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ETD 03-02-2006 09:27 PM

Sounds like y'all want a G-wagon

Anyways, a while back someone in this community WAS going to talk to the Lady Who Directs Hummer. Did that go through? What did she say to our previous "suggestions"?

I'm one of the few who must have been the same size as the prototype H3 model, cuz, the foot pedals and the door switch are ok. I can also go to the store and buy clothes off the rack. I enjoy adding stuff to my base package as I go along. If I had to do it again, though, I would have bought the Adventure package, bigger mud tires, and add on from there.

nmikes 03-03-2006 01:38 AM

one thing not I've not seen mentioned yet would also be a telescoping steering column... with my long legs I have to reach pretty far forward wich took some getting used to.

killian 03-03-2006 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hummer crazy:
But could the "Tall-Hoe" go were the H3 can....lol

No way! The 'Hoe was a glorified mall cruiser, I was happy to dump it.

I'll take the H3 anyday.

CUZICAN 03-03-2006 03:15 AM

Everything mentioned so far except the radio controls on the stearing wheel. Replace that with the trigger controls for the 2 50-cals mounted on the roof.

1COOLH3 03-03-2006 01:02 PM

How about a rear wiper thats sweeps further across the window instead of stopping straight up.

HummerNewbie 03-03-2006 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1COOLH3:
How about a rear wiper thats sweeps further across the window instead of stopping straight up.

That really is kind of stupid but I don't know if it will really bother me since I have never really used the rear wipers on any of my SUVs.

CampMaster 03-03-2006 01:48 PM

Adding child-locks to the rear doors would be an easy change, so should a greater swing on the rear wiper.

Onboard air
Quality diesel - more power
pedals further apart

oh there is so much to write and so little time right now.... more later

thedieter 03-03-2006 03:27 PM

Are we sick of hearing the Lexus wannabes complain about the window switch location and steering wheel contorls yet? Give it a rest.

Heated side mirrors would be a good extra cost option. We have them on our motorhome but have not used them so far. The folks living in cold country could use them and would probably be willing to pay for them, we wouldn't.

We prefer the controls on the wiper stalk because they are the same as on our motorhome, and are probably more reliable, and are always in the same location regardless of steering wheel location.

A backup camera is an option that we would pay extra for.

Best regards, Happy Jack

wannabeH3 03-03-2006 03:33 PM

machine guns

Ma\'Deuce 03-03-2006 04:31 PM

Run flat tires and 4 wheel independant suspension. oh yea, and wipers that work. ok, i'm dun bitchen.
sounds like with most of the changes, GM would be well served to combine all in the Hummer line and build a true civi Hummer. it would be expensive, but it would rule the world . the civi world that is. Military Hummers already rule the rest of it .

HummerNewbie 03-03-2006 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by thedieter:
Are we sick of hearing the Lexus wannabes complain about the window switch location and steering wheel contorls yet? Give it a rest.

Heated side mirrors would be a good extra cost option. We have them on our motorhome but have not used them so far. The folks living in cold country could use them and would probably be willing to pay for them, we wouldn't.


Isn't mentioning the heated mirrors about the same as the window switches and steering wheel controls?

There is no vehicle that has everything that each of us would want and knowing that I am very very happy with the H3 and would get another based on my experience so far.

thedieter 03-03-2006 05:38 PM

Newb:

Congratulations on getting your H3! We love our H3 too.

The heated mirrors and backup camera are safety options that many would pay extra for. Control locations are personal preferences but they have been mentioned so many times that it is getting tiresome.

Best regards, Happy Jack

HummerNewbie 03-03-2006 06:08 PM

Thanks dieter. I agree, the safety aspect is definitely there and would pay extra for the backup camera. Mirrors don't really do anything for me down here but I can understand the need. The steering wheel controls do have their safety benefit too but not like the others. Was really just kidding about it. I personally have never had steering wheel controls (other than cruise) so don't miss them and have gotten used to the switches.

cwbrg 03-16-2006 06:37 PM

diesel, diesel, diesel

deicustoms1 03-16-2006 06:41 PM

nuclear power

mudderducker 03-17-2006 12:38 AM

1. aux power inside the center console.
2. aux power for the back seat on backside of center console
3. coil sprung
4. better tires, bfg AT's are a good start, but mud terrains are standard on some other 4wd's (ie, the rubicon, h1, h2)
5. two recovery points at rear, like the front
6. why on earth is there not a front locker, or cdl option?!
7. it's a friggin hummer, where's the winch option?!
8. change dish, or something up front.
9. tray on dash for stuff
10. overhead nook for stuff

NEOCON1 03-17-2006 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dei???????:
nuclear power

or an ion drive

gc2488 03-17-2006 01:30 AM

For future Hummer vehicles like H4 perhaps,
fun stuff:

- Even more clearance than H3, in style of H1 and HMMWV but trying to minimize cost of course. Maybe just keep up the good high-suspension standard that the H3 has set.

- More misc. heavy-duty hardware like full set of tow hooks and roof-mounted items. Ladder?

- Good sized power inverter builtin with
AC outlets. (Thanks for the three 12V outlets
in the H3, I definitely use the one in back.)

- Radical tech: A full-time Internet connection, made possible through the Verizon cell phone that is part of On-Star. This Internet connection could be used by the on-board navigation computer, for info lookup like phone number and address type info but much much more. It could also have a Wi-Fi access point builtin so that all your gadgets are on the Internet whenever they are in or near the Hummer. These days, the speed of Verizon EV-DO Internet access is up over 1 megabit per second where "BroadbandAccess" is available, which is more and more areas.

Then your passenger can read and post to these Elcova forums while cruising down the road (or high up in the mountains if you still have coverage...)

Or, satellite Internet, but this is not as practical as a factory option, and has bad latency:
http://www.raysat.com/products/

- Use Google Earth as the factory navigation system on a nice big display (with the Internet access from the previous item).


Radical pie-in-the-sky or what?

Michael1 06-26-2006 05:23 AM

Re: What would you add to the next H3 if GM asked
 
stiffer frame

6-speed manual

manual trans shift knob with trim that matches the rest of the interior (no chrome anywhere else in the interior except shift knob presently)

tilt wheel with finer positioning

NAV with altitude, bread crumb tracking, 4x4 trails, hiking trails, topographic information

electronic disconnecting stabilizer bar(s)

a vehicle which sits level

electric booster engine cooling fan for better offroad cooling of engine and air conditioning condenser

removable hitch receiver

rear seat A/C vents

hood vents that aren't fake

onboard air compressor

leather that feels more like leather than vinyl

the rest of the guages (voltmeter, oil pressure, oil temperature), and a calibrated coolant temperature guage

driver information center that is user selectable for display output (ala Corvette)

dashboard tire pressure display through Driver Information Center (ala Corvette)

A fold down tailgate to enable carrying oversized items

MP3 compatibility with CD changer and NAV

Aux audio input

carbon cabin filter with smog sensor

more towing capacity, especially with manual trans

better breakover angle

better coefficient of aerodynamic drag

less wind noise around windshield A pillars

clutch start cancel switch

second AM band (another 6 stations)

slightly longer cargo area and one that is flat so you can sleep in it

HIHUMMER 06-26-2006 05:28 AM

Re: What would you add to the next H3 if GM asked
 
DAMN Michael! :eek: Anything about the H3 that you'd like to keep! ;)

Michael1 06-26-2006 05:37 AM

Re: What would you add to the next H3 if GM asked
 
Yeah, all the rest of it! :) Oh, and just about everything everyone else added before me. I've been shopping around recently, and saw some nice things along the way. It would be great if GM could wrap all this up into one nice, neat package. ;) :D

Cheers,

Michael

Steve - SanJose 06-26-2006 05:41 AM

Re: What would you add to the next H3 if GM asked
 
With everything from the wish lists, the end result surely would not be a Hummer.:)

S.

NEOCON1 06-26-2006 05:43 AM

Re: What would you add to the next H3 if GM asked
 
x2


35's and a beebster and neo proof front diff :p :D

HIHUMMER 06-26-2006 05:54 AM

Re: What would you add to the next H3 if GM asked
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NEOCON1
x2


35's and a beebster and neo proof front diff :p :D


coughcough.;)

NEOCON1 06-26-2006 05:57 AM

Re: What would you add to the next H3 if GM asked
 
actually just HI proof it and we will all be fine ;) :p :D

HIHUMMER 06-26-2006 06:00 AM

Re: What would you add to the next H3 if GM asked
 
ROFL!
Trucks and computers...if it absolutely needs to be broken...I can do it. :D

wing79 06-26-2006 09:00 AM

Re: What would you add to the next H3 if GM asked
 
affordable navigation

Ipedog 06-26-2006 12:32 PM

Re: What would you add to the next H3 if GM asked
 
This is basically a redo of the list I made way back in the beginning of this thread
  • HI, Bebe, and Neo proof drivetrain ;) :p :D
  • More gears in the auto trans
  • Real tires on the adventure - 315 BFG KO's at a minimum
  • Small lift - 3" would be perfect
  • Better skid plates
  • Winch option
  • on board air
  • Cloth seats that resist dirt/stains better
  • rear air

DDWH 06-26-2006 04:50 PM

Re: What would you add to the next H3 if GM asked
 
Fold out mini bar!:D ;)

usetosellhummer 06-26-2006 06:05 PM

Re: What would you add to the next H3 if GM asked
 
it's fine for the money but steering wheel controls and folding mirrors

bparker 06-26-2006 07:25 PM

Re: What would you add to the next H3 if GM asked
 
Back up cam OR back up sensors
flat folding Rear seats
relocated window switches
heads up display
MPG display option on the trip
Ash/Coin Tray in front of the shifter area (flat open area)
Radio controls on the steering wheel

and my most wanted - a roof mounted 50 cal machine gun

NEOCON1 06-27-2006 03:35 AM

Re: What would you add to the next H3 if GM asked
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DDWH
Fold out mini bar!:D ;)



ah the teddy kennedy model :D lmao

Steve - SanJose 06-27-2006 06:36 AM

Re: What would you add to the next H3 if GM asked
 
the moon...

BigBill 09-05-2006 12:54 AM

Re: What would you add to the next H3 if GM asked
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HummerNewbie
Thanks dieter. I agree, the safety aspect is definitely there and would pay extra for the backup camera. Mirrors don't really do anything for me down here but I can understand the need. The steering wheel controls do have their safety benefit too but not like the others. Was really just kidding about it. I personally have never had steering wheel controls (other than cruise) so don't miss them and have gotten used to the switches.


I like the heated mirror option, especially for those owners in states that actually have snow!

As for the backup camera, my girl friend has the Lexus GX470 with backup cameras, and they suck! I would much rather backup with my mirrors, as I do in my F250 HD, then use the camera! The video on the navigation screen is annoying!

I would change or add a few items:
1. Larger engine - no, I am not into racing these vehicles, but a bit more power is definitely needed.
2. Better placement of seat controls
3. Heated mirror option
4. Armrests on the door and the center console are too low
5. Bluetooth capability - not completely necessary, but something to think about

And of course, the blonde, bisexual, nymphomaniac hardbody would definitely complete the package!! :D

Wisha Haddan H3 09-05-2006 05:15 AM

Re: What would you add to the next H3 if GM asked
 
Here's what the H3 should have had to start with...

- overhead console with map light and sunglasses pocket
- accessible window switches - either on center console or in front of door handle
- heated mirrors
- fold-flat rear seats
- NO chrome wheels on 2007 adv pkg (at least not standard)
- underhood engine light (nobody does this anymore)

And here's some "nice to haves"
- 6-speed manual tranny with hill-start clutch defeat
- mpg calculator in DIC
- rear window that lowers
- onboard power inverter
- onboard air compressor
- backup camera
- air-suspension
- more cubby holes and storage areas
- power seats with the cloth upholstery
- RDS on stereo and aux-in port for external ipod/mp3 player
- one-touch up and down switches for driver and psgr windows

f5fstop 09-05-2006 01:27 PM

Re: What would you add to the next H3 if GM asked
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wisha Haddan H3
Here's what the H3 should have had to start with...

- overhead console with map light and sunglasses pocket i always get a sunroof :p
- accessible window switches - either on center console or in front of door handle coming soon to your nearest Hummer dealer
- heated mirrors available via MUTH mirror, and I agree, they might be nice, but when I installed my signal mirrors, I did not opt for the heated mirrors
- fold-flat rear seats hard to do and keep current ground clearance. I believe the fuel tank is right below the drivers side rear seat. Making an opening for the seat to drop into, would require the fuel tank to be removed or made smaller. No easy answer to this one. If you want ground clearance the seat probably can't fold flat. but I also agree, it would be nice.
- NO chrome wheels on 2007 adv pkg (at least not standard) Agree, this is a dumb marketing move
- underhood engine light (nobody does this anymore) Totally agree. Due to lack of underhood light, the security system is basically worthless. I can open the hood without opening from inside, disable the battery, then the alarm is disabled. Don't ask me how, I won't tell you, but it can be done. I highly recommend a jimmy jammer plate installed under the hood, or better yet, an aftermarket alarm that has a mercury switch underhood. the thieves know how to do this...

And here's some "nice to haves"
- 6-speed manual tranny with hill-start clutch defeat
- mpg calculator in DIC damn things are never that accurate anyway:)
- rear window that lowers in some designs these are not good, problems with exhaust being sucked inside
- onboard power inverter i purchased one from Cobra for 24.00
- onboard air compressor
- backup camera
- air-suspension
- more cubby holes and storage areas this has never bothered me, but then all I have to do is look at the vette, where the console is only 1 inch deep, the owner's manual has to go in the cubby hole in the back since it is too large to fit in the glove box
- power seats with the cloth upholstery that would be nice, but again, marketing steps in and says we want it on leather only to help sell leather, again, I disagree with marketing
- RDS on stereo and aux-in port for external ipod/mp3 player i believe the ipod connections are coming next year
- one-touch up and down switches for driver and psgr windows agree


:jump:

RubHer Yellow Ducky 09-05-2006 02:12 PM

Re: What would you add to the next H3 if GM asked
 
OK, I've been slow to answer this one,

BUT,

1. Window & lock switches in a better place
2. Fold flat back seats
3. Rear quarter window angle out via motors
4. Space the pedals better
5. Sunglass holder, more small & medium storage area
6. Performance options (what ever that means to you)
7. REDESIGN the power seat tracks so when things drop between
seat and hump and seat and door you can reach them without
cutting up your hands...
8. Underhood light
9. MAKE ALL OPTIONS AVAILABLE ON A SINGLE ORDER BASIC, not
just in groups ( you can still give a better discount in group but
don't force someone to buy something they don't want)
10. Factory rear camera
11. Louder factory horn
12. SOMEHOW & I don't know how lower the spare tire
13. Removeable rear headrest
14. More FACTORY OPTIONS
15. Place radio controls on steering wheel
16. Relocate emergency brake
17. Reduce use of CHEAP plastic on exterior
18. Increase length a little
19. Somehow increase rear interior width
20. Increase capacity of CD changer to at least 10
21. Factory AUDIBLE ALARM
22. Locking gas cap cover in black
23. More seat cover colors
24. More space to control power seats
25. Larger cup holders with space dimples(for bigger cup diameter)

THATS TO START

BUT I DO LOVE MY H-3

RYD

Wisha Haddan H3 09-05-2006 06:20 PM

Re: What would you add to the next H3 if GM asked
 
Appreciate the comments F5. I love the H3, but some of those "tweaks" would make it just that much nicer :)

I got the sunroof too, but there's still room for a short console like they put in the s10 blazer. It's cool they're relocating the switches (I wish I got in on that, but oh well). About the seats, if it was a choice between ground clearance and fold-flat, they did the right thing :D

MUTH mirrors ... gonna have to look into this !! I garage my H3 so frost isn't the issue, but my old heated mirrors were really handy in the driving snow.

http://www.kwmuth.com/products/kits/220-0249.htm

Tex_h2 09-05-2006 06:26 PM

Re: What would you add to the next H3 if GM asked
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DWPC
Easy doable stuff:
1. Rear seats that truly fold flat
2. Opening rear window
3. Relocated window switches
4. Driver footrest
5. Driver grab handle
6. Bigger side mirrors with wide angle section for blind spot view a la Ford's.
7. Vinyl spare cover w/ H3 logo
8. Removable rear headrests
9. More inside storage


With all these suggestion, why don't you just buy a H2

fourfourto 09-05-2006 06:56 PM

Re: What would you add to the next H3 if GM asked
 
1 Attachment(s)
Originally Posted by DWPC
Easy doable stuff:
1. Rear seats that truly fold flat
2. Opening rear window
3. Relocated window switches
4. Driver footrest
5. Driver grab handle
6. Bigger side mirrors with wide angle section for blind spot view a la Ford's.
7. Vinyl spare cover w/ H3 logo
8. Removable rear headrests
9. More inside storage

#1 :iagree:
#2:iagree:

#3 I dont mind them there not a issue for my wife and I.

#4 There is a spot to wedge your left foot onto for bouncy offroading.

#5 :iagree:

#6 I installed a blindspot mirror,it fits good ,Pic below you can get it at pep boys cheap
(option #2 get a rear camera)

#7 dealer gives you(at least at my dealer) a cover with there logo that you can remove or have it airbrushed

#8 :iagree:

#9 If you didnt get the monsoon system and have the adventure you have a extra compartment on the left in cargo area.Also you can get alot of stuff crammed in the Jack compartment area.


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