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CO Hummer

09-20-2006 05:58 PM

Re: Swaybar bushings

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Originally Posted by Big Z

Who Has a Lathe, a stock set of Bushings, and some Raw Poly!?? ;)

Well, I don't have any of those. But I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

ROX	09-20-2006 06:01 PM

Re: Swaybar bushings

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Originally Posted by CO Hummer

Well, I don't have any of those. But I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

So you have a Latte, a set of big pillows and a raw ..... :giggling: :D :OWNED:

CO Hummer

09-20-2006 06:03 PM

Re: Swaybar bushings

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Originally Posted by H2 Rocks

So you have a Latte, a set of big pillows and a raw ..... :giggling: :D :OWNED:

DRTY already told me "those aren't PILLOWS"

PARAGON

09-20-2006 06:12 PM

Re: Swaybar bushings

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Originally Posted by H2 Rocks

Well, after only about 4000 miles my new idler is starting to rock on the centerlink. After a recent alignment, I noticed the castor adjustment bracket is at the end of travel again. (not sure if it's related, but I assume it is) I was hoping to fix this by putting on a Cognito support bracket and idler arm, as well as their pitman arm. I wasn't sure if the Moog stuff is better though. Isn't that what everyone replaced their Fabtech stuff with?

Was thinking of trying this: http://www.cognitomotorsports.com/02...t_assembly.htm

and this: http://www.cognitomotorsports.com/02...tman_idler.htm

What do you think of that?

The more I learn about the front end the more I wonder if my torsion bars are still as stiff as they were when they were new. I usually check the height on all 4 corners of the car while it's running, after the air suspension has cycled and stopped. It's still at 42.5 inches off a level floor, all the way around, so I'm not sure if the torsion bars are an issue, yet. Why does it feel so squishy all the time? I rode in someone elses 03 hummer a few weeks ago and when they came to a stop, the front end hardly moved. Whats up with that?

BTW, I'm still looking for new swaybar bushings and can't locate any that aren't stock.
Phil, I left you a message at Trailduty. :)

I would definitely do the Cognitos, both routes. But you are most likely wearing out your idler and pitman arms much quicker do to the issue we recognized with certain H2s.

ROX	09-21-2006 05:26 AM

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I took the skid plate off this afternoon and checked the bolts for the bushings, and they are tight. They don't look bad to me, but I don't really know what good vs. bad looks like. No cracks and stuff.

Here's a pic of the front bushing and idler arm bracket:

ROX	09-21-2006 05:35 AM

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This is a pic of the distance from the centerlink to the frame above it. It's a crude measurement, and I sat a flat piece of metal on top of the tie rod end to give a more accurate reading on the tape measure. This pic is of the drivers side.

I noticed there is a spot where the centerlink hit something behind it. I couldn't find the dental mirror to check the top/back of the centerlink but I do have a pic of that too. (drivers side)

ROX	09-21-2006 05:40 AM

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Here's a pic of the passenger side centerlink (distance to the frame)

I had a hard time getting the whole tape measure into the picture without glare and fuzz. Sorry. The tape measure is set up against the bottom of the frame rail.

ROX	09-21-2006 05:59 AM

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I did all the measuring and checking with the wheels on the ground and straight. Rancho shocks set at 7, I know it's not supposed to matter.
Notice how the drivers side is lower than the passenger side? Not very bad, but my idler is new. It's already gone out of alignment once. The bracket is in good shape and is not bent or cracked. The jounce jumpers are touching the lower A arms. Is that normal?

I'm beginning to wonder if the torsion bars are getting weak, but that would change the ride height wouldn't it? The car does rock when I stop and take off from stop signs. Even if I don't have it floored. ;)

I just thought I'd take the time to post these pictures in case someone has something similar going on with their car.

I still haven't located any poly swaybar bushings.

CO Hummer

09-21-2006 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by H2 Rocks

I still haven't located any poly swaybar bushings.

Is this what you're looking for? Saw these on JCwhitney.com, drilling down on the Hummer>H2>2003:

http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...010344/c-10101

ROX	09-21-2006 03:09 PM

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Yes, Thank you! Our swaybar measures 1.5" though, and the size is what I'm having trouble finding.

Hey CO, have you ever had your idler arm replaced yet? How many miles?

CO Hummer

09-21-2006 03:20 PM

Re: Swaybar bushings

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Originally Posted by H2 Rocks

Yes, Thank you! Our swaybar measures 1.5" though, and the size is what I'm having trouble finding.

Hey CO, have you ever had your idler arm replaced yet? How many miles?

I wonder why those show up under the "H2" section when they aren't big enough. :confused: :confused:

No - I've never had the idler arm replaced. I have 34,000 on my '03.

CO Hummer

09-21-2006 03:23 PM

Re: Swaybar bushings

Hey, get this nice Purple sway bar kit. :D :D

http://www.drivewire.com/performance...aybarkits.html

PARAGON

09-21-2006 03:48 PM

Re: Swaybar bushings

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Originally Posted by H2 Rocks

Yes, Thank you! Our swaybar measures 1.5" though, and the size is what I'm having trouble finding.

Hey CO, have you ever had your idler arm replaced yet? How many miles?

I'm still running the original idler/pitman arms and my truck is 4 years old and have yet to have an alignment off enough to warrant a change.

ROX	09-21-2006 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CO Hummer

Hey, get this nice Purple sway bar kit. :D :D

http://www.drivewire.com/performance...aybarkits.html

AWESOME!

I'm checking to see if they have blue:D

ROX	09-21-2006 05:04 PM

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Wow. After hearing you guys talk, now I'm sure my 03 H2 performed better than this one. I always thought it was because I didn't wheel it as much. Even my cross country trip ripped the idler arm, toasted the pitman and wore out the tie rod ends, and the axel seals were leaking when I got home. No trailer, just me and the kids and a bunch of Hershey Chocolate!:D

CO Hummer

09-21-2006 05:11 PM

Re: Swaybar bushings

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Originally Posted by H2 Rocks

The more I hear about these kind of problems, the happierI am with my '03. I'm wonder if they tried to cut corners on later models. :confused:

ROX	09-22-2006 12:43 AM

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I took my car down to the dealership to have them look at the bushings, in case I needed new ones. Apparently there is a grease zerk on top of the bushing above the frame. The fellow that did the last service said he could have greased it too much. I watched him crawl under there. He said you can grease them with a special tip on a grease gun. So maybe that's all it is after all, and I don't need to find any ever elusive synthetic bushings.

He checked the idler and told me it's not too bad yet, a little looser than when he put it on, (2 months ago). So, right now everything is okay. But, they always say that. I'm sure I'll have to go back soon enough.

Thanks for the help guys, and if I ever do locate any other aftermarket bushings, I'll pass it along.

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