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Jeep Wranglers interior was never meant to be flashy or upscale. It is meant to be very user friendl and simple. Hell, Chevy1500 pickups have a better interior but I'm not going to buy a 4 door jeep to impress my clients here at work with, and that seems to be where I and others dont see eye to eye. I would buy it for the trail aspect, and from my experience with other H3's on the trail, slim little $150.00 budget boost and tires, the JK will be walking circles around the H3.......

Now, Angie and I went and looked at H3's about a month ago here in Castle Rock to see if they had any incentives or if we could get a good deal.............She LOVES and LOVED the H3 but we couldnt really get them to work with us much.......

I agree that your interior is superior.......But not to start much more:D , but afterwards we went and looked at the Brand New Cherokee's......

SHE IS NOT A JEEP PERSON, and she thought the interior was much more refined and "nicer" then the H3.........sooooooooo, maybe, just maybe jeep knows what they are doing.......because I myself, like the utilitarian style of the Wrangler INterior......its not so ****ing cute!

I would buy the jeep for these simple facts:

The Sway-Bar disconnect from inside (This is awesome)

Ease and affordibility in lifting and modifying

Heavy duty Hybrid 44 axles

Lockers front and rear

4:1 Ratio

Great Transfer Case

Removable Top

Doors COME OFF

Front window FOLDS DOWN

Fenders ARE REMOVABLE FOR THE TRAIL

Underneath STOCK SKIDS ARE NICE

DIESEL MODEL WILL BE HERE IN 08.......!!!!!!!!!!!









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I have never been on a trail to date and seen a Land Rover struggle. They seem to do well out here........Thers is Plenty of aftermarket support, it's just damn expensive!

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Here is your jeep.
:jump:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...58493841477856


nice fake one in that pic you posted

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Wow! That just does one thing...

Suck! I feel bad for the owner. That will cost a few dollars to repair.

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Well, I've owned and built 3 different TJ's (one Rubicon 2 door) before I bought an H3 adv/lux. The H3 is a nicer rig no doubt. It doesn't rattle, the interior is way beyond what a wrangler offers. I've been following the JK though.

Trail rides aside, If rockcrawling ( a fast growing sport) is your thing, you'd best go the JK. The JK (rubi ed.) was flattly designed for this in mind. The jeep engineers listened to the jeep owner's thoughts on how to make the TJ better and they really did a great job on the JK. You'll never see an H3 make it through the Hammer's in JV. You'll see tons of JKs there in no time flat. With a simple swap of coils (4 lift) and shocks basically on the JK you can stuff in 37" tires! Jeeps are easier to re-gear (and find gears) for those tires too! There's other things, nothing really hangs below the frame rails now on JKs, the gas tank has been relocated, frame is even stronger now. Longer control arms will help it climb and articulate much better than the TJ did. Front locker too.

However, if you go JK, you'll never get the same ride of an IFS front rig, and you'll never see a wrangler with leather from the factory! :D The H3 is a very capable 4x4, but just isn't designed with rockcrawling (Hammer's style) in mind, even with a lift. Its wider, longer and the front diff (lacking a locker too) just isn't strong enough in my opinion for that kind of abuse. I can't imagine lifting a H3 onto 37" tires, and trying to do heavy rockcrawling, that front diff will pop fairly easy, and easier if you regear (pinion will get weak with a regear due to size). Throw in a front locker and those 37" tires, i'd bet it busts on the first foot tall rock you try to climb. It wasn't designed for that. They may solve this with the H3 alpha from what others are saying though.

I'll never part with my H3 (except for an alpha!). Its just too nice of a ride, no rattles, nice interior and still plenty capable to get me through nasty snowy/icy roads. It beats the crap out of any landrover, yota, BMW, Porche, lexus, Merc, and even jeep grand! But in the very serious rockcrawling world, you can't beat a Wrangler, you just don't get some of the creature features like leather and the buff hummer look. I also can't stand the new fenders on the JK. Lost on the retro look I guess.

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Here ya go, for those that seem somewhat confused on the specs of the 2.

http://www.edmunds.com/new/2007/jeep/wrangler/100782109/VehicleComparison;jsessionid=FdBMQ1NQBvX4Q6J3F47pC p0VFWbFJlJRXPZhC3ZxLGZC7QtvWy6f!1259065661?basesty leid=100782109&styleid=100761083&styleid=100688147 &maxvehicles=5&refid=&op=3&tab=specs

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dammmmmnnnnn, I like you....Thanks for the reading:beerchug:

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Nice avatar!:excited:

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if you wanna go old school military style get the heep , if you want new-guard style get the HUMMER :beerchug:

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Moon, are you certain the door do come off on the 4 door like the TJ did?

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Well I have been trying to avoid the subject for many years but now I have to come clean right here on this Hummer Forum...I'm your Daddy

:OWNED:

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Aww, I think he's in love! :clapping:

Anyway, any moron who picks the a Jeep over the H3... :twak: If you want a rock crawler, save yourself some money, and go buy an old or already mod'd Jeep. There are PLENTY to go around... :D

And there is NO way the Grand Cherokee has a better interior than the H3. The rear seat is a great example. It's like a park bench. And forget about putting anything in there, the roof is too slanted.

But this is off topic. Back on topic, I believe I need to go drive a new Wrangler to see what it's really like. My prediction is it will ride like crap, and no matter how good it is on the trail, it's on-road performance will make it extremely unfriendly. A Hummer is designed to mix the best of both worlds, and that's the way I like it. It's a more awesome trail rig in that respect because it is the all-in-one. Sure, you compromise somewhere, but you come out with a great all around package. You can get there comfortably, go just about anywhere with comfy leather seats, a great sound system, lots of room for junk, and then point home and have a very composed, easy to drive vehicle on the highway. No loud noise, bouncy suspension, etc.

And no one will follow you expecting you're the MC some gay pride parade!:jump:

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I would like to have them both........someday! :jump:

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Has anyone posted the same question on the Jeep Forum. If so, how long has the thread lasted? If it lasted more than a day, how many intelligent replies were added versus how many obscene comments by Jeep owners on that Forum?:jump:

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There was one. I saw it for a total of 38 seconds and it was deleted. The author was also banned.:giggling:

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:giggling:

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Hey dicwad, I said "she" liked the interior better.........:fdance:

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Yes, they come off the front and the rear actually:beerchug:

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Too bad you're stupid and your prediction will be wrong.

The JK rides just as good as or better than the H3.

Too bad so many speak from their ass and not from experience.

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Very certain they come of. And come off very easily.

There's even a little access panel to unplug the wiring harness so that when the doors are off you don't see anything exposed.

Now, the question is. Who is going to be the first person to come up with something to "plug" into the window wiring harness to work something while the doors are off.;)

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Thanks to those that posted useful information. I am sorry that some of you saw this as a worthless question. If you are interested in a certain vehicle why would you not go to a forum to get opinions on it from people that actually own it. I feel sorry to those that felt threatened by my asking an opinion.....

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Heehee...

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Not threatened at all. It was a good question and sparked some spirited debate.:beerchug:

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They are 2 different vehicles.

If I could have both I would love to have a 4-door JK Rubicon and my H3.

I am sure with the front locker, live axle and sway dissconnect the JK would do better in extreame articulation situations. The 4-dr JK wheel base is 116" ( i think) which is pretty long but should be better on the hwy. The JK with a plastic hard top will be noisyer on the hwy for sure (Man I'm getting old) The Jeep is still a Jeep.

I just got back from a 5-day camping trip in the Nevada desert and mountains and am very glad I was in the H3. Great off road and Great mileage and cruising speed even when fully loaded.

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This is a great thread. I'm actually in the same boat trying to make some decisions between a 4 door JK, H3, or a ummm GTO.

I used to have a 00 WJ limited V8 4x4 and loved the thing. The interior was nice and it had all the bells and whistles. My wife ended up driving it as her daily driver until 04 when gas prices jumped way up. It then found a new home.

Jump forward 2 years and I'm driving a 01 chevy s-10 xtreme as my daily driver. I miss having the SUV and I have adjusted and accepted the gas prices now. I also miss being able to go offroad in an instant or even tow something like a small trailer. This has me looking at the H3 and JK.

Now the GTO is just a fun car with a very nice interior. My wife and I test drove one 3 weeks ago and it was a blast with that 6.0L V8. I wouldn't get the space, towing capability, safe feeling of sitting up high, or being able to go off-road, but I'd have a smile on my face everytime I lay into the gas.

Decisions, decisions.... I'm still a bit off on making a firm decision. I need tax season to come and go first.

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actually, I think it will do better in all off-road situations.

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The JK Ultd Rubicon is going to be awesome offroad. Completely stock, it has so many features the H3 lacks and many of its specs are better than the H3. But even the factory Rubicon has smaller tires, smaller breakover angle (5* less), wider turning circle than the H3 (by 4 ft) and less low-end torque. Won't matter 9 times out of 10, but there's always that 1 out 10 ...

Personally, I want both in my garage :D

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it will be sweet :)

maybe find a wrecked one and get the parts for a sfa H3 , solid front axle and both lockers all the running gear , if i could just get a diesel ;) i would build my own sfa alpha :p

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You might have to. I'm beginning to wonder if GM ever will.

It doesn't have to be SFA, it would be ideal, but there are ways to make an IFS that is stronger and that will handle a front locker. It's just economics.

Look at Jeep's ultimate concept vehicle, the Hurricane. Fully independent all the way around.

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Diesel you might see in one of the Hummers:D , solid axle, I doubt it:D as with the front locker.:D

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My tenent has a Heep and he hates it. Had it 6 months and its been in the dealer more than on the road. Electrical and misc engine issues...:popcorn:
Get the H3!!!

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Me too. My jeep has been in the shop prob 6,734 times and counting.

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