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PARAGON 01-11-2005 02:35 AM

here is a better video of the first apache

http://www.globalresearch.ca/audiovideo/apachehit.mpg

PARAGON 01-11-2005 02:35 AM

here is a better video of the first apache

http://www.globalresearch.ca/audiovideo/apachehit.mpg

Fastest H-Town Realtor 01-11-2005 02:48 AM

1-When that man gets state-side, I want to buy him all the Shiner Bock he can drink.

2-A graphic warning woulda been nice...not for me,but for others who may not have wanted to view that...

Fastest H-Town Realtor 01-11-2005 02:48 AM

1-When that man gets state-side, I want to buy him all the Shiner Bock he can drink.

2-A graphic warning woulda been nice...not for me,but for others who may not have wanted to view that...

PARAGON 01-11-2005 02:57 AM

some more good videos

http://dover.warblogging.com/IMG_0206.MOV

http://go.fark.com/cgi/fark/go.pl?ID...he/falluja.asf

http://www.military.com/Registration...30_Gunship.wmv

PARAGON 01-11-2005 02:57 AM

some more good videos

http://dover.warblogging.com/IMG_0206.MOV

http://go.fark.com/cgi/fark/go.pl?ID...he/falluja.asf

http://www.military.com/Registration...30_Gunship.wmv

DennisAJC 01-11-2005 03:19 AM

Anyone have a copy of the one where they were watching two do it in the car. That one was funny yet erotic.

DennisAJC 01-11-2005 03:19 AM

Anyone have a copy of the one where they were watching two do it in the car. That one was funny yet erotic.

GeorgeSSSS 01-11-2005 03:49 AM

I'm told that Paragon's second excellent video is not actually an Apache, but an F-16 that was supposed to be bombing the building that the 30 or so terrorists in the scene were vacating to join in a firefight against our U.S. soldiers. While the 500 lb smart bomb was in the air, the pilot got permission to re-direct it against the guys in the street -- -- with really terrific results. You can see the sighting device start out on the building and then move over to the walking deadmen. Well spent tax dollars, in my opinion.

Here's to the good guys.

George

GeorgeSSSS 01-11-2005 03:49 AM

I'm told that Paragon's second excellent video is not actually an Apache, but an F-16 that was supposed to be bombing the building that the 30 or so terrorists in the scene were vacating to join in a firefight against our U.S. soldiers. While the 500 lb smart bomb was in the air, the pilot got permission to re-direct it against the guys in the street -- -- with really terrific results. You can see the sighting device start out on the building and then move over to the walking deadmen. Well spent tax dollars, in my opinion.

Here's to the good guys.

George

Fubar 01-11-2005 04:28 AM

outstanding keep em coming.

Fubar 01-11-2005 04:28 AM

outstanding keep em coming.

Steve R 01-11-2005 04:55 AM

My apologies....a "graphic warning" notice truly should and would have been in order.

It's just not too often I get to contribute something so "interesting" and I was a bit hasty with posting it.

Steve R 01-11-2005 04:55 AM

My apologies....a "graphic warning" notice truly should and would have been in order.

It's just not too often I get to contribute something so "interesting" and I was a bit hasty with posting it.

PARAGON 01-11-2005 12:27 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by GeorgeSSSS:
I'm told that Paragon's second excellent video is not actually an Apache, but an F-16 that was supposed to be bombing the building that the 30 or so terrorists in the scene were vacating to join in a firefight against our U.S. soldiers. While the 500 lb smart bomb was in the air, the pilot got permission to re-direct it against the guys in the street -- -- with really terrific results. You can see the sighting device start out on the building and then move over to the walking deadmen. Well spent tax dollars, in my opinion.

Here's to the good guys.

George <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I read somewhere that the video was from an Apache, but I also read elsewhere that a Fighter/Bomber did drop the bomb where you see the explosion and that the Apache was on scene and maybe directing the fighter/bomber. This video is being used as propaganda that we just indiscriminately kill civis.

PARAGON 01-11-2005 12:27 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by GeorgeSSSS:
I'm told that Paragon's second excellent video is not actually an Apache, but an F-16 that was supposed to be bombing the building that the 30 or so terrorists in the scene were vacating to join in a firefight against our U.S. soldiers. While the 500 lb smart bomb was in the air, the pilot got permission to re-direct it against the guys in the street -- -- with really terrific results. You can see the sighting device start out on the building and then move over to the walking deadmen. Well spent tax dollars, in my opinion.

Here's to the good guys.

George <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I read somewhere that the video was from an Apache, but I also read elsewhere that a Fighter/Bomber did drop the bomb where you see the explosion and that the Apache was on scene and maybe directing the fighter/bomber. This video is being used as propaganda that we just indiscriminately kill civis.

GeorgeSSSS 01-11-2005 12:36 PM

Paragon: Thanks for posting it. I saw it a while back and lost it. I didn't realize it was being used for anti-U.S. propoganga.

George

GeorgeSSSS 01-11-2005 12:36 PM

Paragon: Thanks for posting it. I saw it a while back and lost it. I didn't realize it was being used for anti-U.S. propoganga.

George

Big Z 01-11-2005 01:20 PM

Now That's Gun Control!

Big Z 01-11-2005 01:20 PM

Now That's Gun Control!

Rory 01-11-2005 01:57 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DennisAJC:
Anyone have a copy of the one where they were watching two do it in the car. That one was funny yet erotic. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think I found it: Apache Voyeur Video

Rory 01-11-2005 01:57 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DennisAJC:
Anyone have a copy of the one where they were watching two do it in the car. That one was funny yet erotic. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think I found it: Apache Voyeur Video

DennisAJC 01-11-2005 07:19 PM

AAAAWWWWWW YAAAAAAAAAAA BOIEEEEEE!!!!!

Nice find Rory.

DennisAJC 01-11-2005 07:19 PM

AAAAWWWWWW YAAAAAAAAAAA BOIEEEEEE!!!!!

Nice find Rory.

DRTYFN 01-29-2005 03:30 PM

Ok, I haven't seen this one before. It ROCKS!!!!

Major Gatling Fun

GeorgeSSSS 01-30-2005 01:43 AM

In another era, that kind of shooting was known as "raining pee on the VC."

PARAGON 01-30-2005 02:30 AM

http://www.gdatp.com/products/lethal...ltimedia/1.htm

PARAGON 01-30-2005 02:51 AM

http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/guns/firepower.mpg

BlackDragon 01-30-2005 01:54 PM

Our Hummers we may have in common, but this kinda gung-ho hero worship of stoopid stuff like guns is where I've gotta stand off from this party.

GeorgeSSSS 01-30-2005 01:54 PM

Paragon:

Very nice. Some people have all the fun.

Kevin B 01-30-2005 01:58 PM

Originally posted by BlackDragon:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>but this kinda gung-ho hero worship of stoopid stuff like guns is where I've gotta stand off from this party. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Then please feel free to stand down!

BTW stupid you spelled stupid wrong, how ironic .

Klaus 01-30-2005 01:59 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BlackDragon:
Our Hummers we may have in common, but this kinda gung-ho hero worship of stoopid stuff like guns is where I've gotta stand off from this party. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

PARAGON 01-30-2005 02:09 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BlackDragon:
....this kinda gung-ho hero worship of stoopid stuff like guns is where I've gotta stand off from this party. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I agree. Gung-ho hero worship of stoopid stuff like guns is stoopid. Now having a complete love of their design, simplicity and complexity all together, their artistic precision and the love of blowing things apart with that is one of the greatest thing we have.....oops, sorry. Now I realize why you have crab up your butt about this. You can't have this kind of fun where you live.

Seeing as how you don't undertand the application of this type of enjoyment, depart you should.

BlackDragon 01-30-2005 02:14 PM

Human life is a very precious thing. Getting some kind of kick out of ripping the head of an insane animal (like the one in the second picture) apart surely makes the distance between that animal and the person taking pleasure from it smaller than it should be?

I drive a car that looks like a tank because design is cool. Design is creative, and creation is life. Using Design to create death is not cool and it never will be.

PARAGON 01-30-2005 02:37 PM

So when you roll over that little ant with your tank and create death, you are no longer cool. Oh....what about the little bugs that you squash against your windshield while driving your tank around.

You see, anything designed can be utilized to "create death." It is how it is applied. I choose to go out and shoot varmints, targets, rocks whatever and do so with responsibility. I take it you would rather your soldiers defend your country with toothpicks and cheese. I can go on and on about how narrow-minded this line of thought can be. But I digress, my fingers are tired.

BlackDragon 01-30-2005 02:48 PM

I also eat meat, but as I mentioned in my last post, this was in reference to Human life.

The terrorists are scum, and I realise that this is a side effect of us having to defend ourselves against these irrational attacks, but the problem still remains that it shouldn't be glorified. That was my only gripe here.

Just to back up the statement I made earlier - I gave up eating red meat a few years ago, because I figured it wasn't good to eat something I wouldn't be OK with killing myself. I eat poultry and fish - I'd sooner keep a cow as a pet than a future meal.

Can't say I'd consider myself narrow minded either, and other than this opinion and the fact that I own a Hummer, you don't know me well enough to make that call. I just don't like arbitrarily killing stuff and celebrating it - what is narrow minded about that?

PARAGON 01-30-2005 03:04 PM

Actually, I didn't say you were narrow-minded. My point is that to belittle one because they like firearms by using the argument that guns kill people or animals, is being very narrow-minded.

You said you don't like arbitrarily killing stuff, but you do everyday. I guess bugs don't qualify because that makes it easier for you to have this view. I fire weapons nearly every weekend, and kill maybe 10 animals through the course of a year. Many are in competions where they shoot thousands of rounds and the whole time they are killing little paper targets.

So, do I still believe a very narrow-minded line of thought is being applied here. Yes

BlackDragon 01-30-2005 03:17 PM

And your argument is being scaled to fit your needs.

You'll notice above that I've never mentioned that I think there should be no killing - what I said was that the glorification of killing is bad.

And do I feel bad about the dead bugs? Sure! But I'd feel a hell of a lot worse if those bugs were people...

DennisAJC 01-30-2005 03:41 PM

The comparison of expressing pleasure killing human life and unintentionally killing a bug.....

Not many things make me shake my head but.....



DRAGON!!!!! Show some pics of your new baby!!!!

LasVegas 01-30-2005 03:49 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DennisAJC:

DRAGON!!!!! Show some pics of your new baby!!!! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Pay attention to the posts you inattentive newbie!

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