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ROADNOTCA 10-19-2006 12:42 AM
Re: Why didn't Hummer go with 2WD w/selectable 4WD?
 
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Originally Posted by f5fstop
:popcorn: :confused:
:confused:

f5fstop 10-19-2006 10:42 AM
Re: Why didn't Hummer go with 2WD w/selectable 4WD?
 
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Originally Posted by ROADNOTCA
Exactly, something America has used almost universaly for decades.
Dropped the front D-shaft (?), shifted into 4Hlock; steering is lighter, thats for the wife.
It is also,,,,,,,uh,,,,,,,,quicker..................... (You won't gain that much speed with a part time system, if this is what you are implying.thats for me.

I don't understand your message....

ROADNOTCA 10-19-2006 12:57 PM
Re: Why didn't Hummer go with 2WD w/selectable 4WD?
 
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Originally Posted by f5fstop
I don't understand your message....
I removed the front drive shaft.

H3.007 10-19-2006 02:13 PM
Re: Why didn't Hummer go with 2WD w/selectable 4WD?
 
This was an issue that almost prevented me from buying the H3 - but I decided to take the chance. The Explorer Sport (what I traded in for the H3) had the selectable 4WD. Honestly, I can not really see much of a difference in mileage, but then again the Explorer had almost 150,000 miles on it so the mileage wasn't as good as what a new one would have produced.

Regardless, if the research has been done, determining the 1mpg difference between the setups, I don't think I'll be losing any sleep over it. Still, choice is a good selling point and I am not sure I like big brother deciding what is best for me up-front. I always knew when I would need the 4wd...

This is likely an option that may have had underlying liability issues- i.e. some nutsmack sues GM and Hummer for an accident where the driver should have but didn't. :twak:

ROADNOTCA 10-19-2006 02:22 PM
Re: Why didn't Hummer go with 2WD w/selectable 4WD?
 
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Originally Posted by H3.007
This was an issue that almost prevented me from buying the H3 - but I decided to take the chance. The Explorer Sport (what I traded in for the H3) had the selectable 4WD. Honestly, I can not really see much of a difference in mileage, but then again the Explorer had almost 150,000 miles on it so the mileage wasn't as good as what a new one would have produced.

Regardless, if the research has been done, determining the 1mpg difference between the setups, I don't think I'll be losing any sleep over it. Still, choice is a good selling point and I am not sure I like big brother deciding what is best for me up-front. I always knew when I would need the 4wd...

This is likely an option that may have had underlying liability issues- i.e. some nutsmack sues GM and Hummer for an accident where the driver should have but didn't. :twak:
Its four screws at the T-case and typical "U-Joint" clamps at the axle. Orientation reference marking is required only at the front joint. Be sure to select 4H lock; it will stay in 4H lock through stop and start. Its a leisurely one hour job. Enjoy.

PARAGON 10-19-2006 03:00 PM
Re: Why didn't Hummer go with 2WD w/selectable 4WD?
 
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Originally Posted by H3.007
I am not sure I like big brother deciding what is best for me up-front.
Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilD
:confused: The government are not deciding what is best for you, you chose to buy a full time 4WD vehicle.

For real. If you don't want a full time 4WD vehicle don't buy a Hummer. It's that simple. Don't freaking whine that you "might" be getting less mileage.

This is has to chalk up there with one of the most absurd threads on elcova. Dropping the driveshaft in an attempt to gain some wistful mileage or any other benefit is in the ranks of the tornado fuel saver. In fact some engineers believe it could cost you in MPG because you will be riding the ring gear on the coast side the whole time which creates more drag (friction).

Point... If you don't want a full-time 4WD vehicle, don't buy one.:confused:

ROADNOTCA 10-19-2006 03:25 PM
Re: Why didn't Hummer go with 2WD w/selectable 4WD?
 
As for me, I'm not chasing "mileage".:D

Desert Dan 10-19-2006 07:06 PM
Re: Why didn't Hummer go with 2WD w/selectable 4WD?
 
I think the full time 4x4 may help slightly on dry pavement when the H3 is being pushed hard on turns and mtn roads. The front end seems to help pul it thru the turns.

It definitely helps in the rain.

But heck I'm used to a Jeep with an Anti-Rock front swaybar

Steve - SanJose 10-19-2006 07:58 PM
Re: Why didn't Hummer go with 2WD w/selectable 4WD?
 
Hummer = full time 4wd. Part time 4wd is old school.

S.

PARAGON 10-19-2006 08:44 PM
Re: Why didn't Hummer go with 2WD w/selectable 4WD?
 
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Originally Posted by james t kirk
you need help buddy, would you cut your arms off just cause you only need legs most of the time:OWNED:
I did once, just so I could swim like Patrick Duffy in The Man from Atlantis.

PARAGON 10-19-2006 08:57 PM
Re: Why didn't Hummer go with 2WD w/selectable 4WD?
 
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Originally Posted by ROADNOTCA
I would have thought they would have left street mode open with 50/50 and 4H lock 40/60 for OR.

What does this even supposed to mean. If GM wanted a 2wd selectable transfer case, they would have put one in from one of the other lines. Very simple. Since it's a Hummer, it gets full-time 4wd, period.

"left street mode open with 50/50 and 4H lock 40/60 for OR". That just makes no sense. What 4wd vehicle has a split of 40/60 designed in it for off-road and why would it?

aetherH3 10-19-2006 09:49 PM
Re: Why didn't Hummer go with 2WD w/selectable 4WD?
 
I didn't start this thread to have an argument over it. I was just curious as to why they might have chose Full Time 4wd. I didn't realize that the MPG differences were so negligible. It had turned into a decent discussion... for a while. :lame:

PARAGON 10-19-2006 09:55 PM
Re: Why didn't Hummer go with 2WD w/selectable 4WD?
 
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Originally Posted by aetherH3
I didn't start this thread to have an argument over it. I was just curious as to why they might have chose Full Time 4wd. I didn't realize that the MPG differences were so negligible. It had turned into a decent discussion... for a while. :lame:

:violin:

PARAGON 10-19-2006 10:10 PM
Re: Why didn't Hummer go with 2WD w/selectable 4WD?
 
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Originally Posted by PhilD
More importantly, how long would a t-case locked at 40/60 last. Not very long.
shhhhh:shhh:

don't argue

ROADNOTCA 10-20-2006 12:30 AM
Re: Why didn't Hummer go with 2WD w/selectable 4WD?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by aetherH3
I didn't start this thread to have an argument over it. I was just curious as to why they might have chose Full Time 4wd. I didn't realize that the MPG differences were so negligible. It had turned into a decent discussion... for a while. :lame:
I'm with you.

PARAGON 10-20-2006 03:23 AM
Re: Why didn't Hummer go with 2WD w/selectable 4WD?
 
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Originally Posted by ROADNOTCA
I'm with you.
You started this thread too?:confused:

RubHer Yellow Ducky 10-20-2006 03:26 AM
Re: Why didn't Hummer go with 2WD w/selectable 4WD?
 
You will NEVER know the answer since it was a decision made by a panel of people...

SO

Think up questions that CAN be answered...

RYD

PARAGON 10-20-2006 03:29 AM
Re: Why didn't Hummer go with 2WD w/selectable 4WD?
 
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Originally Posted by RubHer Yellow Ducky
You will NEVER know the answer since it was a decision made by a panel of people...

SO

Think up questions that CAN be answered...

RYD
What's the meaning of life?


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