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HummBebe 09-13-2006 06:40 PM

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Ok let me ask more specifically.

How are the BDS's working? Have you installed them?

I looked up the part numbers and it shows they are for the Chevy/GMC 4WD K1500 (nonHD) 99-06 6" lift.

Did you have to modify the mounts at all?

Why BDS ? What are the actual length of the shocks?

Thanks, Bebe

cestwick 09-14-2006 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by HummBebe
Ok let me ask more specifically.

How are the BDS's working? No prob's noted. Have you installed them? Yes. I replaced rear shocks.

I looked up the part numbers and it shows they are for the Chevy/GMC 4WD K1500 (nonHD) 99-06 6" lift. That's right.

Did you have to modify the mounts at all? no.
Why BDS ? What are the actual length of the shocks? Extended length is 2 inches longer then factory. Giving you 4 more inches of travel at the wheel. You will have to remove rear sway bar or get a different sway bar link. they will not extend the extra inches and will pop out of there socket. I just removed whole bar. Have not had any probs. Gm's never had sway bars on solid axles before I haven't noticed any extra body roll....

Thanks, Bebe

:)

HummBebe 09-14-2006 12:15 AM

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OK,thank you.

Did you keep the front shocks stock? You had noted that you turned your T-Bars, 7-8 turns, did you not get longer shocks for the front???

:)

Ipedog 09-14-2006 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by HummBebe
OK,thank you.

Did you keep the front shocks stock? You had noted that you turned your T-Bars, 7-8 turns, did you not get longer shocks for the front???

:)


x2 - This would be an interesting thing to know. Would the H3 benefit from longer shocks up front OR would the longer shocks become a problem at the upper limit of the front suspensions travel?

Would it be better to instead have a bracket fabricated comperable to the Truxxx shock extension bracket as the range of motion remains the same?



Shock extension brackets shown on right.

cestwick 09-14-2006 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by HummBebe
OK,thank you.

Did you keep the front shocks stock? You had noted that you turned your T-Bars, 7-8 turns, did you not get longer shocks for the front???

:)


Yes I kept the front shocks factory. You would not benefit much from longer shocks in front because you are limited in the travel by the whole geometry of the front suspension. I do believe the brackets from Truxx would help the stiff front end if you crank the torsion bars up to the point it tops out the shock. The top shaft on the shock is long enough I just put a spacer between the shock and the lower bushing washer, efectively alowing the shock to sit lower in the mount and let it extend a little further.

HummBebe 03-30-2007 06:00 PM

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BTT, anybody seen cestwick???

I have a couple of questions.....:)

cestwick 03-30-2007 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by HummBebe
BTT, anybody seen cestwick???

I have a couple of questions.....:)

Last i know he was working at a T*y**a Dealership.

What can i do for ya?

Chris

HummBebe 03-30-2007 08:02 PM

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I had my shackles built, just wanted to know if there is any feedback from your set up? It's been a while since you installed.

I have a 2" extended shackle.

HummBebe 03-30-2007 08:14 PM

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Also, I found a Rancho 99227, from a 1 ton suburban 4" lift REAR, is 1" longer, all the same mounting, closed barpin, etc., and I think it's the same as the BDS you mentioned earlier in this thread.

I found some Hellwig adjustable end links, and some helper springs.

The Avalanche front shock Rancho 99268, is the same size as the H3 but with 6"'s of travel, vs 2.34 that Rancho has for the H3, and 4"'s that the stock shock has.

Think this will work?

evldave 03-30-2007 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by HummBebe
Also, I found a Rancho 99227, from a 1 ton suburban 4" lift REAR, is 1' longer, all the same mounting, closed barpin, etc., and I think it's the same as the BDS you mentioned earlier in this thread.

...

Think this will work?


Only if you put a 12" lift on your Hummer :fdance: :giggling:

HummBebe 03-30-2007 08:28 PM

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1"



:fdance: :fdance: :fdance: :fdance: :fdance: :fdance: :fdance: :fdance: :fdance: :fdance:

HummBebe 03-30-2007 09:21 PM

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Hey look I just passed 5000 posts. :grouphug:

Steve - SanJose 03-30-2007 10:02 PM

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Aren't most people over 5000 posts either banned, jailed, deported, or missing for good reason?....

cestwick 03-30-2007 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by HummBebe
I had my shackles built, just wanted to know if there is any feedback from your set up? It's been a while since you installed.

I have a 2" extended shackle.



I can't say that i have had any problems in the back or noticed anything good or bad, other then the fact that with extended travel in the rear from long shocks you will have to change sway bar links or remove the sway bar all togather(which is what i did). The stock links will not twist enough and will pop out of the joint when articulated.

HummBebe 03-30-2007 11:40 PM

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Like I said, Hellwig products makes the end links that are adjustable. I called and they said it will work for an H3...

Are they important to have? or have you been OK without your Sway Bar?

cestwick 03-30-2007 11:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HummBebe
Also, I found a Rancho 99227, from a 1 ton suburban 4" lift REAR, is 1" longer, all the same mounting, closed barpin, etc., and I think it's the same as the BDS you mentioned earlier in this thread.

I found some Hellwig adjustable end links, and some helper springs.

The Avalanche front shock Rancho 99268, is the same size as the H3 but with 6"'s of travel, vs 2.34 that Rancho has for the H3, and 4"'s that the stock shock has.

Think this will work?


I don't see why that wouldnt work. The front shock will have more travel then you can use with the front bump stops, but if you raise the bars a little more then you have now to match the rear you will need the extra travel to keep front for topping out the shock and causeing the rough ride.

cestwick 03-30-2007 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by HummBebe
Like I said, Hellwig products makes the end links that are adjustable. I called and they said it will work for an H3...

Are they important to have? or have you been OK without your Sway Bar?


I havent noticed one bit that the rear sway bar isnt there....If you look at 90% of the trucks on the road they dont have rear sway bars

HummBebe 03-30-2007 11:58 PM

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I can't wait till I have flex like this :jump:

Sewie 03-31-2007 12:26 AM

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I can't wait till I have flex like this :jump:


Doesn't look like much more than stock. :confused:

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HummBebe 03-31-2007 12:35 AM

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Yeah it does, we both have 33's in those pics, he's got 35's on and it still looks like more flex.


AND QUIT PEEING IN MY CHEERIOS DAMMIT!!!! :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:

But it is kinda funny to see our trucks from sooooooo long ago.


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