I boght this H2 ON eBAY today. Good?

[Peter etg]

I was the high bidder on this No Reserve auction on Ebay that ended a few hours ago.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4541908699
I did not expect to win on 33100. But i did.
So do you guys think it is ok for this truck?
I know it has salvagetitle.
All thougts are appriciated.

thanks peter

[Peter etg]

I was the high bidder on this No Reserve auction on Ebay that ended a few hours ago.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4541908699
I did not expect to win on 33100. But i did.
So do you guys think it is ok for this truck?
I know it has salvagetitle.
All thougts are appriciated.

thanks peter

[NJ H2]

I hope it wasn't flooded in Salt water because every wire and connection will start to rust.

[KenP]

Nice price, but what exactly does this mean:
"This was a no damage flood disclosure vehicle"?

Is that on the title? If not, I'd say you can make a few grand real quick.

[Peter etg]

I donīt know more regarding the flooding than what says in the description.
Maybe i should have checked that with the seller http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif before i put my bid

The rust mentioned earlier worries me...

[KenP]

If nothing else, you have a nice truck to drive around for awhile. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[GeorgeSSSS]

FWIW, I bought a salvage title BMW once by mistake and it turned out to be a terrific car.

I notice a substantial fine print disclaimer at the bottom of the e-Bay page. Before you part with your money, I'd have someone take a look at the car for you (I notice you're in Sweden) and I'd also ask about the "... no damage flood disclosure." If the care isn't as represented, I'd squawk despite the disclaimer. I admit I've never bought anything on e-Bay.

The problem with a "salvage title car" crops up when you sell it. If this car is as represented and you're going to keep it for a few years, I think you made a very good deal. Also, the fact that you are shipping it to Sweden may eliminate the salvaged title issue.

Good luck and keep us posted.

George SSSS

[Peter etg]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GeorgeSSSS:
FWIW, I bought a salvage title BMW once by mistake and it turned out to be a terrific car.

I notice a substantial fine print disclaimer at the bottom of the e-Bay page. Before you part with your money, I'd have someone take a look at the car for you (I notice you're in Sweden) and I'd also ask about the "... no damage flood disclosure." If the care isn't as represented, I'd squawk despite the disclaimer. I admit I've never bought anything on e-Bay.

The problem with a "salvage title car" crops up when you sell it. If this car is as represented and you're going to keep it for a few years, I think you made a very good deal. Also, the fact that you are shipping it to Sweden may eliminate the salvaged title issue.

Good luck and keep us posted.

George SSSS </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes i belive that when i registrate it here, the salvagetitle is not going to be shown in the swedish papers. But not sure.
Anyway, my intention is to drive it a few years and then sell it.
If the truck is ok, i should be able to make quite large profit on it the day i sell it. But that is not my main reason why i want to buy it. Is it possible to check the Floodingdetails somewhere without contacting the seller?

Peter

[Peter etg]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GeorgeSSSS:
............ If the care isn't as represented, I'd squawk despite the disclaimer.

George SSSS </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

My english is not the best. What did you mean by that?

[GeorgeSSSS]

Sorry about my slang. By "I'd squawk," I meant to say that I would complain and threaten not to pay. "Squawk" is what a rooster or crow does when he's angry.

Regarding checking the flood details, I don't know. Some forum member in Michigan (where I understand the car to be) might know if it's possible to check.

I did look at the seller's E-bay history. They look to me to have an outstanding record for customer satisfaction. I think you might have made a great deal.

You're English is better than alot of people I talk to every day.

George

[SssH2]

A salvage title on a H2 over Ebay http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Good Luck!

-SssH2 http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[AmericanPatriot]

^ I'D HAVE TO AGREE WITH SssH2.

[Peter etg]

Hmm......I was hoping to see more positive responses.
Maybe i just did the most stupid deal ever http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

[W1N]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by etg:
Hmm......I was hoping to see more positive responses.
Maybe i just did the most stupid deal ever http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Have you figured out how to take the truck to Sweden? How much do you have to for pay taxes etc... Currently H2 is not a streel legal by all the Europen Union standards. Depending where you live, you have to change the head lights, wind shield, brake lights maybe something else as well. Addition to that, you have to provide official test results regarding pollution, noise, brakes, radio frequencies and some other crap. All this depends on how much in detail Sweden follows the EU legislation regarding vehicles. In some places not at all, but as far as I understand the sosialistic governmental culture in Scandinavia you are not living in the easiest area... Believe me, I know! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

[Peter etg]

W1N
Thanks for your thougts and tips.
Shipping is okay. I will use a well known car-shippingcompany working out of sweden.
I am also aware of all costs such as tax. Very expensive!
Also the modifications you mentiond and testresults will be taken care of by a athorised Hummerdealer here. So of all of this is not a problem.
Btw the H2 is pretty common here in Stockholm. But way to expensive to buy.
Better to do the work and import myself.
The problem is how damaged was the truck from the flooding?
When (if)will it start to rust...
I thought i made a good deal. I am not as sure any more.

[W1N]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by etg:
W1N
Thanks for your thougts and tips.
Shipping is okay. I will use a well known car-shippingcompany working out of sweden.
I am also aware of all costs such as tax. Very expensive!
Also the modifications you mentiond and testresults will be taken care of by a athorised Hummerdealer here. So of all of this is not a problem.
Btw the H2 is pretty common here in Stockholm. But way to expensive to buy.
Better to do the work and import myself.
The problem is how damaged was the truck from the flooding?
When (if)will it start to rust...
I thought i made a good deal. I am not as sure any more. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Do you know how much they charge for the tests in Stockholm? After doing it could you send them to me? Where are you getting all replasement parts? I'm in process of buying a new H2 from States and having it supercharged by Lingenfelter. Then I'll ship it to Finland. By the way, Kroymans Corporation will be importing H2's to Europe by the end of this year. At that time they will have to have everything tested and approved by the EU so importing should get much easier.

thanks and hope your H2 is not damaged!

[Dallion]

I ran the vin on carfax.com for you. Here were the results:

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The story of this 2004 HUMMER HUMMER H2 (5GRGN23U54H103382) according to our interpretation of the information reported to CARFAX:

This SUV has had at least 3 owners. The first title for this SUV was reported to CARFAX by a Michigan DMV in 2003.

It was severely damaged and issued a Flood and Salvage title by a DMV.

It has not been reported by a DMV as having an Exceeds Mechanical Limits or Not Actual Mileage title.

It has a consistent mileage history with no indication of an odometer rollback. It was driven an average of 11,220 miles per year, which is lower than the industry average of 15,000. The last odometer reading, reported on 03/02/2005, was 14,356 miles.

It was not reported by a DMV as a Manufacturer Buyback (LEMON).

Its original manufacturer warranty was voided after it was severely damaged.

[Dallion]

And here is the technical definition of salvage title:

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Salvage Title - A Salvage Title is issued on a vehicle damaged to the extent that the cost of repairing the vehicle for safe operation exceeds its fair market value; or a vehicle that has been declared a Total Loss by an insurer or other state or jurisdiction. Some states treat Junk titles the same as Salvage but the majority use this title to indicate that a vehicle is not road worthy and cannot be titled again in that state. The following ten States also use Salvage titles to identify stolen vehicles - AZ, FL, GA, IL, MN, NJ, NM, NY, OK and OR.

[Peter etg]

Dallion.
Thank you very much!!!
I guess this means that this truck is to stay away from right!!??
"severly damaged" Sounds serious. What could have happend?

[Peter etg]

"............This was a no damage flood disclosure vehicle everything works perfect it still smells brand new! .........."

Text from the item-description in Ebay.
I guess it is not all true then.

[Dallion]

Ya based on the fact that it was reported as 'severely' damaged I would stay away from that. Even if you spend a few G more on your H2 you would probably be saving yourself a lot of heartache in the long run.

[Peter etg]

Dallion.
I emailed the seller the carfaxreport you posted.
Here is the reply i just got from him:

"I have no clue what that means other than I know the miles are actual and
there was no flood damage to the truck I guarantee it. That truck still has
bumper to bumper factory warranty. So you are buying it at no risk at all."

[Peter etg]

Dallion. Any chance you can check the history for this H2 03?
5GRGN23U33H117148

thanks peter

[partsguy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by etg:
Dallion.
I emailed the seller the carfaxreport you posted.
Here is the reply i just got from him:

"I have no clue what that means other than I know the miles are actual and
there was no flood damage to the truck I guarantee it. That truck still has
bumper to bumper factory warranty. So you are buying it at no risk at all." </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Something smells http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[W1N]

Hey etg,

Check out http://www.autotrader.com/. I keep finding pretty good deals over there. I think they are worth looking.

Can you answer my questions above...

thanks!

[Dallion]

The story of this 2003 HUMMER HUMMER H2 (5GRGN23U33H117148) according to our interpretation of the information reported to CARFAX:

This SUV has had 2 owners and was owned in Ohio.
It was originally registered to a company, like a bank or firm, to be used for business purposes.

It has had no minor or moderate accidents reported to CARFAX.

It has had no DMV-reported total loss events, like a major accident, fire or flood.

It has not been reported by a DMV as having an Exceeds Mechanical Limits or Not Actual Mileage title.

It has a consistent mileage history with no indication of an odometer rollback. It was driven an average of 25,641 miles per year, which is higher than the industry average of 15,000.

The last odometer reading, reported on 03/28/2005, was 58,521 miles.

It was not reported by a DMV as a Manufacturer Buyback (LEMON).

Its basic warranty has expired. You may want to discuss an extended warranty with your dealer.


Date:
Mileage Reading:
Source:
General Comments:


Original Equipment OnStar
Vehicle equipped with OnStar &
Personal Calling
Press the Blue OnStar button in this vehicle, or click here for activation and membership information


12/16/2002 Ohio
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Loveland, OH
Registered as
corporate vehicle


12/26/2002 20 Ohio
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Loveland, OH
Title #3103839065
Title issued or updated
First owner reported
Loan or lien reported


05/08/2003 9,000 Ohio
Inspection Station
Passed emissions inspection


05/08/2003 Ohio
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Dayton, OH
Title #2900629765
Title issued or updated
New owner reported


03/28/2005 58,521 Dealer Inventory
Troy, OH
Vehicle offered for sale

[Peter etg]

W1N
The company taht is authorised Hummerdealer/service is located here in stockholm and named Rindab.
You can check with them all you need to know about testresults and so on.
www.rindab.se (http://www.rindab.se) (ofcourse only swedish language in the webpage)
I donīt know about finland. But in sweden itīs not possible to registrate a modified car/truck from Canada/USA. it has to be stock to be able to registrate here.
Then it can be modified.

[Peter etg]

Dallion. Thanks again! i appriciate your help.
Maybe that one is a better buy for me.
2003, adv. pack. 58xxx miles, US 33000

[Dallion]

Look around some. Sometimes you can get an even better deal than that. I seen an 03 with only 28k miles on it the other day for 34k.

[Peter etg]

Seller said the truck was "not damaged att all" in the flooding.
Carfax saids it was "severly damaged".
Is there any other place i can check what really have happened to it?

Peter

[Dallion]

etg,

I would take the word of carfax over the dealer. The dealer wants to get rid of his vehicle and will tell you anything to do so. Fact is that a salvage title isn't issued just for the hell of it http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

And a car has to sustain major damage to even get a salvage title, in the exact words 'the damage to the vehicle has to be more extensive than the fair market value of the vehicle'


I would say steer clear, lots of other good H2's out there http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Peter etg]

Dallion,
I agree. I will look for something else.

thanks for all the checking you have done.

Peter

[GeorgeSSSS]

Dallion: You may be a Hummer Novice on the site karma scale, but you sure look like a pro to me. Great job. It's people like you that make our site a strong resource.

George SSSS

[Peter etg]

I agree with GeorgeSSSS. Without the help and information from Dallion i might have done the worst deal in my life.

THANKS!

Peter

[Ed G.]

Peter, have you seen this one?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=43913&item=4543530959&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

[Peter etg]

Ed, thanks.
I will keep an eye on that one and see how it goes.

Peter