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Sewie 11-16-2006 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Hunner
I saw in H2 the Rubicon run. I would like to know how the H3's made it thru that without these and what their shocks and shackles look like. I will post in H3 classifieds.


I didn't damage mine at all on either of the Rubicon runs and I don't think any of the other 3's did either. But with slow rock-crawling like that, you're probably not going to damage that area unless you land on it really hard or get hung up on it and try to power through. On a trail like that the skids will help most by keeping you from getting hung up on that plate.

HummBebe 11-16-2006 07:48 PM

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Mine are in perfect condition. Well, ok, not perfect...but no real damage.

Hunner 11-16-2006 10:23 PM

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I wondered about it. I go to a Superlift park in Hot Springs Ark near my house. There are boulders everywhere. I have battle scars almost every time. Seems the trails are more narrow and no way around. Those are the two places I seem to scrape. Some hills are so steep the rocks pass you on the way down. We have a lot of loose rocks that move around. Its granite, flint and Ouachita rock they use for sharpening knives. It really cuts metal.
Looks like you had a great time!

Linus Gump 11-16-2006 11:28 PM

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Installation surprise follows... READ THIS: the Amstar instructions say you must remove and discard existing U-bolts and nuts, but retain the washers and replace with new GM u-bolts and nuts :confused: or void any warranty for the skids.
Is this standard procedure ?? ANYONE KNOW THE REASON FOR THIS? (serious replies only please)

The reason for the replacement of the hardware is because when you torque the nuts down to spec the bolt actually stretches and the threads of the nuts stretch and deform. This will cause the bolt to possibly break later on when retorqued, or never be tight because of over stretch. To prevent from lawsuits from bolts breaking under acceleration and causing accidents, they advise you that your warranty will be voided if you don't replace the hardware. This is why commercial lift kits come with new blots and nuts, and also why you need to replace the head bolts when you pull a head.

I agree that for $200 they should include all hardeware to mount them.

Hunner 11-17-2006 07:54 PM

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Yep that is what happens here. You land on it really hard and get hung up. Even crawling. Going up hills you have no choice and sliding down loose rock they pile up back there. I guess the difference in terrain is what is causing the problem I have. I go almost every weekend and the odds are catching up with me. I have only seen one other H3 on the trails. H2's that came from Texas had some tight places and broke tie rods. I know of two. Are the ones on the H3 bigger, stronger or is it just the H2 with big tires and power grab after spinning and brake them? I have looked at the Fab-Tec but dont know if the are the same for H3. Thought you guys might know.

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Originally Posted by Sewie
I didn't damage mine at all on either of the Rubicon runs and I don't think any of the other 3's did either. But with slow rock-crawling like that, you're probably not going to damage that area unless you land on it really hard or get hung up on it and try to power through. On a trail like that the skids will help most by keeping you from getting hung up on that plate.


bjc 11-19-2006 11:49 PM

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So here are my Amstar shock skids after their first trip off road. I'm glad I got them. When I picked up my truck from the dealer, Service was already closed so I didn't have a chance to ask the tech whether he actually replaced the hardware per the instructions...doesn't look to me like he did.

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fourfourto 11-20-2006 12:09 AM

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:clapping: Looks like they work GR8

Hunner 11-21-2006 12:04 AM

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Yep you got battle scars just like me. Your pictures really show why the ones I made are an inch wider on the inside to protect that shock bolt head. Not that it could not be cut off if need be to replace it, but that might not be fun in the rocks or mud. We can live with this problem if we use the skid plates. The front hanger is also a problem. I smashed one of mine the day before I decided to get the pattern made for the front. This is part of the vehicle and can be fixed but will never look original. A plate up there will preserve the original mount.
The second image shows the driver side. They put the bolt in before the tank and its skid. So Im making my skid for that so it will just tack weld on. Any muffler shop would probably do it.
The delay has been a stand off of sorts about making me one set before comitting to 20. I think I have something worked out now. Between deer season and Holidays they are short handed at the fab shop.
I will post in classified as soon as I get some.

Hunner 11-22-2006 07:19 AM

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Hey BJC did you just bleed your brakes or do you have a busted brake line? Is that some kind of red clay jammed up in your shackle plate?

bjc 11-22-2006 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Hunner
Hey BJC did you just bleed your brakes or do you have a busted brake line? Is that some kind of red clay jammed up in your shackle plate?


Red clay yes, brake fluid no. It's a long story...

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SR1355 11-23-2006 12:31 AM

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Hey BJC, I'd agree it looks like they reused the hardware and did not install new. I'd go back and givem' hell. :mad: Their suppose to know what they are doing.

SR1355 11-23-2006 12:33 AM

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Red clay yes, brake fluid no. It's a long story...

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The dreaded blown diff.....

Hunner 02-06-2007 01:46 AM

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Got two pair. Painting mine, install tonight. More pictures then. I only have the back pieces. Should have two front ones this week. I hope to have 20 sets in a week to 10 days. I will start down the list.

Hunner 02-06-2007 01:47 AM

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Both sides

Hunner 02-06-2007 01:49 AM

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Top and bottom. This shows the laser cut index slot for strength. They will be welded here on the production run.

Hunner 02-06-2007 01:51 AM

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comparison to the "little one" that does not cover the shock bolt.

Hunner 02-06-2007 02:07 AM

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Primer, Im workin on it!

Hunner 02-06-2007 02:50 AM

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Next, I painted mine silver so they will show up in the installed photos.

Hunner 02-06-2007 07:01 AM

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Installed! here is a before

Hunner 02-06-2007 07:02 AM

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here is after


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