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PARAGON 01-05-2007 10:15 PM
Re: Jeep versus H3
 
Po-lice officer, how can it be?
You can 'rest everybody but cruel Stagolee
That bad man, oh cruel Stagolee

Billy DeLyon told Stagolee, "Please don't take my life
I got two little babes and a darling, loving wife"
That bad man, oh cruel Stagolee

"What'd I care about your two little babes and darling, loving wife?
You done stole my Stetson hat, I'm bound to take your life."
That bad man, oh cruel Stagolee

Boom boom, boom boom,
Went the forty-four.
Well when I spied Billy DeLyon
He's lyin' down on the floor.
That bad man, oh cruel Stagolee

Gentlemens of the Jury,
What you think of that?
Stagolee killed Billy DeLyon
'bout a five-dollar Stetson hat.
That bad man, oh cruel Stagolee

Standin' on the gallows, head way up high
At twelve o'clock, they killed him, they's all glad to see him die
That bad man, oh cruel Stagolee.

stagger_lee 01-05-2007 10:20 PM
Re: Jeep versus H3
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scouts Out
I rarely take acception to post here but Scout II's were great trail vehicles. 165 HP but well over 350 LB of torque. dana 's front and rear. Now as I slightly age I would never consider one, road manners were equal to a pig and the body rusted as you watched. It had a fully boxed frame, easily lifted.....

I love my 3, probably the best all around vehicle I have owned, but the Scout was a fine vehicle. Remember, in the wise words of Sir Rodney King, "Can't we all get along"

Haha thats just it I think everyone is getting along great, not too much name calling, and just a good ol shop talkin group, checking numbers. I had a 73 Scout II. 345, 4 speed, good stump puller, again like my FJ40 much like driving a tractor, but agreed one of the best factory wheeling rigs ever produced. :beerchug:

stagger_lee 01-05-2007 10:22 PM
Re: Jeep versus H3
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by PARAGON
Po-lice officer, how can it be?
You can 'rest everybody but cruel Stagolee
That bad man, oh cruel Stagolee

Billy DeLyon told Stagolee, "Please don't take my life
I got two little babes and a darling, loving wife"
That bad man, oh cruel Stagolee

"What'd I care about your two little babes and darling, loving wife?
You done stole my Stetson hat, I'm bound to take your life."
That bad man, oh cruel Stagolee

Boom boom, boom boom,
Went the forty-four.
Well when I spied Billy DeLyon
He's lyin' down on the floor.
That bad man, oh cruel Stagolee

Gentlemens of the Jury,
What you think of that?
Stagolee killed Billy DeLyon
'bout a five-dollar Stetson hat.
That bad man, oh cruel Stagolee

Standin' on the gallows, head way up high
At twelve o'clock, they killed him, they's all glad to see him die
That bad man, oh cruel Stagolee.

That'd be me! haha I see someone knows their music history. :beerchug:

DRTYFN 01-05-2007 10:28 PM
Re: Jeep versus H3
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by stagger_lee
Not fan of the H2 at all. Not functional in my opinion, for the more serious off-roader.You're not much for researching or paying attention, are you? I have owned scouts, I own a 71 FJ 40, and have wheeled the crap out of my brothers 06 FJYour standard of wheeling is considerably lower than ours. loaded with manual trans and lockers.Did you enjoy having to run premium fuel in the FJ? The Jeep Rubicon is probably up there as well in the top 3 best factory capable vehicles. I dont thinkYour problem is your inability to think clearly. that the H2 was supposed to be a capable off roader from the factory, I think the H3 was more headed in that direction. Smaller, lighter, better clearence, bigger tires, etc.Uhm retard, you do know that 35>33, right? But honestly how many people are out there running Moab and The Rubicon daily, a handful, maybe. To the wifeys and the occasional mountain explorer or skiier/snowboarder its more about status then capability, and most 4x4s will get the job done.Or you could just buy an A4 wagon and be a total trolling fag. Try running the Little/Old Sluice or Soup Bowl (Rubicon Trail) in a stock H2, not happening.Try it in a stock Rubi and get back to me. I like H3s and will be buying one, test drove last night, and it will be my first GM vehicle, so just letting everyone know before I get bashed, that I love em, and Im buying one. :beerchug:
Post a picture of the alleged H3 immediately or you're banned.

The Green Lantern 01-05-2007 10:29 PM
Re: Jeep versus H3
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Huck BB62
The FJ's turning radius it awful, it's mileage a couple MPG lower, and to put 35s on it takes a lot of dough. How about it's crawl ratio?


.......and they offer 2WD too.


:popcorn:

The Green Lantern 01-05-2007 10:31 PM
Re: Jeep versus H3
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DRTYFN
Post a picture of the alleged H3 immediately or you're banned.


:jump: :jump:

Marcmedic 01-05-2007 10:32 PM
Re: Jeep versus H3
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by H3.007
Ummmmm..... you can inform your "wife" that I bought the H3 because I wanted it. It sat among many H2s. I could have easily afforded the latter. However, read the reviews, look at the style, and drive the two. Anyone who does an unbiased test will go with the H3. The H2s are parking lot pleasers. Period.


:lame:

That is quite possible the dumbest thing I've read today...congratulations! I can't stand to drive the H3. It's way too cramped for me. At 6'6" I simply don't have the room in the front that I do in my H2. The reviews??? Go ahead, read 'em. There are just as many negative reviews about the H3 as there are about the H2. Your comments are about as original as the ones from the Jeep trolls who come here.

The Green Lantern 01-05-2007 10:36 PM
Re: Jeep versus H3
 
LOL...

first H3 v. Jeep ......then H3 v. FJ.........now......H3 v. H2........:clapping: :popcorn:

DRTYFN 01-05-2007 10:38 PM
Re: Jeep versus H3
 
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Originally Posted by H3.007
Anyone who does an unbiased test will go with the H3. The H2s are parking lot pleasers. Period.


:lame:
Really?
http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=21178

The Green Lantern 01-05-2007 10:39 PM
Re: Jeep versus H3
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DRTYFN
Really?


Wow, nice H3 pic! :giggling:

PARAGON 01-05-2007 10:41 PM
Re: Jeep versus H3
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scouts Out
I rarely take acception to post here but Scout II's were great trail vehicles.
compared to what? a VW bug?

There was nothing great about them except that their skin was thick. They were bare bones simple design. We had a fire under the dash, choke cable break, seat bolts break and it simply didn't articulate for a solid axle vehicle. It was horridly unbalanced on the trail and bounced too damn much.

Don't get your feelings hurt. We had a '76 for parts (I think the years are right) and ran the '77. It just didn't cut the mustard unless you modded it a lot which I couldn't afford to do in High School.

stagger_lee 01-05-2007 10:53 PM
Re: Jeep versus H3
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DRTYFN
Post a picture of the alleged H3 immediately or you're banned.

You make no sense, and never once did I bash anyone. Grow up. I know my cars, I dont know yours (H3) but I drove it and I liked it, and I will go back and get it if all works out. "Your standard of wheeling is considerably lower than ours." Rockcrawling? Thanks for that ignorant statement of the year. Sport is sport, douche. Whether its duning, snow play or rockcrawling, different vehicles perform better in different situations. You can build any vehicle to do anything better than the next. I was looking for answers, and experience, and if a$$holes like you are the ones driving these rigs I definately dont want to be associated with the likes there of. Obviously 35>33 I see you passed 1st grade. Thats what I was saying that the H3 had bigger tires therefore a step in the right direction of being a more capable off road vehicle, Retard. Who cant read? and for your info the Jeep Rubicon did do those trails stock when it first came out on 31's, so let me look up that issue of 4 Wheel Drive so you can educate yourself.
"You're not much for researching or paying attention, are you?"
Im trying to research, no thanks to your ignorance. and your telling me that they made the H2 to be functional off road? They missed the mark.

If you'll also notice after several posts I said "with all due respect to all".

And let me just run down to the dealer and take picture for you..psshhhht.
:fdance:

PARAGON 01-05-2007 10:56 PM
Re: Jeep versus H3
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by stagger_lee
You make no sense, and never once did I bash anyone. Grow up. I know my cars, I dont know yours (H3) but I drove it and I liked it, and I will go back and get it if all works out. "Your standard of wheeling is considerably lower than ours." Rockcrawling? Thanks for that ignorant statement of the year. Sport is sport, douche. Whether its duning, snow play or rockcrawling, different vehicles perform better in different situations. You can build any vehicle to do anything better than the next. I was looking for answers, and experience, and if a$$holes like you are the ones driving these rigs I definately dont want to be associated with the likes there of. Obviously 35>33 I see you passed 1st grade. Thats what I was saying that the H3 had bigger tires therefore a step in the right direction of being a more capable off road vehicle, Retard. Who cant read? and for your info the Jeep Rubicon did do those trails stock when it first came out on 31's, so let me look up that issue of 4 Wheel Drive so you can educate yourself.
"You're not much for researching or paying attention, are you?"
Im trying to research, no thanks to your ignorance. and your telling me that they made the H2 to be functional off road? They missed the mark.

If you'll also notice after several posts I said "with all due respect to all".

And let me just run down to the dealer and take picture for you..psshhhht.
:fdance:
so, you ARE saying you are just trolling

stagger_lee 01-05-2007 11:02 PM
Re: Jeep versus H3
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by PARAGON
so, you ARE saying you are just trolling

Do you guys even read anything? My other posts were about warranty issues and prices, I have driven H3s and most likely will be driving one home tonite, if trying to educate yourself makes you a troll, then so be it. Last I checked we were all adults here, but maybe not. 1st grade, 2nd grade? you tell me. Also if you read all the posts I never said I had experience, but the experience I had was with several other vehicles. Not H3s.

RazM 01-05-2007 11:44 PM
Re: Jeep versus H3
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by big jake
My wife thinks the H3 in kindy of cheesy (wanna be H2 owners). I am kinda leaning that way too.

You two are a perfect match then. Just make sure when the two of you figure out how to reproduce, that you use protection. The world can do without anymore of you.

DRTYFN 01-05-2007 11:51 PM
Re: Jeep versus H3
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by stagger_lee
You make no sense, and never once did I bash anyone. Grow up. I know my cars, I dont know yours (H3) but I drove it and I liked it, and I will go back and get it if all works out. "Your standard of wheeling is considerably lower than ours." Rockcrawling? Thanks for that ignorant statement of the year. Sport is sport, douche. Whether its duning, snow play or rockcrawling, different vehicles perform better in different situations. You can build any vehicle to do anything better than the next. I was looking for answers, and experience, and if a$$holes like you are the ones driving these rigs I definately dont want to be associated with the likes there of. Obviously 35>33 I see you passed 1st grade. Thats what I was saying that the H3 had bigger tires therefore a step in the right direction of being a more capable off road vehicle, Retard. Who cant read? and for your info the Jeep Rubicon did do those trails stock when it first came out on 31's, so let me look up that issue of 4 Wheel Drive so you can educate yourself.
"You're not much for researching or paying attention, are you?"
Im trying to research, no thanks to your ignorance. and your telling me that they made the H2 to be functional off road? They missed the mark.

If you'll also notice after several posts I said "with all due respect to all".

And let me just run down to the dealer and take picture for you..psshhhht.
:fdance:
You don't act like such an asshat on the other forum, so why here?

RazM 01-05-2007 11:55 PM
Re: Jeep versus H3
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by stagger_lee
I have driven H3s and most likely will be driving one home tonite

Please, oh god please, DO NOT BUY ONE!

Imagine what that poor H3 will have to go through having you as its driver... Poor thing.

Please, stay away from HUMMER, PLEASE.

DRTYFN 01-05-2007 11:57 PM
Re: Jeep versus H3
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by big jake
Only kidding, just wanted to have some fun. I did look at the H3 but finally ordered the Jeep. I also looked at FJ Cruisers. Honestly I could live with any of them.
You're not going to be pulling your Flagstaff with a Heep.


I thought you were only in D1 status.

If JKs are so capable why do you feel the need to put bigger tires on it?
:OWNED:

Marcmedic 01-06-2007 12:45 AM
Re: Jeep versus H3
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RazM
Please, oh god please, DO NOT BUY ONE!

Imagine what that poor H3 will have to go through having you as its driver... Poor thing.

Please, stay away from HUMMER, PLEASE.

:iagree: :giggling:

PARAGON 01-06-2007 01:06 AM
Re: Jeep versus H3
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by stagger_lee
Do you guys even read anything?
Yeah, I read Cosmo..... why?

Huck BB62 01-06-2007 02:56 AM
Re: Jeep versus H3
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scouts Out
I rarely take acception to post here but Scout II's were great trail vehicles. 165 HP but well over 350 LB of torque. dana 's front and rear. Now as I slightly age I would never consider one, road manners were equal to a pig and the body rusted as you watched. It had a fully boxed frame, easily lifted.....

I love my 3, probably the best all around vehicle I have owned, but the Scout was a fine vehicle. Remember, in the wise words of Sir Rodney King, "Can't we all get along"

I gotta agree, I built a few myself, they're hell bent for stout. Rust though, oh geez, you couldn't keep a Scout from rusting out. I just gave up and let mine oxidize. I had full cage, winch, lockers front and rear, a 304, granny low five speed and Dana 300. It was killer. One thing it couldn't do, no how, no way, and what the H3 does soooooo much better, is sidehill. It's one reason that I have no plans to lift my H3. Some folks have a higher pucker capability than I do. Low as I can go and still get there does it for me.

DRTYFN 01-06-2007 03:01 AM
Re: Jeep versus H3
 
I notice he suddenly got quiet.:jump:

RuggedH2 01-06-2007 03:46 AM
Re: Jeep versus H3
 
A fawkin waste of 5 minutes of my life, reading this ghey ass thread.

Another troll hiding under the guise of being interested in a 3, while throwing out insults.

Come in here like I give a fawk about his questions and veiled insults. Anybody can write on the internet. Go wheel a fawkin 3, rent one, go with a 3 owner if you even have a rig at all.

I wheel with Jeeps. My 3 is better in lots of terrain, their Jeeps keep up in some ****. The Rubi's are capable and good climbers if they don't tip over.

Problem with Jeep is quality, it's shiat. Modify the fawker and the factory doesn't want to honor the warranty. Fawk this troll.

The Green Lantern 01-06-2007 03:52 AM
Re: Jeep versus H3
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 0313H3
A fawkin waste of 5 minutes of my life, reading this ghey ass thread.

Another troll hiding under the guise of being interested in a 3, while throwing out insults.

Come in here like I give a fawk about his questions and veiled insults. Anybody can write on the internet. Go wheel a fawkin 3, rent one, go with a 3 owner if you even have a rig at all.

I wheel with Jeeps. My 3 is better in lots of terrain, their Jeeps keep up in some ****. The Rubi's are capable and good climbers if they don't tip over.

Problem with Jeep is quality, it's shiat. Modify the fawker and the factory doesn't want to honor the warranty. Fawk this troll.


Lol.....X2 Fuck this troll..:giggling:

lennyrebel 01-06-2007 04:02 AM
Re: Jeep versus H3
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Green Lantern
To be honest with y'all, I'm not really a big fan of the H2 either. I like them, but I woudn't drive one. One of the reasons I bought a H is the "color"...:clapping:

....sorry fellows, I found this review about the H1 and H2.... :giggling:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGM97caMqyc

:dancingbanana:
God, I love this video, it has all the reasons I drive an H2. Ithink of myself as a 16 year old boy in it. I want to stand up and salute, when I see any HUMMER H1 H2 Or H3 . Regards The Rebel:jump:

RuggedH2 01-06-2007 04:30 AM
Re: Jeep versus H3
 
Here's a question Stagger Lee, how come the only "NEW" Jeeps I see on the trails (that I 'm on with an 06 H3) are only attempting the easy sh1t, and a little mud?

The jeeps that are really getting after it, are all older and modified with lifts and aftermarket upgrades all over them. There are some bad-ass Jeeps, but MOST of them are older and modified way beyond the factory setup.

I see some Rubi's out there, but they seem to be the only ones getting serious. The factory Jeeps are missing in the backcountry here.

GotSandH3 01-07-2007 03:26 AM
Re: Jeep versus H3
 

BlueHUMMERH2 01-07-2007 03:56 AM
Re: Jeep versus H3
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Someone else
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGM97caMqyc

:giggling: That is a great video. I mean, he's absolutely right about most of the points (minus the whole Tahoe bit). Just so entertaining to watch though. Too bad he didn't take it to the LR school and have some real fun...

NEOCON1 01-07-2007 02:43 PM
Re: Jeep versus H3
 
Bloody Rubish :fdance: ;)

PARAGON 01-07-2007 03:03 PM
Re: Jeep versus H3
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueHUMMERH2
:giggling: That is a great video. I mean, he's absolutely right about most of the points (minus the whole Tahoe bit). Just so entertaining to watch though. Too bad he didn't take it to the LR school and have some real fun...
shut up stupid. He's not right about many of the "points"

3.3 MPG????? Drives worse than the H1?:lame:

stagger_lee 01-08-2007 05:36 PM
Re: Jeep versus H3
 
Sorry for all the harshness before. I bought the H3, signed papers friday night. I pick it up Thursday, and am heading straight to the mountains to find trouble and snow. I will have plenty of pics for the non believers. Again all apologies for the harsh words, and hopefully I can learn something from you all. Cheers! :beerchug:

RuggedH2 01-08-2007 05:40 PM
Re: Jeep versus H3
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by stagger_lee
Sorry for all the harshness before. I bought the H3, signed papers friday night. I pick it up Thursday, and am heading straight to the mountains to find trouble and snow. I will have plenty of pics for the non believers. Again all apologies for the harsh words, and hopefully I can learn something from you all. Cheers! :beerchug:

Cool Stagger Lee, guess you're not a troll. Congrats on the new rig, you're gonna love it. :cool:

The Green Lantern 01-08-2007 06:19 PM
Re: Jeep versus H3
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 0313H3
Cool Stagger Lee, guess you're not a troll. Congrats on the new rig, you're gonna love it. :cool:

X2, initiation is complete......welcome aboard! :giggling:

bunchawannabs 01-08-2007 08:08 PM
Re: Jeep versus H3
 
You Fool,...you gotta be kidding me you would listen to this crap and
actually believe it. The JK would eat this piece **** H3 for lunch in any situation. This is rediculous even vs them against each other, how emarrasing this would be for a the JK. Maybe an H3 vs KIA Serento....even then I still don't know who would win. Actually it's the biggest laugh of the century. Guy's, your just not there yet, keep talking your way there, but I don't think that'll work... Grow up kids and go get a real
man's 4X4 and get rid of your fake. You'll be much more happier.

The ArchiTexan 01-08-2007 08:12 PM
Re: Jeep versus H3
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bunchawannabs
You Fool,...you gotta be kidding me you would listen to this crap and
actually believe it. The JK would eat this piece **** H3 for lunch in any situation. This is rediculous even vs them against each other, how emarrasing this would be for a the JK. Maybe an H3 vs KIA Serento....even then I still don't know who would win. Actually it's the biggest laugh of the century. Guy's, your just not there yet, keep talking your way there, but I don't think that'll work... Grow up kids and go get a real
man's 4X4 and get rid of your fake. You'll be much more happier.

Shut the FUCK UP!!! And you think your Chrysler Heep is a real one?

stagger_lee 01-08-2007 08:21 PM
Re: Jeep versus H3
 
Drive what you like, Im giving the H3 a try, and I'll form my own opinions. I have driven most all other 4x4s, so no need to trash. Like I said before every rig produced is going to have pros and cons in different situations. To each there own. And is it really worth to register just for one blow off at the mouth? :clapping: :beerchug:

Scouts Out 01-08-2007 08:37 PM
Re: Jeep versus H3
 
Of course teh Scout I had was before any Hummer (civilian version) had come out. Articulation was fair (compared to the other vehicles at the time so comparing it to the Audi A4 :) is out). The torque was unreal, the tractor sounding engine was unique, and take the top off it was fun.

Being 12 years older and wiser I am not saying I would own one but if my son wanted on I think we could make a respectable ride out of it. And the crash rating... I was hit twice (two days in a row) in the back bumper. First time the Ford pickup had to be towed home (Mostly due to the tubed rear bumper). Second day a Chrysler sedan drove under the Scout till the car had lifted the rear wheels of my scout off the ground. The last one broke my fuels gauge.

The ArchiTexan 01-08-2007 08:38 PM
Re: Jeep versus H3
 
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fixed!!

The Green Lantern 01-08-2007 08:53 PM
Re: Jeep versus H3
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bunchawannabs
You Fool,...you gotta be kidding me you would listen to this crap and
actually believe it. The JK would eat this piece **** H3 for lunch in any situation. This is rediculous even vs them against each other, how emarrasing this would be for a the JK. Maybe an H3 vs KIA Serento....even then I still don't know who would win. Actually it's the biggest laugh of the century. Guy's, your just not there yet, keep talking your way there, but I don't think that'll work... Grow up kids and go get a real
man's 4X4 and get rid of your fake. You'll be much more happier.

Look who's talking. :fdance:

marin8703 01-08-2007 09:02 PM
Re: Jeep versus H3
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bunchawannabs
You Fool,...you gotta be kidding me you would listen to this crap and
actually believe it. The JK would eat this piece **** H3 for lunch in any situation. This is rediculous even vs them against each other, how emarrasing this would be for a the JK. Maybe an H3 vs KIA Serento....even then I still don't know who would win. Actually it's the biggest laugh of the century. Guy's, your just not there yet, keep talking your way there, but I don't think that'll work... Grow up kids and go get a real
man's 4X4 and get rid of your fake. You'll be much more happier.

haha, laghin my a$$ off, high schools really need to start educating the kids. This one is writing at a 6th grade level, but he can't be a 6th grader, he's got the mentality of a crack addicted high school punk. :D


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