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humdoug 08-03-2006 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by HummBebe


These are the exact alignment numbers used for my alignment today.

Ride is smooooth and the H3 is setting high!:) :) Tonight I adjust the headlights down.

HummBebe 08-03-2006 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by HummBebe
Wait......are you married????







J/K:p :p :D ;) ;)



You did not answer my question :-)

Nor did you respond to my request for additional shackles :-)

cestwick 08-04-2006 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by HummBebe
You did not answer my question :-) Yes

Nor did you respond to my request for additional shackles :-) I am sure I could work something out once I weld mine and try them out this weekend at Timber Ridge Ranch in Iowa.


Not sure how many people are interested. I still have to get my shocks and install them. I also noticed that I will have to lengthen or at least arrange to allow the rear wheel speed sensor wires to travel the extra 2 or so inches that the shocks will allow.

Chris

Ipedog 08-04-2006 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cestwick
Not sure how many people are interested. I still have to get my shocks and install them. I also noticed that I will have to lengthen or at least arrange to allow the rear wheel speed sensor wires to travel the extra 2 or so inches that the shocks will allow.

Chris


Chris -

Do you have pics of the sensor wire issue? How about the brake lines? Are there any issues with them?

Thanks! :D

humdoug 08-04-2006 01:48 PM

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Chris,

What alignment spec did you use?

cestwick 08-04-2006 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by humdoug
Chris,

What alignment spec did you use?


I went pretty much with GM Service Info specs. I looked at the specs from Truxxx and they are pretty much within GM specs although they have a little less caster, and they have a little negative toe as aposed to positive.

Chris

humdoug 08-05-2006 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by cestwick
I went pretty much with GM Service Info specs. I looked at the specs from Truxxx and they are pretty much within GM specs although they have a little less caster, and they have a little negative toe as aposed to positive.

Chris


I'm not sure if the differences between the specs make a big difference or not. I plan to watch tire wear over the next couple months.

The H3 is sitting higher from my previous 2 1/2 bolt turns and it just fells better sitting exactly level. At 2 1/2 turns is wasn't level.

My jury is still out if the lift kit is any different from turning the torsion bolts 4 or 5 turns. I do know it's a smoother ride from the 2 1/2 bolt turns. This is why I can't determine which way is better. Maybe it's not the kit or bolt turns but the extension of the shocks that make it a smoother ride.

What the hell - the H3 is higher, smoother ride and the wife is having a hard time getting in. Three great improvements!:p

lance-n 08-09-2006 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by humdoug
I'm not sure if the differences between the specs make a big difference or not. I plan to watch tire wear over the next couple months.

The H3 is sitting higher from my previous 2 1/2 bolt turns and it just fells better sitting exactly level. At 2 1/2 turns is wasn't level.

My jury is still out if the lift kit is any different from turning the torsion bolts 4 or 5 turns. I do know it's a smoother ride from the 2 1/2 bolt turns. This is why I can't determine which way is better. Maybe it's not the kit or bolt turns but the extension of the shocks that make it a smoother ride.

What the hell - the H3 is higher, smoother ride and the wife is having a hard time getting in. Three great improvements!:p



Truck looks great BTW. Question - are you using stock shocks, or did you replace them with diifferent ones. If so, what type?

humdoug 08-10-2006 10:41 PM

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The stock shocks are still on but the extension piece was added to lower shock bolt so the shocks work properly with the extra lift.

Wife still having a hard time getting in. :)

Killer 08-11-2006 07:57 PM

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I too have the Truxxx kit installed and also previously had the torsion bars cranked. I speak from experience...the ride with the Truxxx kit is the same as the original ride from the factory. Not sure about any of you guys but the ride with the torsion bars "cranked" up was starting to get on my nerves and was very rough in comparison to that of the Truxxx lifted version of my H3. The price may seem steep but in IMHO it was money well spent as I now enjoy driving the H3 much more than I did when it "jarred" at every uneven section in the highway.

H3.007 08-22-2006 09:04 PM

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I had my torsion bars adjusted this weekend by a garage that does professional alignments for individuals as well as many of the local delaerships. The system they used has digital cameras, IR sensors, and wheel mounted reflectors that measure the usual (caster, camber, etc. etc.). The system keeps a record of all adjustments for fine tuning or complete reversal.

The mech that did the work felt that the factory alignment was not correct from the get go. He spent about an hour and a half on the alignment and torsion bar adjustment. Total height adjustment was around three inches in the front and it now sits level. However, he had to adjust the torsion bars many more times than the two or three often spoke of on here. He also said that he wants to see it in 7,000 miles (10,000 mark) to check for settling. Perhaps every H3 is a bit different?

Regardless, after 100 miles of driving both highway and street conditions, ride quality is tighter with less sway. Overall, I'd say it was worth the $40. I will post if I see any unusual wear on parts or tires. :beerchug:

usetosellhummer 08-22-2006 09:30 PM

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One good off road trip will blow that all to hell

H3.007 08-23-2006 01:30 AM

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Anyone else with the torsion bar adjustment "blow it all to hell" after off-roading?:confused:

MountainBlue 08-23-2006 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by H3.007
I had my torsion bars adjusted this weekend by a garage that does professional alignments for individuals as well as many of the local delaerships. The system they used has digital cameras, IR sensors, and wheel mounted reflectors that measure the usual (caster, camber, etc. etc.). The system keeps a record of all adjustments for fine tuning or complete reversal.

The mech that did the work felt that the factory alignment was not correct from the get go. He spent about an hour and a half on the alignment and torsion bar adjustment. Total height adjustment was around three inches in the front and it now sits level. However, he had to adjust the torsion bars many more times than the two or three often spoke of on here. He also said that he wants to see it in 7,000 miles (10,000 mark) to check for settling. Perhaps every H3 is a bit different?

Regardless, after 100 miles of driving both highway and street conditions, ride quality is tighter with less sway. Overall, I'd say it was worth the $40. I will post if I see any unusual wear on parts or tires. :beerchug:


Everyone is slightly different. With mine, the driver's side was way off from the factory. I did 2.5 turns on the passanger side and had to 5.5 turns on the drivers side to get the ride height the same. I only went up about 1.5" and will see how it feels. Then take it in for tires and alinment.

Sewie 08-23-2006 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by H3.007
Anyone else with the torsion bar adjustment "blow it all to hell" after off-roading?:confused:


I think he was referring to the alignment. And yes, I've blown the alignment all to hell offroad. :D

Sewie 08-23-2006 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by H3.007
Total height adjustment was around three inches in the front and it now sits level. However, he had to adjust the torsion bars many more times than the two or three often spoke of on here.


Not everyone went for "level." I only wanted 1-1.5" of lift so mine were only turned a couple times.

zibby 08-25-2006 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by cestwick
extended BDS shocks


Do you have a part number for them?

DURAMAX TIM 08-25-2006 10:19 PM

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We've been doing these to the H2 and all the 99 up GM trucks and SUVs.

It just changes the a arm location in relation to the torsion bars.

No different tension/twist in the bars since they are carrying the same weight.
put a 300# bumper or a snow plow on the front then turn the bars up to the original level, the bars have more load on them.

As said before just have to watch topping out the shocks.

H3slate 08-26-2006 12:11 AM

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I did the torsion bar adjustment today. Did two and half turns and gained 1 inch in ground clearance. It is getting an alignment right now. Any ride difference is barely noticeable and looks great!

HummBebe 09-12-2006 06:28 PM

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:D So whats the update on this???


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