One last word here
I would never show my lack of respect or education by lowering myself to profanity to prove a point,it only shows that one has run out of logical arguements and needs to revert to childish bullying to win,

thanks Fox, but I was refring to the dumbass remark not yours
oh, by the way I have factored all of those into my desicion. and it still stands

thanks Fox, but I was refring to the dumbass remark not yours
oh, by the way I have factored all of those into my desicion. and it still stands

ps, I never said I had a problem with the H@
you assumed that

ps, I never said I had a problem with the H@
you assumed that

ok my list your answers
1 H2 breakovers are average
2turn sharply, you admit "for the size of the vehicle it is"
3 flex is not that of a stock rubi, or a stock rwrangler, I have put them both on a ramp
4 I do not consider 10 miles of trail a off road experiance, more like 2 weeks of crawling around in Baja
5 same ratio as a stock Rubi (rubi is your pick)
6 mechanical reliability, chevy is good, much better than ford
7 again hummer is nice in this area
8 chrysler and mercedes have traction control electronics on their products that can be shut off with a switch on the dash, they make suvs ubder several marks that have these
9 short wheel bases make hanging out to see ones tires nice, as do seats close to the doors
10 ease of jacking points, hummer has nice points
11 rubi develops 85 percent of torque right above idle, lets not get into a hp over weight issue here and rubi is what you keep spouting
12 not under full flex it cant
now not to turn this into a brawl, if you have anyother discussion, let us pm each other, and leave the thread open to others who would like to post to it, our discussion of why you think a H2 is gods gift to 4x4 and my opinion that it is not will prob go on for some time, I feel that neither of us will budge and that will only muddy the waters here. it is a open forum and a public one, I admit it is in a H2 site which means the numbers who adore h2s is overwelming, and that support here for my srguements will be slanted. I give my opion by a H2 owner who is not about to sell his H2 because he loves it to much, but as someone who also owns, has owned, and will own other marks

ok my list your answers
1 H2 breakovers are average
2turn sharply, you admit "for the size of the vehicle it is"
3 flex is not that of a stock rubi, or a stock rwrangler, I have put them both on a ramp
4 I do not consider 10 miles of trail a off road experiance, more like 2 weeks of crawling around in Baja
5 same ratio as a stock Rubi (rubi is your pick)
6 mechanical reliability, chevy is good, much better than ford
7 again hummer is nice in this area
8 chrysler and mercedes have traction control electronics on their products that can be shut off with a switch on the dash, they make suvs ubder several marks that have these
9 short wheel bases make hanging out to see ones tires nice, as do seats close to the doors
10 ease of jacking points, hummer has nice points
11 rubi develops 85 percent of torque right above idle, lets not get into a hp over weight issue here and rubi is what you keep spouting
12 not under full flex it cant
now not to turn this into a brawl, if you have anyother discussion, let us pm each other, and leave the thread open to others who would like to post to it, our discussion of why you think a H2 is gods gift to 4x4 and my opinion that it is not will prob go on for some time, I feel that neither of us will budge and that will only muddy the waters here. it is a open forum and a public one, I admit it is in a H2 site which means the numbers who adore h2s is overwelming, and that support here for my srguements will be slanted. I give my opion by a H2 owner who is not about to sell his H2 because he loves it to much, but as someone who also owns, has owned, and will own other marks

sorry if am not posting fast enough for you , I am at home and trying to take care of a 8 month old as well as clean house for company as my wife cooks, ever try to type with a squiggleling baby in hand, or keep up with typos caused by stray hands

sorry if am not posting fast enough for you , I am at home and trying to take care of a 8 month old as well as clean house for company as my wife cooks, ever try to type with a squiggleling baby in hand, or keep up with typos caused by stray hands

tell yopu what because I need to go out and rake leaves, which means sign off

I bow like a lemming to the Hummer gods
forsaking all other marks of vehicles
I promise to sell my jeep and get my son to sell his LR3 by the weekend
and now admit all you said is truth

satisfied?

tell yopu what because I need to go out and rake leaves, which means sign off

I bow like a lemming to the Hummer gods
forsaking all other marks of vehicles
I promise to sell my jeep and get my son to sell his LR3 by the weekend
and now admit all you said is truth

satisfied?

here is a link that you will love, I laughed all the way through it I do not agree with it's path it takes but it shows you can compare anything to anything, and get a winner

http://motortrend.com/roadtests/coup...ini/index.html