?

[H3 Buyer to be?]

Has anyone thought about the fact that if enough people complain about the engine ability of the I5 (believe me there will be some...), that GM would offer an upgrade for 2006.5 or 2007 models? Who would want an H3 I5 if there was a choice between an in line 6, V6 or a small V8? If they can do the 4.2 or whatever they used to put in the small blazer 2 door a few years ago, I am sure they will find a way to squeeze it in the H3.

Any thoughts on this builder and other H3 owners?

[H3 Buyer to be?]

Has anyone thought about the fact that if enough people complain about the engine ability of the I5 (believe me there will be some...), that GM would offer an upgrade for 2006.5 or 2007 models? Who would want an H3 I5 if there was a choice between an in line 6, V6 or a small V8? If they can do the 4.2 or whatever they used to put in the small blazer 2 door a few years ago, I am sure they will find a way to squeeze it in the H3.

Any thoughts on this builder and other H3 owners?

[XM DUDE]

they are working on an Alpha package, wich I'm shure will have a V6.

[H3 Buyer to be?]

For when? And what would you guess for a price?

[firm]

what will that do to the gas mileage, it's already 12-14mpg

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by XM DUDE:
they are working on an Alpha package, wich I'm shure will have a V6. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Alpha, right now, will be a turboed version of the current engine. No new engines. Of course all of that can change with the wind with GM's situation but don't count on a "V" next.

[DRTYFN]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by H3 Buyer to be?:
Has anyone thought about the fact that if enough people complain about the engine ability of the I5 (believe me there will be some...), that GM would offer an upgrade for 2006.5 or 2007 models? Who would want an H3 I5 if there was a choice between an in line 6, V6 or a small V8? If they can do the 4.2 or whatever they used to put in the small blazer 2 door a few years ago, I am sure they will find a way to squeeze it in the H3.

Any thoughts on this builder and other H3 owners? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh great, another feet-dragger. How long are you going to wait before pulling the trigger on an H3? Every day that goes by is one less day you can enjoy wheeling an H3.

[Here\'s Johnny]

I know I've read somewhere that they might bring over a diesel powerplant to put in the H3 but I can't remeber from where. Is it just a rumor?

[tonka61]

im not buying the h3 cause of the engine size. i like it but im telling you i6 would be great. best engine to have if they did an i6 they would have a really nice vehicle.

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Here's Johnny:
I know I've read somewhere that they might bring over a diesel powerplant to put in the H3 but I can't remeber from where. Is it just a rumor? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>There were test mules with a "baby duramax" or something in them but this was before all of the shakeup at GM.

Theory is the cheapest route now is to get power out of the current engine through induction and call it Alpha and get that out since there are other changes to the truck than just the engine for the Alpha line. Maybe follow that up in 1 or 2 years with the diesel or a "V".

They have had the diesels in the H3, the Duramax plant has hugely increased it's capacity, so a baby duramax is not out of the question, off the bat, for the Alpha H3. I'm just trying to keep the rumors current. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[wannabeH3]

if you keep waiting for the best you will never have the coolest here and now... like i do! ha! if something new and better comes out, ill ditch the h3 for the cooler one! after all its only money!

[H3 Buyer to be?]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DRTYFN:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by H3 Buyer to be?:
Has anyone thought about the fact that if enough people complain about the engine ability of the I5 (believe me there will be some...), that GM would offer an upgrade for 2006.5 or 2007 models? Who would want an H3 I5 if there was a choice between an in line 6, V6 or a small V8? If they can do the 4.2 or whatever they used to put in the small blazer 2 door a few years ago, I am sure they will find a way to squeeze it in the H3.

Any thoughts on this builder and other H3 owners? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh great, another feet-dragger. How long are you going to wait before pulling the trigger on an H3? Every day that goes by is one less day you can enjoy wheeling an H3. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Here is mine genius, I already sold it...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIte...ame=STRK%3AMESO%3AIT (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;rd=1,1&amp;item=4558548891&amp;sspa gename=STRK%3AMESO%3AIT)

[wannabeH3]

why did you sell it in the first place?

[DeLeon]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by wannabeH3:
if you keep waiting for the best you will never have the coolest here and now... like i do! ha! if something new and better comes out, ill ditch the h3 for the cooler one! after all its only money! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You're right! There will always be something better coming, i.e. the H2 Alpha, that one is coming out for sure and a lot of people are still getting the H2s, same with the H1, the new H1 alpha came out already and I'm sure that H1 owners are still pretty happy with their trucks even though it's not an alpha, I'd buy an older H1 if I had the money, the fact that is not an alpha does not bother me at all, and I'm pretty sure the same will happen with the H3s: there will be a lot of people that would buy your 06 H3 if it's cheaper than the alpha version... it is a HUMMER after all, you will never have problems trying to sell it... Just my two cents.

[usetosellhummer]

With GM's cutbacks the H3 will stay the same with some upgrades but no new powerplant. I am so sick of this no power talk. You want power then buy the H2 and live with the fuel eco. **** buy the Nissian and good luck if you come wheeling. It's not a racer car! Say it again class "Hummer's are not built for speed!"
again.. "Hummers are not built for speed" Drive me nuts If I was still selling I would have to go off on the first customer who told me it had no poer or why don't they put a v6 8 10 12 **** put a rocket engine in it and someone will still not like the performance. You like it? Buy it and have fun!!!!!!!!!!!

[DeLeon]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by usetosellhummer:
With GM's cutbacks the H3 will stay the same with some upgrades but no new powerplant. I am so sick of this no power talk. You want power then buy the H2 and live with the fuel eco. **** buy the Nissian and good luck if you come wheeling. It's not a racer car! Say it again class "Hummer's are not built for speed!"
again.. "Hummers are not built for speed" Drive me nuts If I was still selling I would have to go off on the first customer who told me it had no poer or why don't they put a v6 8 10 12 **** put a rocket engine in it and someone will still not like the performance. You like it? Buy it and have fun!!!!!!!!!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Calm down buddy, take a deep breath and count to ten... there will be a lot of people like myself that will buy the H3 and will enjoy every part of it, I would probably add a SC if it ever becomes available, but for the moment I can say that I'm very happy with the performance of my truck, so now you just have to ignore people saying that is should have a V6 or V8 and enjoy your ride :-)

[HummerNewbie]

Don't they have a nuclear version coming out too http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[TimW]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HummerNewbie:
Don't they have a nuclear version coming out too http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No...Bush signed a moratorium on dilithium crystal importation from the Nexxian Galaxy...something about them not "being with us."

http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[firm]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by TimW:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HummerNewbie:
Don't they have a nuclear version coming out too http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No...Bush signed a moratorium on dilithium crystal importation from the Nexxian Galaxy...something about them not "being with us."

http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I thought Bush like Nucular engines.

[BeerDog]

I truly believe that the GM Engineers knew what they were doing when they designed and built the H3. With that my H3 vehicle search continues.... which I say has been very frustrating so far...

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tonka61:
im not buying the h3 cause of the engine size. i like it but im telling you i6 would be great. best engine to have if they did an i6 they would have a really nice vehicle. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>you're not buying an H3 because you are not old enough to have a driver's license, much less pee standing up.

[H3 Buyer to be?]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by wannabeH3:
why did you sell it in the first place? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I am holding out hope, that the Offroad pacakge with the transmission difference will be a tad quicker off the line. My wife's 3.0 X5 at the same weight and HP is wayyyy quicker...

And I wanted the blue, but now they are saying another mont, and I cant wait...

Unless Killian will lend me his black H3 for a month?

[H3 Buyer to be?]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by usetosellhummer:
With GM's cutbacks the H3 will stay the same with some upgrades but no new powerplant. I am so sick of this no power talk. You want power then buy the H2 and live with the fuel eco. **** buy the Nissian and good luck if you come wheeling. It's not a racer car! Say it again class "Hummer's are not built for speed!"
again.. "Hummers are not built for speed" Drive me nuts If I was still selling I would have to go off on the first customer who told me it had no poer or why don't they put a v6 8 10 12 **** put a rocket engine in it and someone will still not like the performance. You like it? Buy it and have fun!!!!!!!!!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Little hostile are we? All I mean is I don't want to look at a friggin 2000 pound Dodge Neon Turbo, and go "damn I wish my H3 had an engine like that..."

LOL, relaxe, if I had nothing to bitch about what else would I have to do?

[H3 Buyer to be?]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BeerDog:
I truly believe that the GM Engineers knew what they were doing when they designed and built the H3. With that my H3 vehicle search continues.... which I say has been very frustrating so far... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Bite the bullet go to Sewell, I got 2 from there already...

[NoMoGMPG]

Read about the H3 future diesel availability here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1378749/posts

My limited rumor understanding is it will be a common rail fully compatible with B100 biodiesel. Can you say "**** off OPEC"? Sure you can...

Dave

[skeeter]

Everyone can keep bitching about to power, and I will keep enjoying my H3 just the way it is. I pull a 10 ft cargo trailer one day a week, 140 miles round trip, and my 18 foot boat on the weekends. It gets the job done. If and when a motor upgrade comes out, I will take a look. Right here, and now "it gets the job done". I have about 3000 miles on it now, and my acceleration has improved. I think the motor is starting to loosen up a bit. I still have my Corvette in the garage if I want to get out and fly.

[hispeed6]

Gents,

I have to say that maybe some of us might need to mitigate our expectations of what we want out of our trucks. Not trying to incite anyone here but it IS a truck and it was designed to be durable.

Everything is a compromise and from an engineering perspective I'd consider the H3 a very happy medium between economy, size, performance, toughness, longevity, cost, etc. If it doesn't suit you then maybe there are alternatives out there on the market that do? The engineers at GM and Hummer didn't design this truck to disappoint you. And I'd say for the majority of us who have bought the truck they've succeeded in finding the sweet spot. Besides, sales of a base model vehicle usually promote/support a) add-on models with more specialized performance (i.e. jeep rubicon, corvette Z06) and b) aftermarket vendors who step up and offer products to alter a stock vehicle's attributes. Could the acceleration be improved? Of course, but at the expense of what? Fuel economy? Purchase price? The hit GM/Hummer would take with the CAFE regs?

And honestly, if you REALLY want to drive a slug for comparison's sake I think I could still find the owner of my old '95 4Runner with the 3.0 V6 (was just thumbing through July's Car and Driver, the '90 4Runner with the same engine was the worst they tested that year at 15.7 seconds zero to sixty). I bet the guy I sold it to would trade you for a weekend (or forever).

On a personal note if I really want to get somewhere in a hurry I have a conveyance tailored specifically for that endeavour. It has two wheels and 1000cc's.

[firm]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by H3 Buyer to be?:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by wannabeH3:
why did you sell it in the first place? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I am holding out hope, that the Offroad pacakge with the transmission difference will be a tad quicker off the line. My wife's 3.0 X5 at the same weight and HP is wayyyy quicker...
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Buyer- I might be wrong, but doesn't the X5 have like 330hp?

I was reading somewhere that the Vortec engine has the ability to change according to driving style. It can put out a lot more horses then the numbers say. You also have to look at the gearing. Nissan may have 245+ hp, but how much of that is getting to the wheels? That's what is important.

[HummerBuck]

Since I do will not have my H3 until next week, my evaluation of the engine is strictly from the test drive and comments on this forum. I assume that the H3 will evetually be a hover craft with a jet engine, and if that happens, I will probably upgrade. I bought the H3 because it has what I want NOW. The look, the body, the off-road and on-road capabilities. If it gets me from point A to point B in a reasonable time, I am happy. The main reason I bought the H3 is for once in my life I wanted to be the first one on the block to have one. It's a mid-life crisis thing.

[Desert Dan]

If you want speed and HP then get a Jeep Grand Cherokee with the HEMI!

I have read about lots of people having trouble with the Multi-Displacement System / variable cylinder system on the Hemi.

If you look at the power to weight ratio of the H3 it is not so bad but not a Corvette.

Compare these rough numbers:

H3 4700lbs with 220 HP

Land Crusier (6 cylinder) FJ 80 4595lbs with 155 HP

Jeep Grand Cherokee 4094 LBS with 330HP HEMI

Jeep Rubicon Unlimited 4000LBS with 190HP

Jeep Liberty 4033LBS with 210HP

Original Land Cruiser 4246lbs with 135 HP

VW Van 2000 lbs with 50HP

[H3 Buyer to be?]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by firm:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by H3 Buyer to be?:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by wannabeH3:
why did you sell it in the first place? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I am holding out hope, that the Offroad pacakge with the transmission difference will be a tad quicker off the line. My wife's 3.0 X5 at the same weight and HP is wayyyy quicker...
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Buyer- I might be wrong, but doesn't the X5 have like 330hp?

I was reading somewhere that the Vortec engine has the ability to change according to driving style. It can put out a lot more horses then the numbers say. You also have to look at the gearing. Nissan may have 245+ hp, but how much of that is getting to the wheels? That's what is important. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

220 HP in the 3.0 6 cylinder, and 3xx in the 4.6 V8... She has the baby one.

[MisterE]

Hi All,

V6..yeah could be great..but. In one of the early posts someone said "they could have used the 4.3 V6 out of the old 2 door blazer". Well the vehicle prior to my H3 was a 2003 ZR2 Blazer (with 4.3)and the acceleration difference is MINIMAL but the off-road difference is HUGE!!!! Yes, I would love more power (even at the cost of fuel economy) but I'm very happy with it as it is currently configured.

Without fail the people who first ask me about mileage are the ones who bitch the engine is too small. Do they honestly beleive their is a V8 out there with 4 clinder economy?

[DRTYFN]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by firm:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by TimW:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HummerNewbie:
Don't they have a nuclear version coming out too http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No...Bush signed a moratorium on dilithium crystal importation from the Nexxian Galaxy...something about them not "being with us."

http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I thought Bush like Nucular engines. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Should we list all of the corporations that Jesse Jackson has extorted money from? Or how about all of the blunders of Al Sharpton?

[Desert Dan]

With the mileage people are reporting and the 23 gallon gas tank the range should be pretty good.

I think the 4.56 gears and 5-speed w/ overdrive help compensate for the 5cyl engine.

I can't wait to drive a 5-speed!

[usetosellhummer]

I would like to check the 5 speed out. The auto was just fine. Ok you all are really gonna laugh I bought a 2001 Pontiac Aztek with the v-6 Air Sus., Heads up display, leather, roof, camping package. Now keep in mind this vehicle MSRP was 32,000. Now you can't give one away. I had to get out of a bad car deal becasue it had a $6,000 rebate. I gota get the Hummer to get people to quit pointing and laughing at me.

[HummerNewbie]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by usetosellhummer:
I would like to check the 5 speed out. The auto was just fine. Ok you all are really gonna laugh I bought a 2001 Pontiac Aztek with the v-6 Air Sus., Heads up display, leather, roof, camping package. Now keep in mind this vehicle MSRP was 32,000. Now you can't give one away. I had to get out of a bad car deal becasue it had a $6,000 rebate. I gota get the Hummer to get people to quit pointing and laughing at me. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I hate those things http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif But at least it runs right?

Just hold out till fall and make sure the wife doesn't like the H3 too much that she takes it from you http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif