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RuggedH2 10-10-2007 09:07 AM

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Damn, bet you didn't plan on that whole adventure.

Very cool though. Everything I've seen posted about Fordyce always mentions the intense challenge of that trail (your pics back that up). Very gutsy of you three to go after it in basically stock Hummers. Good on ya!

Keep your heads up something good should be coming for the H3 front diff soon. ;)

HummBebe 10-10-2007 03:04 PM

Re: Fordyce Creek, California (Renamed: Hell's Halfacre)
 
Unless they are giving me a new CI without having to pay a dime.....I'm not excited :crying:

ROX 10-10-2007 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 03H3
Keep your heads up something good should be coming for the H3 front diff soon. ;)

Usually I don't say too much about these issues, but as far as Hummer goes, they either want these vehicles to be capable at offroading, or they don't. If they want to pander to Hollywood street queens, fine. Just don't market any offroading capability. If they want it to go anywhere besides the dang grocery store, they need to pony up and fix these trucks so people aren't breaking things out in the middle of nowhere. They already sell Escalades and Yukons for people that don't do this type of wheeling. Shouldn't the Hummer stand up to the name and the image? Wasn't the H3 the answer to peoples concerns about an affordable, narrower, off road vehicle? I'm beginning to wonder...

RuggedH2 10-10-2007 11:38 PM

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I agree with you all on this point. I'm not going to defend that front diff at all, too small, too weak. I believe it was a mistake to make that housing of aluminum, period.

GM is selling a lot of H3's. Many (most) are mall queens. What percentage of H3's do you think actually wheel? Of all those that do wheel, what percentage do you think wheel like Sewie and Bebe? (Moab, Rubicon, Fordyce, etc) I bet it's a damn small percentage of all H3's.

Not defending that diff at all. Just saying those trails are among the ones that break serious off road rigs. Hard-core trail by almost every-one's standards.

If the H3 got a bigger cast iron axle, that was lockable.....might even be able to put a lift on that wouldn't wreck the CV's. Now that would be getting somewhere.

If I was just getting back from that trip, I'm positive I would be hating on that front diff myself! :D Still, those pics are outstanding, and there are not many H2's and 3's out there that can say they have run Fordyce.

HummBebe 10-11-2007 02:30 AM

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I run with built rigs all the time, the issue with built rigs is just that. They are built by folks in thier garages. I know guys in well bilt rigs who have run those trails without any breakage.

Really, with built rigs you break stuff cause you are either driving like an idiot, taking all the hard lines, or because you screwed up in the fabrication.

Fordyce wasn't that tough. The obstacles were tough, but the trail iself was fairly moderate.

Hell I led all the way to the second water crossing. It can't be tough.:clapping:

HummBebe 10-11-2007 02:32 AM

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IMHO, If I can run Fordyce in a mostly stock truck, like Rocks and Sewie, there really isn't much to improve on except that Damm Front Diff.

Alan06SUT 10-11-2007 03:21 AM

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:perfect10s: :perfect10s: :perfect10s:

WOW! What a beautiful trail. Getting away, camping, offroading, and having that kind of scenery, all in the same trip, is what its all about.

Sorry to hear about the breakage.

ROX 10-11-2007 05:56 PM

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Sewie.. You ready with some pictures yet?

ROX 10-11-2007 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan06SUT
WOW! What a beautiful trail. Getting away, camping, offroading, and having that kind of scenery, all in the same trip, is what its all about.

It really is a beautiful trail. It's not that long to the point where we exited. I'll try to make it back sometime when snow is NOT in the forecast.:D The river crossings are freaky!

Sewie 10-13-2007 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by H2 Rocks
Sewie.. You ready with some pictures yet?


Camera in truck. Truck at dealership. :o

I've been meaning to grab some stills from the vid but I've been super busy all week.

ROX 10-13-2007 05:24 PM

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HummBebe 10-14-2007 12:52 AM

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That captures Sewie to a T.

Attitude and everything :jump:

RuggedH2 10-15-2007 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Sewie
Camera in truck. Truck at dealership. :o

I've been meaning to grab some stills from the vid but I've been super busy all week.


Vid? Where? ;)

I read the busy comment.......so what Sewie, post it up man. :D

Gooey Gaybob 10-20-2007 04:49 AM

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Great pics! I never thought I would see a Hummer of any kind past water crossing #1. The last time I ran it I saw about 15 army H1s that were part of some off road training exercise. I bet you could have got the H3s past the squeeze.

I love running that trail. Didn't get a chance to run it this year, they closed it the weekend I had a run planned for. Wish I could have joined you.

Gooey Gaybob 10-20-2007 04:53 AM

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Great picture.:beerchug:

So how did you like Winch hills #1 and #2?

HummBebe 10-22-2007 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Gooey Gaybob


Great picture.:beerchug:

So how did you like Winch hills #1 and #2?


We did the bypasses on both, by the time we got to WH#2, both the hill and the bypass were covered in snow. WH#2 bypass was pretty easy, Rox walked it in the H2, but it was really sloppy by the time I tried it.

I can't wait to go back and try it again.

DennisAJC 10-24-2007 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by HummBebe
We did the bypasses on both, by the time we got to WH#2, both the hill and the bypass were covered in snow. WH#2 bypass was pretty easy, Rox walked it in the H2, but it was really sloppy by the time I tried it.

I can't wait to go back and try it again.


Still coming up with excuses? Give it up. Get the H2 already!:D:D:D

HummBebe 10-25-2007 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DennisAJC
Still coming up with excuses? Give it up. Get the H2 already!:D:D:D


I can't now.....for awhile anyway.

Gooey Gaybob 10-27-2007 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by HummBebe
I can't now.....for awhile anyway.


You say that like it's a bad thing?

Anyway, I would love to see you H3's try to run the whole trail. I am almost positive you could make the squeeze after the 3rd water crossing. If I'm there with you I will be sure to block the bypasses to winch hills 1 and 2 so we can see what your rig is all about. I think you could do it. :beerchug:

HummBebe 10-27-2007 02:00 AM

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WH2 I agree, WH1??? It would take 30 minutes just get to it LOL

wpage 10-30-2007 10:48 PM

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Nice pic's:beerchug:

Sewie 11-01-2007 07:04 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 03H3
Vid? Where? ;)

I read the busy comment.......so what Sewie, post it up man. :D



OK. :jump:

Fordyce Video

RuggedH2 11-01-2007 07:17 AM

Re: Fordyce Creek, California (Renamed: Hell's Halfacre)
 
Very cool video :cool:

ROX 11-01-2007 04:55 PM

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:perfect10s: :perfect10s: Great Video!!!

The night snow river crossing brought it all back....:notallthere: ;) :D

HummBebe 11-02-2007 12:00 AM

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LOL and that is where I stayed until morning:fdance:

Great video Sewie!!!!

Aich Tew 11-02-2007 03:53 PM

Re: Fordyce Creek, California (Renamed: Hell's Halfacre)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HummerHippy
Cool pics! Thanks

quick question - what usually causes a front diff to break?


Not so sure about an H3, but spiining one wheel and having it suddenly grab claims a lot of diffs.

No locker available? It's gotta be a Dana somthingoranother carrier, doesn't it?

Sewie 11-02-2007 05:12 PM

Re: Fordyce Creek, California (Renamed: Hell's Halfacre)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aich Tew
Not so sure about an H3, but spiining one wheel and having it suddenly grab claims a lot of diffs.

No locker available? It's gotta be a Dana somthingoranother carrier, doesn't it?


Spinning is one way. But in this case (and others) it was stuffing a wheel and trying to climb. Too much torque + weak gears/housing = kablooie. :crying:

GM doesn't use Dana axles anymore AFAIK. The H3 front is an AAM 760.

Aich Tew 11-02-2007 06:18 PM

Re: Fordyce Creek, California (Renamed: Hell's Halfacre)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sewie
Spinning is one way. But in this case (and others) it was stuffing a wheel and trying to climb. Too much torque + weak gears/housing = kablooie. :crying:

GM doesn't use Dana axles anymore AFAIK. The H3 front is an AAM 760.


Stuffing a wheel?


Lodged in an undercut?

Sewie 11-02-2007 06:32 PM

Re: Fordyce Creek, California (Renamed: Hell's Halfacre)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aich Tew
Stuffing a wheel?


Lodged in an undercut?



No, wheel stuffed into the fenderwell.

Aich Tew 11-02-2007 07:43 PM

Re: Fordyce Creek, California (Renamed: Hell's Halfacre)
 
Oh. For some reason that stresses the housing, or is it just more indicative of the load on the drivetrain?

JoeHummer 11-07-2007 11:41 PM

Re: Fordyce Creek, California (Renamed: Hell's Halfacre)
 
Great pics. Looks like lots of fun. :jump:

MRDM1 11-08-2007 03:44 AM

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:jump: nice pixzzzzzzzz

mikejr 11-25-2007 10:19 PM

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Great pics and video!

Sewie 04-18-2008 10:25 PM

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I was re-reading this thread and realized I never posted any pics. :o


Memories of the Bling-Mobile :(


Sewie 04-18-2008 10:26 PM

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