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sltbluh3 02-20-2006 06:59 PM

add me to list both sides are cracked

NM H3 02-20-2006 07:03 PM

Driver side is cracked here too.

UNOMYFLO 02-21-2006 12:38 AM

2 days ago I was fine I have ben looking at them.

We had a cold snap here in GA mid 20's and bam today I saw the drivers side cracked...looks the same as in all the pics posted same angle length everything.

I bet those in super warm climate dont have the problem. I think the front of both rails are installed under stress when the temp fluctuates and the plastic expands and contracts that area is obviously the weakest link.

I have a call into the HUMMER Manager in Jax and he didnt know about the problem but now he does..

I will wait for both a pillars and bot side rails and have them do all 4 at once.

M

f5fstop 02-21-2006 07:50 AM

I talked with my dealer yesterday, scheduling a trip into the dealership today (new decoder motor ). He had never heard of the PI on the side roof rails, just stated they were backordered and not sure when he would get them in.
I guess even in the Detroit area, the customers have to educate the dealers on what bulletins and PIs are in the system for the vehicle.

wcm4804 02-21-2006 10:44 AM

Slap some 3M sealer on it till may...

Ipedog 02-21-2006 04:11 PM

I'm joining the club!
Checked last night and the drivers side is cracked. Didn't check pass side, but it probably is too. Both will get replaced under warranty anyway...

hot4u 02-27-2006 10:37 PM

Count me in my H3 is cracked on the drivers side also. The only problem so far I'll just wait for thr fix

socalH3 02-28-2006 04:24 AM

Add another one to the list. Anyone else getting a loud buzzing noise since the crack? It seems to only happen when there is a strong cross wind and your traveling about 60-70mph. My local dealer tried a silcone temp fix. Didn't work and now I have silicon residue bordering the A-pillers. As for the warmer climate owners not having this issue, not the case. I live in San Diego, my H3 has never seen cold.

yat74 02-28-2006 03:37 PM

Cracked here, both sides in front

fourfourto 02-28-2006 08:42 PM

Just talked to dealer .All old style rails were sent back and not to be installed.They said I will get a notice in the mail similar to the one on the rear washer pump.(they replaced that today)Also fixed loose taillight.rotated tires oil change I got a tahoe as a loaner .
My next oil change will be around May hopefully they have the new rails in by then ,the service guy(nice guys over at ramp)said the rails will be replaced with complete sets.

UNOMYFLO 03-02-2006 08:01 PM

80 degrees in SE GA today was 37 3 days ago.

well guess what these are cracking due to expanding and contracting.

last week the gap where the crack is ws 1/4" perhaps more.

today I looked at it and guess what the gap is less than an 1/8" to the point I cant even see the crack the expansion has pressed the gap in the crack together and the crack is now under the top of the a=pillar trim piece.

no wondeer they are all cracking once the mounting bolts are tightened down and the piece expands the area cracks and we all have the same area once it gets hot the piece gets 1/4" longer.....

was very surprised to see this I had no idea the plastic would shrink and grow that much it all makes sense now...perhaps crappy plastic, they must be re tooling them with a harder durometer plastic to keep the shrinking and expansion down or at least I hope they are...if not (if they used the same plastic it will keep happening)

Oh and the gap on my pass side was always a bit tighter cold or hot...with it being so hot today the 2 parts damn near were touching eachother........


with the temp fluctuating so much here it was very noticable...looks like the inside of the top rails were bowed up off the roof a bit also.

****ty plastic IMO

UNO

J6Niner 03-05-2006 11:24 AM

Both rails cracked here also. Other than looking terrible, has anyone noticed any problems (ie leaks, etc) caused by the cracks???

f5fstop 03-05-2006 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by J6Niner:
Both rails cracked here also. Other than looking terrible, has anyone noticed any problems (ie leaks, etc) caused by the cracks???

As been stated many times, there is no problem with water leaks, these rails are not water tight and not designed to prevent any water intrusion into the vehicle. In fact, they make one of the best places to run wires from one end of the roof to another end.

Mike E 03-05-2006 01:47 PM

Both are cracked on mine as well. Another trip to the dealer. I'm glad they're less than a mile from the house!

superior_H3 07-31-2006 05:16 AM

Re: news on the cracking plasitc trim
 
Just noticed mine has officially cracked. :eek:

HIHUMMER 07-31-2006 05:38 AM

Re: news on the cracking plasitc trim
 
Made me look...mine's cracked on the passenger side.:( :mad:

ziemann 07-31-2006 06:01 AM

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Yep, drivers side, here....

Lets just think of it as "a character flaw"....

:D

The Green Lantern 07-31-2006 06:05 AM

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1 Attachment(s)
here's a pic of the new trim.

HIHUMMER 07-31-2006 01:01 PM

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Trim colors don't match now. Guess when I get mine fixed I'll just have to Line-X it.;)

Agriv8r 07-31-2006 03:51 PM

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linex:D

marin8703 07-31-2006 04:27 PM

Re: news on the cracking plasitc trim
 
mine were cracked and i got them changed, but there is still a 1/4 inch gap between the two pieces. I got them changed about 3 weeks ago, the new ones were already shipping, but I think they stuck me with the old version ones, or they put them on wrong.:mad:

humdoug 07-31-2006 05:14 PM

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Does anyone know the actual replacement part numbers?

yat74 07-31-2006 05:26 PM

Re: news on the cracking plasitc trim
 
Both my roof rails are cracked in that area too. I brought the rig in for an oil change last week and had asked to have the rails ordered to have the work done at the same time. I got the GM shuffle instead, I told them that both my roof rails are cracked and needed to be changed out. From the looks of it they only removed the front pillar molding around the windshield and replaced the one missing screw cover on my marker lights. Both roof rails are still cracked and the the molding around the windshield looks worse then when I first took it in. This tells me they either didn't order the parts or they have no idea what they are doing or what a roof rail is, why do they lie its so frustrating....Now I'm pissed :mad:. Now I have to go back and hold their hand to make sure the work gets done.

yat74 07-31-2006 05:27 PM

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Yes Part Numbers would be a big help...... anyone....:)

The Green Lantern 07-31-2006 05:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yat74
Yes Part Numbers would be a big help...... anyone....:)



Old part # - left/right - 15286618 & 15286619

New replacement part # left/right - 15905532 & 15905533

f5fstop 07-31-2006 05:59 PM

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Tell the ignorant dealer to read the bulletins GM publishes:

Subject: Roof Rack Rail Cracked/Poor Fit (Replace Roof Rack Rail) #06-08-67-008 - (06/23/2006)



Models: 2006 HUMMER H3




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Condition
Some customers may comment that the left or right side windshield molding does not fit properly at the roof rack rail or that the rail has a crack in it.

Correction
Replace the roof rack rail. Refer to Luggage Carrier Replacement in SI.

Parts Information
Part Number
Description
Qty

15905532
Rail Asm Luggage Carrier (Left)
1

15905533
Rail Asm Luggage Carrier (Right)
1

11569959
Bolt
7 Per Side (One Per Package)


Warranty Information
For vehicles repaired under warranty, use:

Labor Operation
Description
Labor Time

B9795*
Replace Left Roof Rack Rail
0.4 hr

B9796*
Replace Right Roof Rack Rail
0.4 hr

*This labor operation is for bulletin use only. It will not be published in the Labor Time Guide.

fourfourto 07-31-2006 09:08 PM

Re: news on the cracking plasitc trim
 
Mine are in.:D No problem at the dealer
Having the dealer install them on friday along with the jack and a inspection.
A year goes fast :D 16,600 miles
Hope I get a good loaner for the day:cool:

humdoug 07-31-2006 09:26 PM

Re: news on the cracking plasitc trim
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by f5fstop
Tell the ignorant dealer to read the bulletins GM publishes:

Subject: Roof Rack Rail Cracked/Poor Fit (Replace Roof Rack Rail) #06-08-67-008 - (06/23/2006)



Models: 2006 HUMMER H3




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Condition
Some customers may comment that the left or right side windshield molding does not fit properly at the roof rack rail or that the rail has a crack in it.

Correction
Replace the roof rack rail. Refer to Luggage Carrier Replacement in SI.

Parts Information
Part Number
Description
Qty

15905532
Rail Asm Luggage Carrier (Left)
1

15905533
Rail Asm Luggage Carrier (Right)
1

11569959
Bolt
7 Per Side (One Per Package)


Warranty Information
For vehicles repaired under warranty, use:

Labor Operation
Description
Labor Time

B9795*
Replace Left Roof Rack Rail
0.4 hr

B9796*
Replace Right Roof Rack Rail
0.4 hr

*This labor operation is for bulletin use only. It will not be published in the Labor Time Guide.


The dealer is telling me the above parts numbers are for the 2007 H3. 2006 has different numbers. They have been wrong before and can be this time also.

PackerFever 08-01-2006 08:15 PM

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I called MedVed in Denver today and they said that there is really no recall and theat they were just replacing them with the same part since GM has not done anything since they said the parts would be out in May. I reminded him that he got that info from me and tht I now have the part numbers and the GM Bulletin. He said oh let me look. He then entered in the part numbers that FStop provided and said oh, We will order them and you can come in next week. :rolleyes:

Thanks you Fstop

f5fstop 08-01-2006 10:54 PM

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The ignorance of dealers, it sometime amazes me. :D

Yes, it is the same part number for the new rails as used on 2007 H3s. It is the same part! The bulletin clearly states 2006 H3 vehicles. Does the dealer think that all new part numbers are issued for each new model year vehicle? Hell no...they are issued for each new part release, and if the part(s) is carried over for a new model year, it will have the same part number.
Tell the dealer to read the damn bulletin or you will be reporting him to Hummer customer assistance, and if you get a JD power survey, you will note on the survey the dealer is an idiot.

The part was redesigned to correct a problem (cracking), and the new part is supposed to be more robust and not supposed to crack. Therefore, GM will carry the same part over and use in on the '07 vehicles, and they might use it on the '08 vehicle. Probably 75% of the parts are the same number between the two model years.

Sorry for the ranting, and I'm not ranting at anyone on the board, but I had a few conversations with idiot dealer service managers today, and I'm truly amazed that any of them can wipe their arses with two hands and a mirror.

DarthKarl 08-02-2006 03:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PackerFever
I called MedVed in Denver today


The guys at Medved (from sales to service) are the biggest scumbags and dip$hits on the planet.

Its an embarassment to have them as a Hummer dealership.

I'd drive to Colorado Springs or Casper, WY to avoid those jerks anyday of the week.

Wisha Haddan H3 08-02-2006 05:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DarthKarl
The guys at Medved (from sales to service) are the biggest scumbags and dip$hits on the planet.

Its an embarassment to have them as a Hummer dealership.

I'd drive to Colorado Springs or Casper, WY to avoid those jerks anyday of the week.


x1000

fourfourto 08-04-2006 11:48 PM

Re: news on the cracking plasitc trim
 
Mine were replaced today they also replaced the pieces along the front windshield. Nice tight fit.:D

I got a 2007 Suburban loaner and they gave it back to me washed :cool:

PackerFever 08-10-2006 04:25 AM

Re: news on the cracking plasitc trim
 
Got mine replaced today. Seems to fit a lot better at the top joint. The windshield trim still fits kind of "off" but it is fine.

They also replaced the Jack. From the invoice. "GM is making available a redesigned vehicle jack for certain H3's. This new Jack has been designed to increase Jack durability in the evne tof repeated use under cetain conditions."

All work was covered under warranty as was the rental. They gave me a 2007 Black on Black H3. Base package, I am glad I got the Lux for ourselves. I like the adjustable seats, leather, and everything else. Driving an Automatic was kind of wierd at first too...... kept hitting the ghost clutch. :rolleyes:

Medved Service mentioned that they did not know about the new part being available until I clued them in. However Derek did take care of me, I really don't have any complaints about this visit. Still some grime stain on the headliner from a previous visit, (fingerprint marks) I forgot to tell them until they end of the day and they said they would take care of next time, , ....I had to go.

Agriv8r 08-11-2006 12:43 AM

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we are replacing them on the lot before they are sold. trying to catch em all, but a couple have made it past. parts are easy to get, even easier if you contact the parts department..they will order them and then they should set the service appointment when the parts come in...try it that way and see if it works at other dealerships..:D

Hmmm2 08-11-2006 06:58 AM

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Are the roof rails supposed to be flush up against the A pillar molding .. fitting like a puzzle piece, or, is there supposed to be a small gap between the two? I have about a 1/4 inch gap between the connecting moldings.:confused:

hmrlvr 08-11-2006 07:25 AM

Re: news on the cracking plasitc trim
 
I have a gap there and they fit together crappy. When I put on my 2 marker lights, I put a screw through the pillar plastic into the roof plastic. I figured I couldn't make it fir worse. There is still a small gap but they sit flush now:cool:

H3.007 06-13-2011 07:04 PM

Re: news on the cracking plasitc trim
 
Greetings all!

I think my H3 passenger side rail or trim has finally cracked as I am hearing the rattle/flapping noise at highway speeds/wind conditions tat everyone mentions.

Was this problem covered under a recall/TSB? My warranty has expired so I am interested in determining if GM will replace it for free given the widespread nature of this problem.

Thanks!
Chris


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