<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DRTYFN:
Sooo... you'll be driving the rig with the built in excuses? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Unless you can find me a Manual 4x4 with just the Convenience Package at MSRP (any color other than Black Cherry). If you can find me that I will be there in an FJ, otherwise it will be the s10 (or maybe the 240sx).

Shaggy,
I actually think it looks pretty cool. With the locking diff you'll be light years beyond the S10.

I can't tell from the pics, but the tires look like street tires. You gonna swap them out?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CO Hummer:
Shaggy,
I actually think it looks pretty cool. With the locking diff you'll be light years beyond the S10.

I can't tell from the pics, but the tires look like street tires. You gonna swap them out? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>In theory they will come with 32" BFG AT's. AT's would be good enough for me, but it doesn't sound like I will be able to find one. Definately not in time for Moab.

BTW...why are you being nice? You are scaring me.

John Elway Toyota claims they are selling at MSRP. Will probably put a deposit down on one tomorrow. Might have one by Moab.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ShaggyZr2:
In theory they will come with 32" BFG AT's. AT's would be good enough for me, but it doesn't sound like I will be able to find one. Definately not in time for Moab.

BTW...why are you being nice? You are scaring me. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The early photo shoots all showed it with the Bridgestone AT's but at all the recent offroad events it has had the BFG AT's. I think the BFG's will be an option, or part of an offroad package.

it's cute

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mooncricket:
it's cute </div></BLOCKQUOTE>At least it isnt a Jeep.

It looks like an Easter Egg in that color.


At least its not Pewter

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mooncricket:
it's cute </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's such a chick/ghey guy rig.
Shaggy, have you actually seen one in person? I wasn't very impressed with it. No protection for off-road wheeling... but it'll be great for pavement.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DRTYFN:
Shaggy, have you actually seen one in person? I wasn't very impressed with it. No protection for off-road wheeling... but it'll be great for pavement. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Havent seen one in person, but I like the look from the pictures, and it can't be any worse then my Zr2 so I should be alright.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ShaggyZr2:
Havent seen one in person, but I like the look from the pictures, and it can't be any worse then my Zr2 so I should be alright. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The FJ was in Walden Colorado up by Rocky Mt. NP last Saturday. If you want to see it in action it will be at Cruise Moab in May and at the Colorado Toy Rally in August.

When seeing it in person it was a lot bigger than I thought it was and as for off-road protection it's got rock rails, skid plates and more ground clearance than an H3.

I saw an H3 in the parking lot yesterday and no offense but those rear shock mounts have got to be one of the worst designs I have seen on an off-road rig, it looks like they hang almost lower than the pumpkin. Do any of you guys ever have problems getting them hung up on rocks?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I saw an H3 in the parking lot yesterday and no offense but those rear shock mounts have got to be one of the worst designs I have seen on an off-road rig, it looks like they hang almost lower than the pumpkin. Do any of you guys ever have problems getting them hung up on rocks? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Never, but I agree. I noticed just yesterday how low they look. Time will tell. My neighbor came home in a yellow FJ last week. Kinda cool looking but the H3 looks better

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by hmrlvr:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I saw an H3 in the parking lot yesterday and no offense but those rear shock mounts have got to be one of the worst designs I have seen on an off-road rig, it looks like they hang almost lower than the pumpkin. Do any of you guys ever have problems getting them hung up on rocks? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Never, but I agree. I noticed just yesterday how low they look. Time will tell. My neighbor came home in a yellow FJ last week. Kinda cool looking but the H3 looks better </div></BLOCKQUOTE>How exactly did he get his hands on one? It hasn't technically be released yet.

Anything is possible in Cali shagback.

I like this truck. For the money, I think it could be a lot of fun. I've always been a Yota fan though.

Its got a strong engine and good DNA to start with. With a lift and some tires, I think you could take it quite a few places and still have under 25K invested.

Buy Now!

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">How exactly did he get his hands on one? It hasn't technically be released yet. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
He is a she and I have no idea. It had dealer plates though.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by hmrlvr:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">How exactly did he get his hands on one? It hasn't technically be released yet. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
He is a she and I have no idea. It had dealer plates though. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

She is probably hot and has skills.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">She is probably hot and has skills. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That would do it

no comment

The BFG AT's will be an option. They will be 265/75/R16's on 16" TRD wheels for $1899. The standard tire will be Bridgestone H/T's on 17" alloys or black steel wheels.

Shaggy in Moab.

Saw it at the auto show, it definately brings the suck more in person. IMHO it looks like a friggin Mini Cooper with a 3 inch lift. Which ='s SUPER GHEY!!!!

I like it, and that's all that matters to me. Get to pick it up between the 6th and the 13th.

Are you getting the auto or manual and what options if any did you chose. Post pics when you get it.

Auto, Convenience Package, Rock Rails, Rear Diff Lock

Congrats Shaggy. Post picks when you get it. What color?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ipedog:
Congrats Shaggy. Post picks when you get it. What color? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>The appraiser fcuked me on the value of my house (just found out last night)...so it might not be happening after all. Oh well. Guess I will be ShaggyZr2 a little longer.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ShaggyZr2:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ipedog:
Congrats Shaggy. Post picks when you get it. What color? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>The appraiser fcuked me on the value of my house (just found out last night)...so it might not be happening after all. Oh well. Guess I will be ShaggyZr2 a little longer. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Come again!

The value of your house? What does the value of your house have to do with buying the truck? Please don't tell me you were trying to use your home equity to buy the truck.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ShaggyZr2:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ipedog:
Congrats Shaggy. Post picks when you get it. What color? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>The appraiser fcuked me on the value of my house (just found out last night)...so it might not be happening after all. Oh well. Guess I will be ShaggyZr2 a little longer. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Come again!

The value of your house? What does the value of your house have to do with buying the truck? Please don't tell me you were trying to use your home equity to buy the truck. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ok, he won't.

Yes I was trying to use equity to buy the truck. So what? Can't afford 27k over 6 years, but I can afford 27k over 30. More expensive in the long run, but cheaper now. Too bad the Lender told the Appraiser to lowball me, so he cut 20k off of the value of my house. Oh well.

You don't need a new truck that bad. I'm honestly happy for you that the appraisal came in low.

The problem with that is that you would end up stacking debt. Since the truck won't last the 30 years, you'll acquire additional debt sometime in the future for another vehicle and still be making payments on this one and then again and then again.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
You don't need a new truck that bad. I'm honestly happy for you that the appraisal came in low.

The problem with that is that you would end up stacking debt. Since the truck won't last the 30 years, you'll acquire additional debt sometime in the future for another vehicle and still be making payments on this one and then again and then again. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I understand what you are saying, but I did put more thought into it then you might think. I am still going to try to get a "second opinion" on the appraisal to make this work. If not, oh well. I will be disappointed, but like you said. Its not like I need it. Just want it.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ShaggyZr2:
I understand what you are saying, but I did put more thought into it then you might think. I am still going to try to get a "second opinion" on the appraisal to make this work. If not, oh well. I will be disappointed, but like you said. Its not like I need it. Just want it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
From the sounds of it, if you had just banked your daily weed money, you would have saved enough to pay for the FJ in cash

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ree:
From the sounds of it, if you had just banked your daily weed money, you would have saved enough to pay for the FJ in cash </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Damn...that hurt. What have I ever done to you ree?

BTW...I DO NOT SMOKE WEED.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ShaggyZr2:
Damn...that hurt. What have I ever done to you ree?
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Nothing. In fact you seem like a really nice person. But you have to admit, you're also really good sport at taking a beating

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ree:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ShaggyZr2:
Damn...that hurt. What have I ever done to you ree?
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Nothing. In fact you seem like a really nice person. But you have to admit, you're also really good sport at taking a beating </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Hehe...you have no idea. You werent around for any of my "hazings"...notice it is plural. There have been a few (mostly deserved, but that is beside the point).

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ShaggyZr2:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
You don't need a new truck that bad. I'm honestly happy for you that the appraisal came in low.

The problem with that is that you would end up stacking debt. Since the truck won't last the 30 years, you'll acquire additional debt sometime in the future for another vehicle and still be making payments on this one and then again and then again. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I understand what you are saying, but I did put more thought into it then you might think. I am still going to try to get a "second opinion" on the appraisal to make this work. If not, oh well. I will be disappointed, but like you said. Its not like I need it. Just want it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>You're almost an adult, so you can obviously do what you want. But, financially, it's just not a good idea since you don't know what curves life has down the road.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
You're almost an adult, so you can obviously do what you want. But, financially, it's just not a good idea since you don't know what curves life has down the road. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Since when has "good idea" ever been a concern for me? Just trust me...I am not as stupid as I lead on.

there are other lenders.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Fubar:
there are other lenders. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>True, but a different lender doesn't make much of a difference if it is going to appraise at the same value. The lender is "seeing what he can do to make it work". I am staying hopeful. I suppose worst case I bring the s10 to Moab, and ONLY drive Lion's Back. Not sure it has many off-road miles left in it.