Sounds like that benz forum...

Huck, I must apologize. In my rush to respond to your post I forgot to ask a very important question.

Can you post links to the threads you were the most offended by. I wanna make sure I don't miss any of the good stuff.

Ken P. it doesn't take a backbone to be on a forum. You write of respect as if that word can be associated with a bunch of uncivil rantings on a forum. That's pretty amusing.

Zig, you're a real wordsmith.

Dan, it ain't about the whining, it's about someone offering some friendly advice. If it takes sack to be bored to tears by endless name calling and personal attacks, I must be a gelding.

Neo, gettin' messed with isn't what I'm talking about, no one's really landed hard on me yet at all so this isn't about thin skin on my part. What I've seen people write to and about other people is a pitiful statement on who they are. You for instance come off as just as you say, having fun, and lots of it, a great read every time. The bores that just hammer the crap out of people every time they get a chance are what I'm talking about.

CO Hummer, you really don't think I crave your acceptance do you?

Darth, it's not about thought, it's about the demonstrated lack of it. Again, no one insulted me, I'm just tired of having to mow through miles of the kiddie crap to get to the useful stuff here. It's not very entertaining after the billionth dork post.

MarineHawk, you're actually funny, sarcasm's a useful tool.

HummerJim, that's some good advice. I don't understand how the offroad thing correlates into liking what's going on here, but I get your drift.

Humrchic, you get it completely! Maybe Clinton's surgeon general had it right about some people needing to learn how to masturbate eh?

Grandman, I really hope you don't go. it'd be a bad day for the H3 forum if you did.

Sewie, you don't need to look far if that stuff entertains you. It's pretty rampant. If you really want to be entertained, check out the H3 chatroom. You wanna talk about offroading, forgeddaboudit. You wanna talk about H3s, forgeddaboudit. The definitely misnamed that chat room when they called it the H3 chatroom.

Anyhow, I'll really feel super bad if you guys don't like me, and my feelings will be hurt so bad, I'll be so lost without your acceptance.... WHOOYA!

Who's got the thin skin anyway?

Dood, you wasted at least a dozen good pad posts with that verbal diarrhea.

Whining bitch.

Translation: LOOK AT ME!!!!

Excellent! An intelligent troll! (And when I said "troll" I mean it in the most positive -- as in "one who brings entertainment" way )

And that folk, is exactly it. E N T E R T A I N M E N T

If you want info, facts, tips, install instructions, use the "FIND" button. I guarantee you, your question has been asked and asnwered at least a dozen times before in the past 3 years. Why? Because the H2 didn't change (materially) in 3 years. (Fact: the post Ken mentioned of my 'initiation', was the last original, previously-unasked H2 question )

Of course the H3 is different, but that's why everyone is kow-towing to F5Stop and others, for doing a great job of providing current and accurate info.

The rest of the time, this fine forum has become a real, living, honest, and most importantly imho, THE FUNNEST Hummer community in this world! (Thanks Jason! )

The question then, is why? Why do other Hummer forums seemed so dead, sterile, and down-right boring? The answer is because here, we have the... "potty mouth kiddies" who BOTHERED enough to invest hours and hours of their time to... POST -- period!!

You're right, this is your forum too. But remember, ask not what your (forum) can give to you, but what you can give to your (forum)...

How could anyone take your concerns seriously, if you yourself have NOT demonstrated that same generosity of your valuable time and effort, to be informative (check these "cyber snots" PAST posts if you doubt me), defensive (were you around when OTN or JU trolls were here attacking Hummers?), and most importantly (again) ENTERTAINING!

All for no money, nor for that matter, a simple thank you! Hell, if this forum was on TV, these fine folks would be raking in millions for providing reality-TV content! (Paul Sr of Orange County Chopper, anyone?).

In summary, do remember these simple facts:

1. The forum is for ENTERTAINMENT
2. GIVE (noobs, substitute "use FIND" ) before you ASK
3. FREEDOM of speech is your constitutional right
4. If your nice allatime, you're boring & a loser and NO ONE WILL LIKE YOU

So in the end, I just wanna say to all the 'ol timers (and those with at least 1,000 posts )...
<font size=100>THANK YOU!!</font> from the bottom of my entertained heart!

This is a privately owned forum, you have no rights here! :P

Well said H2Finally!!!

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That's an interesting turn of the worm if I've ever seen one, I'm serious, that IS entertaining.

Attention whore, really, looking back, you guys in particular are killin' me, really, stop, it's just too much! Oh God, somebody get me a respirator, I'm gonna pass out. YOU guys calling me an attention whore?!?!? And I thought you weren't funny. Man, I've gotta start wearing depends!

Smart, er, Alec, at least the other guys came up with an attempt at funny graphics they cut and pasted from their forum arsenal, long wordy responses, put a little effort into it. You illustrate my point quite well. Wipe your chin when you're done. (see, I can be funny too!)

H2 Finally, I think I did miss the boat here. I really thought that general topic forums would be that, and the H3 forum would be something else. Perhaps, just maybe, I need to go to one of the new schools, and learn how to read so that I can just figure this all out. So even though one utilizes search, and trys to find, one STILL has to wade through volumes of inanity to get something useful.

Back to my main point, and it's pretty well confirmed, this forum's got 5% to do with Hummer H3s, and 95% to do with special education, I mean special interest people. It seems to me, that immature, juvenile rants (my two short posts are considered rants while others have THOUSANDS of posts saying NOTHING) are being considered entertainment.

Ok, I'll bite, what's entertaining about the hacking, name calling, lewdness and rudeness? For something to be entertaining to me, it has to be well thought out, informative, have some value to it, otherwise, it's about as fun, satisfying, and nutritional as tofu flavored bubblegum.

I've seen posters on here offer zero value, all they do is check in (obviously 80 times a day) to see if it's time to call someone a name, tell them to **** off, autofellate on the forum so that someone thinks they're cute, ANYTHING but talk about H3s! They say that anyone that doesn't like it has thin skin. When they read something that doesn't fit in with their party hearty, be like us or **** off attitude, piss on you view of the world, that they're thin skinned and narrow minded.

I repeat, who's thin skinned? Who doesn't want anyone else to speak? Who wants everyone else in the world to think just like they do?

I think I understand.

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That's an interesting turn of the worm if I've ever seen one, I'm serious, that IS entertaining.

Attention whore, really, looking back, you guys in particular are killin' me, really, stop, it's just too much! Oh God, somebody get me a respirator, I'm gonna pass out. YOU guys calling me an attention whore?!?!? And I thought you weren't funny. Man, I've gotta start wearing depends!

Smart, er, Alec, at least the other guys came up with an attempt at funny graphics they cut and pasted from their forum arsenal, long wordy responses, put a little effort into it. You illustrate my point quite well. Wipe your chin when you're done. (see, I can be funny too!)

H2 Finally, I think I did miss the boat here. I really thought that general topic forums would be that, and the H3 forum would be something else. Perhaps, just maybe, I need to go to one of the new schools, and learn how to read so that I can just figure this all out. So even though one utilizes search, and trys to find, one STILL has to wade through volumes of inanity to get something useful.

Back to my main point, and it's pretty well confirmed, this forum's got 5% to do with Hummer H3s, and 95% to do with special education, I mean special interest people. It seems to me, that immature, juvenile rants (my two short posts are considered rants while others have THOUSANDS of posts saying NOTHING) are being considered entertainment.

Ok, I'll bite, what's entertaining about the hacking, name calling, lewdness and rudeness? For something to be entertaining to me, it has to be well thought out, informative, have some value to it, otherwise, it's about as fun, satisfying, and nutritional as tofu flavored bubblegum.

I've seen posters on here offer zero value, all they do is check in (obviously 80 times a day) to see if it's time to call someone a name, tell them to **** off, autofellate on the forum so that someone thinks they're cute, ANYTHING but talk about H3s! They say that anyone that doesn't like it has thin skin. When they read something that doesn't fit in with their party hearty, be like us or **** off attitude, piss on you view of the world, that they're thin skinned and narrow minded.

I repeat, who's thin skinned? Who doesn't want anyone else to speak? Who wants everyone else in the world to think just like they do?

I think I understand. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Just leave.

Huck, if you don't see how random posts of complete strangers in an internet forum about trucks, can cause such e-enragement to normally sane & mature successful adults who can afford Hummers, as entertaining, then, clearly you don't get it .

Too, rarely does the hackling started without cause (not saying never, but rare). If you care to follow it to the beginning, most are started as some idiotic comment -- answered as such, and continued in an escalating spiral of funnay. Or other times, they are often of some noobs who decided to take personal affront to the "noob-hazing", and sadly ending up crashing and burning. Then again, if YOU spent as much time here as those who call this forum home, you'd already know that .

They probably took it personally because it was meant personally.

Ok dokee H2Finally, I do take your point. I'll just read for awhile, maybe I'll understand this counter culture. It certainly is new to me, I've never witnessed people acting this way, it's all new to me.

I'm sitting here because it's my first night off the vicodin from my knee surgery just waitin' for the sun to come up. I can certainly see how people get addicted. Tomorrow's another day.

I'm sitting here because I'm in Canada (WORKING!! ) and winding down..

It's cool if you're willing to see my point. However, the objective is NOT to "just read", but jump right in and be part of the family! . You've never witnessed (real) people acting this way, because this is NOT the real world. It's the interweb, and it's entertainment -- THAT is my point exactly!

Btw, how was it meant personally, if one never ever meet, personally, prior? Get well soon and join us for a run sometimes!

Well if your driving an H 2 that may apply to you , this is the H3 section so affording an H3 is not really a point giving there pricing .

Mature ? some are , did you read the post on ages ?

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The H3 is by no means an expensive vehicle but with an average cost of purchase being $35K and up, they are not exactly cheap either. You have to have a decent job/income to really be able to afford one so I wouldn't say the statement doesn't apply.

Whatever. When in doubt on this forum, try to be as caustic as possible.

If I was poorly educated, broke, divorced, asset poor, unemployed, underemployed, non-functional, unfit, etc., I would have more time to waste and post thousands of worthless posts!

But some portion of the info on this forum is helpful for H3 owners and wannabe owners.


S.

I saw a Hummer internal marketing DVD, presented prior to the launch of the H3.
It had some interesting demographics, based upon Hummer's marketing research. Compared to H1 and H2 buyers, H3 buyers were forecast to be:
1. Better educated; at least 33% college graduates vs. 15% college graduate H1 and H2 buyers.
2. More self-assured, as opposed to caring what others think and status conscious.
3. Comfortable, yet lower income than H1/H2 buyers.
4. Younger and many more females.
5. More concerned with value for the dollar.
I had just traded my H3, for an H2 SUT, when I saw the DVD. Needless to say, I wasn't happy that research revealed that I'm most likely a poorly educated, older male, with low self-esteem, and more money than sense.
As I said, these are Hummer marketing conclusions, not mine; so don't flame me.

I dont seem to fit in the H 3 group then . I only had a 2 year degree , pretty much an ornery old red neck with a lot of real world knowledge but can hardly run a PC

hey that many more female part , does that mean we will get lucky more often LOLOL

Yeah. Forget about all the male ranting. More female posts, with pictures, please. Pretty please.

Huck,



SO.. you expect a Hummer forum to be boring and informative? Read H2Finally's post again- that was beautiful H.


People with Hummers have bought them with the good money they have earned with their talent and intelligence- and they have taken that money and plunked it down to buy the funnest most unique vehicles on the planet.

Hence, in this collaboration of individuals- you appear shocked that their gathering place is fun and entertaining.

Let's gander at one of your first posts shall we:


Now this indicates that you are well aware of the other forums out there.

i get dirty looks from Volvo wagons and i like it that way

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Dayum, you actually went back and read my posts. Now that's dedicated harrassment!

H2Finally talks TO people, not about 'em, and not down to them. Pretty good manners, and the effort is appreciated. Sinking to the lowest common denominator, particularly on the web, seems to be a hobby of some.

Today, I feel better. Drove over to a neighbor's house to check out an old still site from the prohibition days and scope out some giant ponderosa pine trunks for bear carvings. The knee feels like I've got gravel stuck in it but what the hell. Top open, windows down, 150' tall trees all around, blue sky, the horses, puppies, chickens, cows, hawks. Life it good. I'm thinking late night posting while breaking off of heavy duty pain killers was not a good idea. Seems like I touched a nerve or ten.

Sorry to offend you folks and interrupt your fun. That is all.

Don't apologize, it was about to get good until H2F stepped in. BTW, you'd be amazed at just how many of us have met face-to-face and how many sarcastic inside jokes are going on right in front of your face. Here's one coming now: H2F, get back to work!!!

It doesn't bother me in fact it makes me feel young again. There is a lot of good H-3 stuff on this board compared with the few others. Most 4x4 boards are a lot like this. So I keep hoping maybe some of these youngsters will invite me to go with them, I could be the guide. We could get one of the soccer mom's to be my chaperon.

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Dayum, you actually went back and read my posts. Now that's dedicated harrassment!

H2Finally talks TO people, not about 'em, and not down to them. Pretty good manners, and the effort is appreciated. Sinking to the lowest common denominator, particularly on the web, seems to be a hobby of some.

Today, I feel better. Drove over to a neighbor's house to check out an old still site from the prohibition days and scope out some giant ponderosa pine trunks for bear carvings. The knee feels like I've got gravel stuck in it but what the hell. Top open, windows down, 150' tall trees all around, blue sky, the horses, puppies, chickens, cows, hawks. Life it good. I'm thinking late night posting while breaking off of heavy duty pain killers was not a good idea. Seems like I touched a nerve or ten.

Sorry to offend you folks and interrupt your fun. That is all. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good boy, I knew you would come around.

Now go get that foresaken pebble out of your knee and have fun......Poo Poo Breath.

Thanks for the patience.

I know this is off topic, but any tips on dealing with the quagmire of dealing with Blue Shield would be good. I swear, they're not a medical insurance company, they're just a bunch of Dave Slaters saying "No, No, No, No, No, No" You can't BELIEVE things they try to weasel out of every single thing they can. I never hear 'em complaining when they get the $14k a year from me and the company! Twenty one years, I never went to the doctor and paid premiums, now that I'm breaking down from the years of work, I'm treated like some low life panhandler. It's enough to make one go postal.

Huck - I'm going through the same thing with Blue Cross PPO right now. I had the hospital try to bill me $9K directly because of BC's billing errors. This was in May and they still haven't figured it out. The one thing I've learned is to document EVERYTHING!!! Keep all your EOB's handy, get names of everyone you talk to, etc. And then just keep hounding them.

off topic: Huck BB62 - Thanks for the heads-up on Blue Shield. I have this insurance but so far no problems. But my claims have only been a few hundred bucks so far.

S.

Is it ok to post bewbies now?

I would think so!

I really didn't think much of this thread until I was helping my 14 year old God daughter with her geometry while browzing the Elcova H3 forum photo section of this site, looking for add-ons (like the XTC light bar)for my new black H3.It was then I noticed her peering over to see what I was doing and she commented on the H3 rims in a photo. It was then it really hit home that avitars showing flames shooting out of a woman's butt and cartoons of a woman's bust flopping around, etc. is not the kind of thing I would be comfy with in a family setting or even my kind of friends. It just had not occurred to me until that moment that this site will be something I will have to hide from people and friends in order to get needed information from other actual H3 users. But if this is what the majority wants and approves of I guess I'll have to respect that. I am a newbee here and really need the info on what is a practical self-install and what is not, and I have yet to come across an H3 site with people as knowledgeable as some of you are. Don't be upset; I don't expect the exotic avitars to dissappear, but felt I should give my honest opinion. Like it was forstated; no one is twisting my arm to be here. It is my choice until I decide to move on.