Perfect example of an idiot poser.

Owning an H1, with all the other Hummers in offer, makes owning an H1 retarded. Especially the ones that never see off road.

What people say about H1s now?

"Look at that idiot paying all that money when he could get something half as cheap, twice as comfortable, same in ability, and better looking like the H2.

Now with the introduction of the H3, people are keeling over laughing at how ridiculous H1s look driving around. Like a naked senile old men lost in the middle of a forest.

God I'm so happy I never bought an H1. I would have felt like an ass knowing what I know now.

Alpha H2 is the next upgrade.

I call bullsh!t until I see pictures.

Perfect example of an idiot poser.

Owning an H1, with all the other Hummers in offer, makes owning an H1 retarded. Especially the ones that never see off road.

What people say about H1s now?

"Look at that idiot paying all that money when he could get something half as cheap, twice as comfortable, same in ability, and better looking like the H2.

Now with the introduction of the H3, people are keeling over laughing at how ridiculous H1s look driving around. Like a naked senile old men lost in the middle of a forest.

God I'm so happy I never bought an H1. I would have felt like an ass knowing what I know now.

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Why do you care so much what he thinks of your H2? You like it so who cares, i know everybody always feels like they need to justify their purchase, but you are just as bad as the other guy bad mouthing the H1. I had an h2 and it was a good truck however the H1 fits me better than the h2. I also find it hard to believe that everyone that sees an H1 says, that guy is so stupid he could have just got an H2 which is the same thing and saved a whole lot of money. I have found just the opposite, when i had my h2 people used to say why didnt you get and H1? And now that i have an H2 all people tell me is that that is the real Hummer and the H2 is a piece, and i gladly inform them that the H2 is not a piece and its a great truck. Lets not forget that without the H1 there would be no H2/H3, and probably vise versa. Why cant everyone just appreciate each others vehicles, instead of bashing them?

I have to say that I dig the HUMMER brand in general. If I had the cash, I'd have one of each... However, I don't... I was either going to buy a used H2 or a new H3. I went with the H3 because it got the better gas mileage and I love it. No regrets from this new HUMMER owner!!!

H2 and H3 are a disgrace to the hummer name! I wouldn't have a problem with the vehicles if they called them what they are... suburban/jimmy.

Whatever

Dumb ass TROLL Get your facts straight!

An H1 definitely outperforms an H2 and H3 off-roading. It's not even close.

H1 can make it through the world famous Rubicon....H2/H3, not a chance.

That said...I own an H1, and only use my Willys Jeep on the trail. My H1 costs too much to smash it up on boulders.

I hate to break your bubble, but the Rubicon Trail was one of the primary test beds for the H3. There's plenty of footage of H3's on it. Some of which was featured on Hummer.com.

I went from an 03 H2 to an 00 H1 and am still smiling, kick in the ass vehicle!!

I love the H1 But don't have the cash for that! Could have got a used H2 But when I seen the body lines of the H3 (with 4yr/50k) that helps i just had to trade my zr2. I love the looks of the H3 wish it was alittle wider but oh well and on the tight trails it works great some day mybe move to H1 or H3 But for now just glade to be in the Hummmer family Hey who cares its a Hummer nota toyota or jeep ( are we soposta had jeeps?)...LOL

I live there...I've been on the Trail over 100 times...from start to finish. You can "say" you went on the Rubicon, and you can SAY you actually drove the Rubicon.

No stock H3 has ever gone THROUGH the entire Rubicon. Nice try.

AM GENERAL's own spokesperson said "the H2 and H3 has about 80% of the capability of the H1."

This...is the Rubicon. Taken just a couple weeks ago while I was working on the trail.



If you know where this photo is...you'd know they'd already gone through the above photos.




You can take your H3 test videos and use them to start a fire...cause that's all their worth. The trail is 13 miles long....just cause you drove on it, doesn't mean you made it all the way. There's a huge difference.


Still think an H3 can handle the Rubicon???

Give it a try.




Let me know, so I can bring a camera. LOL.

So are you the geeky bald guy or The Special Olympic Participant in the helmet. Either way it explains why you have an inferiority complex and have to talk a big B. S. game, feel better? Now go home troll!!

Is that how you make yourself feel better, by making fun of people in a photo??

If you'd actually engaged your brain, you'd realize...I TOOK the photo.

Now...

Tell me ALL about your Rubicon experience?? Because, it seems you know all about it.

I've been through it, start to finish, 7 times this year alone. Not counting, the 4 work days I did doing trail maintenance and driver education.

After 8.5 years in the Suck I don't have to go on make believe missions or go over the same obstacles that everyone else did for no appearant reason, other than to say look what I did and feel a false sense of accomplishment. 7 times Wow I'am so impressed, now do it with bullets flying at you with out sh*tting your pants. you are an Off Road God, is your name Ivan Stuart by any chance???

The missions are over son...

The thread was about H3's doing the Rubicon. Focus.

???? WTF

Son???


What did ya adopt me??

Or did ya want me to call you daddy! Ya Homo!!

Go drive your truck over some rocks a take some more pic's!!

Impress Us!!

I love Fookin WEB Wheelers!!

Hey ken, what the f@#k is your problem,,I came to this Board for freedom of speach and to give my comments on both vehicles why you crying? like I said had an H2 now got an H1 get over it some guys will make the transition some wont so whats your point!is it the real deal comment? I also at one time had 96impala ss then chevy came out the impala ss with the six ? what do you call that. just making observations thats all not out to hurt my H2 Bro's

Gil.......Ken if you hate the H1 so much why do you even post on the General H1 Discussion area?

It's clear some H2 and H3 owners get pushed out of joint. We have this guy calling you a dumbass, we have army boy Mr. I claiming the only way to really go wheeling is with bullets flying over your head.

I have a real Hummer. I personally wouldn't own a watered down version.

I'll take my extra clearance, steeper attack angle, wider stance, electric front window defogger, CTIS Air inflation system, higher water forging clearance and on and on...and actually go somewhere....

bullets not included.

And before armchair wheeler shoots over my head to make my typing more exciting...

I said "I personally"....if someone else is ok with it, have at it. That's why we all don't drive the same car.

It's clear some H2 and H3 owners get pushed out of joint. We have this guy calling you a dumbass, we have army boy Mr. I claiming the only way to really go wheeling is with bullets flying over your head.

I have a real Hummer. I personally wouldn't own a watered down version.

I'll take my extra clearance, steeper attack angle, wider stance, electric front window defogger, CTIS Air inflation system, higher water forging clearance and on and on...and actually go somewhere....

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Hey!!! They did take the H3's on the Rubicon, in fact I posted a link a while back.

But you are correct, there is a very good chance that it would not make it all the way thru. Since you are a Local like me....why don't we try it in my truck??? I would love to be the first H3 to COMPLETE the Rubicon.

I also now that there are parts of the trail that an H1 could not do. The sluices are very narrow. But an H3 might be able to do it!

Crazy Chick? Mehhhbe Adrenaline junkie? Absolutely.

Try Marine C*nt

Your a tuff guy eh?

Quote : Your a tuff guy eh?

WTF ????

Was I addressing you I don't think so. I think the comment was aimed @ H1 hummer owner for the army comment not you. However you do seem very receptive to that word. If the shoe fits wear it.

Your grammar is a little lacking also.
The word is spelled "You're " short for "you are" not Your!!!

See the little icon on the bottom right where there is a folder with quotes??? Use that next time to avoid confusion, also, be very careful about using the "C" word directly under a womans post.

As far as correcting my spelling, you got me.

I have the utmost respect for the military, my mom was a Wave '58-'62 in Air Traffic Control. I am uaually one of the first to thank you for your service to our country. Thank you.

Now pardon me if I tell you to GO **** YOURSELF!!!!!!!

Hey, I take it where and when I can get it

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He seems to think so. His mom is surely extremely proud that he's the bully of a message board. It's quite an accomplishment!

You'd be brave. Actually....I found some friends who were there when GM brought H2's through. They had be winched up Cadillac Hill. The H2's had H1's for support and winch vehicles. He said the H2's were badly damaged by the time they got out. Not surprising.

I have another friend, who was there when they brought the H3's through...They had 2 support vehicles. No information on damage, as they were seen early on in the trail.

Not sure if I'll be going through again this season...but I'll keep you posted.

I have pictures of the H3's...I'll post next.




Here's the support vehicles.

Go away troll A.K.A. Web Wheeler

First you come on this site and right away start digging on other peoples rides and start blowing your own horn about how you did this and that and how many times you did it. No one gives a F*#k.

Second you post pics of POS jeeps on a Hummer board.

Third where are the pics of your ride in action?? What haven't Wheeled the Web enough to collect pic's of someone elses ride doing things wish you could, if you even really have an H1.

I smell Troll

And I'm calling B.S.

Bully that web wheeling punk!!!

I see you've been busy engaging your fingers to the keyboard again...without using your brain.


Do a little research, before you type.

Feel free to visit some of my sites. To find out what people really do with vehicles on the trail.

Pirate 4x4 - The best Rock Crawling site.

My site with my ATV photos and Videos.

Friends Of The Rubicon. This is who I work for on Trail Maintenance.


I'll let you have the last word...cause that's what bullies do. So go ahead...think up some good ones...let 'em fly.

No bullies usually finishes up with stomping the chatter boxes face into the pavement. Especially Chubby Little Dough boys in raggedy old flat fenders.

Those are real vehicles. "Real Redneck vehicles"

The Powder blue color is cute ! Did your wife pick it out to match the purse she carries your balls in!

And a bully is someone who starts sh@t. I never said anything derogatory about the H1 the H2 or H3. You started it you just can't finish it.

Ignore him!!!Lets talk about me!!!Hey do you know a couple of guys from NCHG??? They both have H1's. I have wheeled with them at Deer Valley. Great guys. Do you know Cranky Steve??? Do you know the rock and roll 4x4 people???

Lets get a group together for the Rubicon!!

Set it up....

I don't know any of those names. I've done many trips with Hi-Lows from Tahoe, Dirty Dozen and RPS (Rubicon Porn Starz).

If you see me driving around...honk...since I'm in Granite Bay.

I drive down Hazel Ave. every morning on my way to Folsom! See ya around


Here is a link to the club that is meeting in Oct. Check it out.

http://www.rocknroll4x4.com/forums/i...showtopic=1458

PS checked out your ATV site, Very cool, the NCHG guys I mentioned earlier, you may have met on Fordyce???? Say June '04

You'd be brave. Actually....I found some friends who were there when GM brought H2's through. They had be winched up Cadillac Hill. The H2's had H1's for support and winch vehicles. He said the H2's were badly damaged by the time they got out. Not surprising.

I have another friend, who was there when they brought the H3's through...They had 2 support vehicles. No information on damage, as they were seen early on in the trail.

Not sure if I'll be going through again this season...but I'll keep you posted.

I have pictures of the H3's...I'll post next.




Here's the support vehicles.



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No offense... but why wouldn't GM take a couple of support vehicles a long for the ride? They would be stupid not to. Who goes 4 wheelin without a buddy? Plus that's saying some pretty good stuff about the sonoma and colorado in the pic if they picked those as their support vehicles.... where's the H1's? Just asking since you pointed out the H2's wouldn't have gotten through without the H1's

Here are the comparisons from the HUMMER website"

_____________________H1Alpha____H2________H3_

Ground Clearance _____16 in____9.9 in____9.1 in

Approach (max)________72 in____42.8 in____39.4in

Departure (max)_______37.5 in___40.0 in___36.5in

Breakover (max)_______29 in_____27.5 in___25.0in

Water Fording_________30 in_____20 in____24 in

Side Slope____________40%_______40%______40%

Grade Capacity________60%_______60%_______60%


With these numbers, why would anyone assume that HUMMER would give all the capability to only one of their vehicles???

Here's a question. How does the air ride suspension increase ground clearence. I can understand changing the breakover angle and depart angles but how the ground clearence since you have to measure from the lowest point (the dif)?

Apporach, breakover, departure are angles not a height. Some of the stats on Hummer.com aren't even correct.


The H2 isn't a real HUMMER, it doesn't break down often enough.

Then where can I find the correct measurements? I had trouble reading the measurements because some of them looked like a "degree" symbol.It was either a degree symbol or an " symbol for inches. If this is the case then any of the angle measurements posted would be in degrees, not inches.

Would that be correct? I'm not sure.

I don't believe it would change the ground clearance. The air ride suspension would only change the height of the body not the differential. Hence changing breakover, departure and approch angles. Just my logic.