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I have never understood the locked chained doors. Doors can be locked so that you can't get in and have a push bar to get out. WTF. Even the highschools have locked doors. |
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The doors were chained so the students couldn't get out. The push bars from the 'inside' would obviously allow them to push and run out. That's how I understood the report. |
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I agree with you on this - I am totally for informative news and in no way condone any sort of censorship - but I do believe that a tragic event such as this should be handled with a lot more dignity and decorum. Why we allow an event like this to be turned into a three ring circus ratings war I will never fully understand. I saw a reporter this morning actually talking about this being the largest attended media event that he had ever seen - even making the cameraman pan around to show all the dozens of news trucks that were in attendance - I turned off the television in disgust just as he was starting to compare it with Superbowl coverage. As I said - no censorship - but we need something in place to limit intrusive coverage - the authorities should limit the amount of unbiased journalists into a scene - and not have every quaffed dickhead with a mic and a cameraman run amok through a scene of tragedy looking for that ellusive "exclusive" interview. There are dozens of people deeply affected by this and I really do not think that a massed pack of sensational seeking press is doing anything to help those people. |
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Reminds me of the Far Side comic where the guy is lying on the couch in the psychiatrist's office and the psychiatrist writes on his notepad simply: "Just plain nuts." There's no need to look further. He committed mass murder for no reason because he was CRAZY. |
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Links to students Myspace pages/ Blogs etc Shooters Plays he wrote- Mr. McBeef wtf Mr. Brownstone From the student that published the plays online- What happened yesterday: |
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I watched as VATech held their candle light cermony tonight, Man I wish I wouldn't watch the news.. I work with kids everyday and I just think of what it must be like to be that parent that has to get the call...That is has to be numbing to the soul.
Like most teachers ( which I am not a school teacher) I try to teach the kids right from wrong and how to be a good person.. As we watched on Monday at the Sk8 park, the kids were looking at me for some answers. I saw in thier eyes the true meaning of being kids. And I couldn't explain such an horrific act by another human. I am sure Thursday when I get back I will be able to talk some more with them. |
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I have just stopped watching the news, it is so depressing. I have experienced the suicide bombers, the terrorist, being shot at, rocketed, mortored, lost friends over seas. This being close to home, close to the age of my kids... that sad.
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Hey, I got it! They should outlaw chains!
On a serious note, people really need to start being aware of their surroundings. If that guy was on the forum here, he'd been ratted out fifteen ways to hell and back (cause nobody'd be worried about huwtin' his wittle feewin's) or looking racists. I'd also like for some common sense gun store owners to ask questions and quit worrying about making a buck so badly. I'm dead serious, I was standing in the gun store checkin' out a new Kimber and the lunkhead salesman was pumpin' info to this gang banger nutjob about why this gun is better than this one etc. When the banger left, I gave the counter guy an earful and asked him if he'd SERIOUSLY SELL A GUN TO THAT guy! Same thing about this slaughterhouse turd. No idle chit chat about the gun's useage? No questions about training etc.? There's a sign on the wall "We reserve the right to sell a gun to anyone and not to just anyone!" I guarantee you that five minutes of conversation with someone with this mentality would more than trigger an alarm. First question: Why would anyone in their right mind sell a gun to someone that lives on campus? Ding frickin' ding ding ding. I'm not a gun control guy. I shoot almost every day. What I'm in favor of is a little common sense. Oh, by the way, when a terrorist or bad guy starts lining you up for slaughter, fight back. Get together and attack. He's not trained, somebody's getting through. It's a lot better than being popped like a pig in a sausage factory. The massive news coverage on this is surely training the next psycho to do a better job. The good news is that he DID use a gun. Had he been truly wicked, he'd done a bomb during those huge rallies they have. I know that sounds morbid but look around us. Look at Iraq. I'm glad the guy was a dumbass and used a gun instead of a bomb, or else he'd have killed hundreds. |
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I agree. If half the people who got killed started throughing books, pens, cell phones, backpacks, chairs or even desk at this kid a lot more of them wouuld have lived. It's difficult to aim a gun if all sort of stuff is flying at you. We are teaching our kids the wrong thing in school. Instead of sitting there and being passive they should teach them how to defened themselves and ask questions. |
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Some in the news are making it sound as if you can just walk in and get a gun in Virginia without any checks done. That's not true. You do have a background check done whether the gun is purchased at a store or a gun show. There's no need for armchair quaterbacking here. No one could expect ANY gun store owner to research the killer's school writings or history. That's just silly. The murderer wasn't ever convicted of anything. Nothing would show up on his background check. |
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But he was Asian, just like Ghengis Khan. I'm just saying. |
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Just a joke. Dennis knows we love him.:) |
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I thought the same thing.......... except that is real easy to say sitting here entering IP Addresses into computers here in my office. I bet if someone started popping off with two handguns in the office next to me it would be a whole different story...........but I dont know. I'd love to say I'd be that one "lucky" guy that stopped the shooter.....but I'm guessing under the circumstances that would be much easier said then done......... |
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I'd like to say the same thing. Of course, if I saved the 30 people from dying, no one would ever know that. Instead, you'd see the Reuters and ABC story about how some gun-crazed guy who violated a Gun Free School Zone by carrying a concealed handgun into a classroom violently shot another crazy gun nut and then went to jail. |
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Sounds like a nice cop-out. All I'm saying is there's a total lack of common sense. There's been a lot of (well, he didn't have a record so...) At THAT PARTICULAR STORE there's been five murders committed with weapons sold from there. If we intend to maintain our right to bear arms, and that's my point here, we need and must do more than say things like "He didn't have a record". When a quiet sullen guy shows up with no buddies to buy a gun and you just sell it to him, dontcha think that a little talking may be in order? We've got to get smart, or we're going to get legislated out of existance. It's more than apparent that EVERY SINGLE PERSON that came into contact with this nut had alarms going off in every brain cell that he wasn't right in the head. About the Monday morning quarter backing remark: Yeah, I get to do that, and you should too because this is most friggin' certainly going to affect you and I. Next time you're at the gun counter and you see a questionable person buying a gun, it's certainly within your rights to talk to him. Why? Because you, as a salesmen of weapons, will be under the microscope and may lose your business and go to jail. Quick questions like "What kind of shooting do you like to do?" "Where do you practice?" "This hollow point ammo is kind of expensive for plinkin' ain't it?" "Where do you store your guns? Would you like to see our safes?" I guarantee you that he'd stumble on one or more of those questions enough to cause concern. |
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Second question: Why the fcuk not? When I was in college in the 1980s living on campus, I bought a shotgun, which is about as deadly as you can get. I kept it at my brother's house. I used it to shoot doves, quail, and clay pidgeons. It was stupid for them not to let me keep it in my dorm room. In some countries, like Switzerland, college-aged male ADULTS are in the militia and required to have their issued semi-auto rifle in their dwellings whether on campus or not. I bet you they don't have a lot of mass shootings on campus in Switzerland (which has the lowest violent crime rate in the Western world). |
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