Dammit!

Don't forget that there is more suspension travel on a lifted H2, so you will get more extremes. Also, those big tires grip incredibly well, and will by themselves toe in/out just beacuse they are gripping and pulling so well.


May well do, I hadn't given it much thought, but will get back around to installing my one, once I get a Rancho steering stab, and see if it helps.

This was without even locking the front, but the wheels are spinning and you can clearly see what happens as the suspension bounces and the center link flexes, causing the tires to deflect and pull in/out. That is a good way to break a tie rod.

[img]http://www.*******club.com/events/060422/images/027.jpg[/img] </div></BLOCKQUOTE>It just looks to me like your front tires are trying to get up the hill faster than the rest of the truck.

Phil, does there happen to be video of you doing the same thing the picture shows?

Here we go with coincidences again.

Phil, your pic was before you blew the CV, correct? I wonder if there is any weight to my far-fetched idea of both tires toeing in stressing the CVs?

It's admittedly far-fetched. Especially since neither of you were locked up front and it's going through a diff anyway but ......

Too much traction when the locker is not needed, that's how you'll break stuff. With all the traction you have at Moab with those tires you rarely need to use the rear locker. In fact you can run many of the trails in 4Hi Open and only switch to 4Lo for the tougher obstacles.

FWIW I never use a rear locker when turning (apart from in bad mud), doesn't do the vehicle any good. Same goes for the front, it is usually only on for a few seconds, then straight off again. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I am always on/off with the rear locker. I try to never have it on if the truck is turning unless it's just absolutely necessary.

We did everything on the trails we ran except Hell's gate because of fear of gripping like Phil's did at the beginning decent and the hot tub because that had been done last trip. Everything else was taken in stride and harder lines were taken out of boredom. We could have wheeled more but- yes, the long trip home is more important than pushing it and Ken becomes understandably cautious after something goes wrong.

The lift gives you an advantage- in articulation and clearance. The tires though grippy are good, but I am considering a smaller tread.

I am happy with all except the extra play which makes it toe and possibly makes it more prone to half shaft and/or CV breakage. I am sure to find out the issue and resolve it.

fixed

I was following you </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I don't remember you on Escalator

I didn't hear any 'crack' when CP was coming up the Escalator. All I heard was a loud squeal and the sound of seat covers being sucked up into buttcracks.

Dave

No crack = wheeling mah-sheen?

Whatever, I love it when a man tries to tell me why smaller is better. I have heard the small = less damage story before.

Big = more fun.

If you are going to mod your truck for wheeling, you might as well do what you can to it. Phil, Ken and a few others that have them lifted and wheel them are pretty much pioneering in this area so things will need to be worked out until perfection is reached. There will always be damage- even to the biggest fabricated rock crawling buggy. Everyone pays a price for wheeling their truck and pays more for how much and how hard.

I was following you </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I don't remember you on Escalator </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I don't like the Escalator. Did you make it? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> I was following you </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[img]http://www.*******club.com/events/moab2005/images/015.jpg[/img]

Ain't that the truth!

What? Are you the only one that can be a smart ass?

What? Are you the only one that can be a smart ass? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yawn </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Very true, you pay to play. I think the broken CV thing is being a little over analyzed. Stuff breaks, you put on some big ol' tires and bash the truck around a bit, don't be surprised if you break something.

Like the many Jeep owners that carry around spare axles, I will be carrying a spare half shaft assembly from now on though. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I've never been accused of over-analyzing anything.

I don't think its just the lifted trucks that are having these problems:

Very true, you pay to play. I think the broken CV thing is being a little over analyzed. Stuff breaks, you put on some big ol' tires and bash the truck around a bit, don't be surprised if you break something.

Like the many Jeep owners that carry around spare axles, I will be carrying a spare half shaft assembly from now on though. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I like Paragons idea of all of us going in together and buying an H2 for spare parts. We can bring it to Moab and then as we need things we have it. Then if you needed a part off the H2 then you have to have it replaced with the same part. Or we could all travel like the NASCAR teams. We just all need to bring a back-up Hummer. We know, Tim is already on that program.

Phil,

After reading through this thread...and not picking my truck up yet I'm skeeeerrrddd.

Then again, I may just bring a trailer of parts with me to K-Rocks

LC

You buy it and I'll pay you a fair price for any thing I use

Besides which there are only so many tie rods, half shafts and t-cases on a H2 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>No NO NO. The concept is we all pitch in and buy some community owned salvaged H2. We'll drag it around in a purpose built trailer that will include tools, air compressors, generators, porta-cool, lots of beer, etc. When a breakage occurs then that community member pays the retail price to replace that part and it goes back into the parts bin. Of course, we have multiple versions on hand of some items we know we might need. eventualy we might end up with a new truck with a 5 year old brake pedal.

well thanks to Rox we are in salt lake now next door to the hummer dealer . got to see the truck today . left rear axle twisted apart , looks like it was stuck into a pencil sharpner . in the front it is the same as bebe's the front ring gear is toast . i am currently pimpin in a white base model with some bling courtesy of so. jordan hummer . these guys are great taking real good care of us . bebe is on the road heading west . she will be home sometime tomorrow .

the parts should be coming in tomorrow if not the guys say they can canabalize a new one and have me out by fri. HUMMER is AWSOME at least i have a hummer in the meantime . in moab the rent-a-heep sucked Rox's kids called us the jeep people LMAO


loaner white h3 with some bling