Originally Posted by HummBebe

sweet baby jesus......


are we really going to do this

Originally Posted by nierace

One of my questions/concerns still not entirely sure of yet was the strength of the front axle and its ability to handle the larger tire, is breakage common with 35's on it or does it take the abuse ? I don't want to be swapping shafts every trip and wasting trail time...

Originally Posted by RazM

Same question goes for you since you own both the H2 and H3, since spec to spec they're very close, where do you feel the H2 does better and why?



Not quite all areas, I'll take an H3 through the mud over any SFA rig. IFS benefits a rig in mud IMO where a solid front along with a solid rear gives more room for snagging.

HUMMER's are mudding kings.

Originally Posted by tomp

Ummm, before you go running around getting defensive, maybe you should look at the undercarriage of an H3 and it will speak for itself. The bottom is not even close to being flat on an H3 and there are way too many things to get hung up on.

...and you still have the rear solid axle so your mud argument doesn't even help. A 4x4 pickup will mud as good as an H3 if all other parameters are equal. We are talking extreme wheeling here and the H2 will leave the H3 stranded when things get really tough. If you talking about trail riding like most people offroad their hummers, then that's a different story.

I am talking "wheeling" like you see my H2 here:
http://www.*******club.com/forum/vie...php?f=2&t=7688

Bebe knows what I am talking about - she has wheeled the crap out of her H3

The H2 can fit 37 tires from the factory and if you know anything about wheeling there is a HUGE difference in wheeling between 35s and 37s. The H2 is also very flat on the bottom with nothing to get hung up on.

The, the H2 has had the capability for a front locker since it's beginning

Like I said, I own both so there is nothing for me to gain by telling you the H2 will out wheel an H3

All I am saying is the H3 has lots more things protruding on the bottom to get hung up on

Originally Posted by RuggedH2

Raz,

Dude chill.......

You do look defensive. Tomp wasn't insulting you. He seemed to be telling you what you asked him to.

It looks like you are only open to what you want to hear. What difference does anyone else's experience make if you have already decided the answer to the question you asked.

Tex did come in and say buy an H2 and made a little remark about the size of our toys...... but your comments;

I've got more clearance on my H3 than a stock H2, have plenty of room inside for what I need, and it's just as capable if not more in some conditions.

The H2 is the best full size offroad rig, and the H3 is the best mid-size offroad rig, but there's not much difference between an H2 and an H3 in the capability department that would make someone pick one over the other, other than size.

Brought out experience from people that have both. I invite others that have wheeled both to make their experience available also........ but this thread is not about one being better than the other.

I regret that I got dragged into that. I was just telling the truth, as I think Tomp was too.

Raz...... you are not very objective on this topic.

Originally Posted by nierace

I have been searching the H3 forums for a while and never really find much info or trail reports on those who wheel their H3's and I am wondering how capable they are?

I would say equal to your modded Jeep. I had one as well with a 4" and 33's. The H3 with 35's and a tbar crank gives you some respectable AP and DP angles. Get the adventure package , uc protection, and rock sliders. It sounds like you'll need them. Also, if the funds allow, get the ALpha so you can have the V8. I had two H3's with the I5. This V8 is a big difference..esp. with 35's.

I'd like to know what trails a H3 with a level kit sitting on 35's or 37's would do on a rated trail such as what moab uses of 1-10 or many adventure parks use green - blue - black and reds. I know there alot of variables but with a competent driver and with minor damage on such trails, approximately what category would you put the H3 into as being well challenged but not in over its head.

Depends on your abiliities as a driver. The hardest I have seen an H3 run was Golden Spike. It will also depend ont eh terrain. A 5+ trail in Moab can be doable on teh slickrock, but maybe not on loose trails combined with driver abilities.

I'd also liked to know how effected the road manners are with the leveling kit and how much the 35's/37's bog down the H3. Also if many have had trouble with axle shaft breakage or draglink's/steering being over strained by the extra meat.

Forget about a leveling kit. Just crank the T bars to 24" and you're at teh same height as the leveling kit...and it stiffens the ride up a little. It's a welcomed mod. It still handles close to stock with the exception of a little more body role. When you put the leveling kit on or crank the Tbars, your take the front bumpstops off the A arm. on teh other hand, you get a little more up travel. Again, go for the Alpha if you plan to run 35's or 37's. ..although 37's on the H3 I think will spell disaster if you are going to wheel the pi$$ out of this truck. The 4" racnho kit with 35's have enough room to flex up. 37's rub some, but IMO, the front diff, steering rack will not hold up well over time.


On that note also is there anyone running 37's with just the leveling kit and possibly extended bump stops and some trimming ?

37's will not fit with a levling kit. You need 4.5" at least to make this work if you plan to wheel. Again, I would stay with 35's.

I noticed while searching that the front travel looked to be only 4" on the shocks, is that true ? It just seems to be very little and I would expect more articulation out of it.

IFS is not like a solid axle. So you will not get the travel like a Jeep. This truck is a different animal.

I am asking all this because the incentives from GM have caught my attention and I can get a H3 for a very reasonable price and am very tempted. I currently have a lifted jeep grand cherokee that is great offroad however its on road manners are not so hot and make me weary. I'd like to have something my girl friend can use in the winter in case of a emergency or what ever and not worry about something happening, but at the same time I can still run fun trails. My jeep now is at a point where I would have to spend around 5k on new axles to go to the next stage and run 35/37's, so I'd rather get what I can for it and invest in something that can pull double duty instead of having the heep and another daily driver.
NICE JEEP!!!!

Btw- you should be able to get down to $100 over invoice since sales are down so bad now. You should be at around 10K off sticker with the current incentives and sticker to invoice discount.

Thanks for any feedback :)

My current rig for kicks :

Originally Posted by HummBebe

sweet baby jesus......


are we really going to do this

Originally Posted by 3Hummer

the H3 can take 4 more inches of water and thats something that cant be argued!