it's all about mods you can take a stock h2 like my buddy has and a ruby like my other buddy has put them to the test the ruby will take the test better on most things but its built for that but my heavly modified jeep cj7 will beat the pants off both the ruby and the h2 but if i want to go on a road trip or anywhere else I want to go in the h2 I am 100% jeep guy for off road it's not fun to take a long drive and this is for allen jp mag. is by petersen's the same mag. that named the lexus the 4x4 of the year. and put the ruby and h2 low on the list you and i know that a h2 and ruby would spank the lexus offroad so its not to biased

Ya know what guys....

I've got a special fishing rod/reel that is called a "jig-stick". It's long and can really hurl a jig way the heck out there. When using this rod I can cover larger areas and really produce strikes by dragging that lure through more water. This rod is awesome and I love to hurl lures/jigs with it. It's the best, it's the best, it's the best!!!

But it doesn't work worth a damn for trolling, you don't want to hook up with a 60 pound tuna on it...and you certainly wouldn't use it for deep-rock fishing. Ya know what I mean?

This IS an H2 forum, most of the people here are into H2's, have H2's are come to discuss H2's. I don't mind a bit of contrasting....but there has to be a point when it's just offensive to members who come here to chat.

Allright, I've had enough. As SteveR stated:
"This IS an H2 forum, most of the people here are into H2's, have H2's are come to discuss H2's. I don't mind a bit of contrasting....but there has to be a point when it's just offensive to members who come here to chat."

Thank god someone has finally said what I have been thinking for the past month and a half ever since the jeepers and rover guys came over and started posting. I am so sick and tired of having to hear "how great modified jeeps are" or how "RR or D2's kick the H2's ass in off-roading" and listen to the daily comparisons that go on between the H2 and every other off-road vehicle and how much the H2 sucks and how great everything else is. I mean ****, if I really wanted the baddest off-road vehicle that would kick the **** out of every other vehicle discussed and pictured here, I would just call up Avalanche Engineering and have them build me their Zero G and put 2 1/2 ton Rockwells with beadlocked 44" Boggers. Then I could "out" off-road all you guys who have no interest in the H2 but must babble on a daily basis how great your rigs are. I would truly appreciate Jason creating a new discussion board titled "Other Vehicles and H2 Comparisons" where you guys could go and discuss all the wonderful merits of the other makes and models of off-road vehicles.

*member of the "No Hummer Krew"*

OH, I'm sorry... Jason has already done that in the "Off Topic" Section of the Forum. There are two forums titled: "Off-Roading" and "Other Off-Roading Vehicles"... I would kindly appreciate the respective posters of such topics and information to use these two forums and leave the current forum you are in: "General H2 Discussion" alone so that we may use it for it's intended purpose... discussing H2's...

*member of the "No Hummer Krew"*

well thats a good point...but look back at where this thread started.

it may be a good idea for jason to put a few more rules other then the be-respectful rule on the sign up board.

one thing that comparisons do is start dialogue that makes people validate there opinions, and those valdating points offer a good insight into what it seams many people here are just starting out doing, using there trucks off-road

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Allen

H2 Veteran
posted February 06, 2003 04:30 PM
Ok, I just read March edition of JP magazine...H2 get trashed by the writer of JP magazine. They say Rubicon wins in hill climbing ability, handling, price. H2 wins in sand because of the powerful engine. Any thoughts? Has anyone 4 wheeled with a Ruby yet? if so, how did the H2 do. I know this must be a biased article.
Posts: 48 | From: Valencia,CA,USA | Registered: November 26, 2002 <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Musky:the thinking mans fish

Dirt is for playing roads are for getting there

Muskyman-

I understand this and can appreciate informative dialogue and "though-provoking discussion" however, I have noticed in recent visits to the H2 Forum, more and more posts have become centered around the lack of off-road ability of the H2 and the seeminly boundless/limitless off-road ability of other's vehicles. I understand exhuberance and pride when discussing one's vehicle especially when it is a vehicle that has been designed and built for a specific purpose (i.e. rockcrawling, mud bogging, trail running, etc.) but, let us not forget, when one customizes a vehicle to suit such a specific purpose, one must sacrifice some of the onroad capabilities that makes it wonderful as a daily driver. The H2 manages to do a very good job combining the best of both worlds.

-HUMMERDOGG

*member of the "No Hummer Krew"*

Well exuse me Musky...what ever that means. I thought it was ok to post a legitimate question and invite feedback. The bottom line is this: If you don't want to read the responses to a question...then don't. If you think there are too many responses...then don't read them. If the thread is something your not interested in...then don't read them. By asking my legitimate question I was sincerely interested in what some of the other 4x4 experts of the forum thought. I am sorry for inciting such a huge offensive response that makes some members of this forum upset. Again, I thought this forum was to learn new things about our H2's, meet nice people that share a common interest. Maybe I was wrong.

when you are the proverbial stock king of the hill (not counting the H1, Defender or G-Wagon) the rest feel compelled to take shots at you. they cant help it. do any of u feel compelled to go to Rover or Jeep boards and talk about how the H2 can out wheel any of those? of course not. why not? because u know u have the best vehicle in its class...


that said, i enjoy the comparisons. i agree with allen if u dont want to read them then dont click on them.

Secondly, Mushky...maybe you should mind Jasons rule about being respectful. Your comment was rude.

Firebreather- God, you hit the nail on the head... I have never felt compelled to do this...

and Allen-

I was not throwing barbs in your direction... Merely commenting on the direction that I feel the recent posts have been going and displaying my dissatisfaction of such...

-Hummerdogg

*member of the "No Hummer Krew"*

Hummerdog - No offense taken. I see alot of post that are simply ridiculous. I choose not to read them. Simple.

allen,

go back and quote what I said was wrong?,or disrespectful?

all I did was show hummerdogg that this wasent a thread started by a rovertroll invading jeep lover.

either lay off the caffiene or counter self medcicate with vallium because you seam wound pretty tight

Musky:the thinking mans fish

Dirt is for playing roads are for getting there

Wow....I'm so confused...

I think what it comes down to is this: We come here to discuss, relate and ENJOY the fellowship of owning an H2 or having an interest in eventually owning an H2.

Yeah...knowing what the H2 isn't and knowing about other vehicles can be interesting...but it's getting to the point where some peoples interest seem to be all about making sure we (the H2 forum) don't feel too good about our H2's.

Musky, your an interesting guy and certainly a wealth of information....but it would seem as though your purpose here is to make certain none of us are too impressed with our Hummers.
There are 3 things I'd like to point out:

1) Most of us here just laid down $60,000 dollars and took a gutsy chance on buying a first-year production vehicle. It's enough that the media and tree-huggers are on our asses and other people seem compelled to voice their disapproval....that we don't need to come together on this forum and feel bad here too.

2) The Hummer H2 DAMN WELL IS an amazing vehicle. It comes stock with huge tires, excellent clearance, great geometric design, an awesome 4x4 system, traction control, underside protetion, rear-locker and a host of other great features. The stock LR's freakin' blow! They have less clearance, their butts hang wayyyy past the rear axle and drag, they weigh as much as the H2, have NO rear locker and come with medium-sized road tires. They plummet in value, are poorly built, top-heavy and a complete class well below our bad-ass rigs. Your Pig-Scout is bad-ass, but it probably doesn't have 2% the luxury, comfort and city-handling the H2's have...nor will it carry your whole family...for that matter it's probably a trailered vehicle only. I don't know...and I don't mean to be rude...but I don't care.

3) THIS IS AN H2 FORUM

Snap-crackle-pop goes/went Steve...sorry 'bout that. I'm openly partial for blame....I asked lots of questions and paved some of the way. I appreciate your input about the tires and other performance issues....but I'd appreciate if you'd contribute to the positive aspects of the H2 from time to time to offset what seems to be a belittling theme.

what I mean is.....you've got to break-free from this wet-blanket thing your casting. Hope you understand...and I think you do.

Allen:

I'm confused. Musky was just pointing out that HE didn't start this particular comparison thread. In my (not so) humble opinion, he's been nothing but respectful of the members of this forum, on this forum. Not sure why we're all jumping down his throat here.

And a muskie (aka musky) is a HUGE fish...go here to take a look:

http://www.muskiefishing.com/

Kelley

Awwww. Ok. Thank you for clearing it up. But I think Steve sees what I saw in his reply. But oh well, I am going to go have some for caffeine so I can get really wound up and attack someone else...just kidding

Well, we know how tightly strung you So. Cal types are!

Kelley

Muskyman, Brainfriend, Jmoore, and the rest of you Discos,(carters puppets). Like a big badge for your forum, about as soon as you post here you run back there and post your (pony-up) challenges. Now--flexing a little monitor muscle--as Musky put it over there, I don't give a **** about what you drive, where you drive it, or how you modify it. You Boys&Girls need to move on. As far is I'm concerned, You have worn out your welcome. I've read every post about Hummers at your site. The Knowledge you have of these vehicles is miniscule at best, and you bring nothing to this forum but discontent because of it.

this is for steve r and hummerdog my post was not to slam the h2 or to say mines better than yours but until both of you go off roading with both the ruby and the h2 and see for yourself if im not mistaken the topic was rubicon vs.H2 so i dont think im out of line on this topic matter of fact both you guys pissed me off that was down right disrespectfull so both of you can take your great big h2 turn them clock wise no no counter clock wise and stuff them both up your asses. MY COMMENT TO STEVE AND HUMMERDOG ARE NOT MENT FOR ANY OTHER RESPECTED H2 OWNER THANK YOU .

u go there boy

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jeepsrule:
my heavly modified jeep cj7 will beat the pants off both the ruby and the h2
AND THEN YOU POST:
my post was not to slam the h2 or to say mines better than yours
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Gee....if that isn't the very essence of a two-faced contradicting absurd comment...then what is??? YOU my friend should run for public office...cause you got the right stuff!! You are in dire need of a strong laxative....cause your full of it!

My comments weren't aimed at you JeepsFule, so why don't you take it down a notch. While your solution to everything may involve exploring the deeper rectal cavities of other people...I can assure you that it's you who....ah, nevermind...I don't need another flame-war.

I'm sorry if your not feeling the love....but this forum has seen more then its share of oppressive visitors who, by various approaches, are here only to solicit the merits of their own brand preference and make certain we are reminded that the H2 ain't worth a penny in a dime store.

WTF do you think you're doing walking into an H2 Forum with a name like Jeepsrule? What kind of a warm reception do you expect...especially with your comments. All you do is throw a bit of sugar on the H2 before you slam it. I don't represent the entire forum....but I'm guessing your absence would go unnoticed. As they say in Amityville: GET OUT!

My new reply to posts containing all of this H2 vs XX, or "my XX is better than your H2 because..." is:

Who Cares?

This is an H2 forum. Its here so H2 fans can come here and enjoy their vehicle with other H2 fans. Its not here for the purpose of H2 fans to defend their position of liking/owning the H2.

There are plenty of other forums for people who like other brands, jeepsunlimited.com & discoweb.org to name a couple.

Its like repeatedly going to a restaraunt you don't like, just to complain about the food over and over. I don't get it...

- Dan

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SUT on order - 17 months to go!
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Here's an idea: instead of bitching about the thread, just ignore it. Threads like this die out quick when people stop responding.

Thanks, Mike. Words well spoken (written?).

IGNORE, IGNORE, IGNORE.

I know it's very tempting, and I've more than once wanted to respond with my own opinion (it burns me up) but we've GOT to just ignore.

I know that by just writing this, I am not toally ignoring, but Mike nailed it on the head!

Hey, jeepsrule...

Shut the f*ck up.

You have got to be kidding me. If you look at any of my posts, I am one of the most cordial guys here. Yes, as you alluded to, the post was "h2 vs. rubicon"... Funny thing is, this was your response:

"but my heavly modified jeep cj7 will beat the pants off both the ruby and the h2"

who gives a **** if your "heavily modified jeep cj7" can beat the pants off the H2 or Rubicon? My Avalanche Engineered Rock Crawler can kick the **** out of your "heavily modified jeep cj7"...

All you have done since you've been here is post 3 times: 1)listing your two jeep cj7's, 2)talk **** about how great one of them is, and 3)then throw barbs at SteveR and me. I would suggest you refrain from issueing such pointed attacks since mine was not directed solely at you nor mentioned you by name.

-Hummerdogg

*member of the "No Hummer Krew"*

Like it has bben said before - Ignore the ignorant...like jeepsrule and Musky ect.

hey hummerdogg
you guys started this **** i posted on feb.12at9:18am and the next 2 post were steve and you saying you had enough i did not come to this fourm to start any **** i came to learn more about the hummer since my buddy doesnt know a hole lot about his but all i have learned is your an ******* .but anyway it said rubicon vs h2 and i said its all about the mods.and it truly is you could modified a geo metro to out offroad a ruby and a h2if you try hard enough dude if you dont like me thats fine im not here to make you my best friend or am i here to make you want to run me over and im sorry if you guys took my first post wrong all im trying to say its all about mods and I think even you and i can agree with what sounds like a kick ass rockcrawler you have. true off road 4x4 are built not bought. you should post some pics so everyone can see this bad boy

I'm 100% with H-dogg on this call.

We used to congregate here and chat about our H2's. Lately it's been about hearing how other brands could kick our butts and constant reassurance that we've got lousy vehicles that aren't worth a damn.

I'm mean...seriously, what kind of an idiot comes onto a Hummer forum with a username like "jeepsrule". I suppose you visit a rapper forum with a name like "whitesrule". You follow it up with offensive statements and then wonder why your taking heat.

Most of us have had jeeps and many still do. Thing is...in case you haven't picked up on this...this is a Hummer H2 forum.

As I've said before, we've just paid about $60,000 and bought a new vehicle in its first year of production. We're happy with them and enjoy them...we don't need to come here to hear about how they suck as compared to other vehicles. Dude: your a weed in my pumpkin patch.

hey steve i was trying to be nice if you read my last post you would have seen that you took my first post all wrong im not going to apologize for somthing you dont understand

Hey Jeepsrule,

Maybe I took your post the wrong way and I would have seen that you were trying to be nice in your next post...and you shouldn't have to apologize for something I didn't understand.

M'kay....m'kay

My questions are still pertinent...even though I see your backing down a bit and trying to mesh. Let's just leave it at "whatever"