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Got to love that. Photochop-chopping an FJ (and a spotter!) onto Lion's Back.:rolleyes: LOL
Neo, please send the guy some real photo's of the H3 in action on Lion's Back. :)

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I guess these are photochops too. Nice try though. Just keep chanting your mantra: Hummer Like Nothing Else, Hummer Like Nothing Else...

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I never said LB was difficult just proving that those wern't photochops. The other Moab pics have already been posted in other FJ threads, try a search.

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You know it really amazes me that I rarely her a Hummer owner say that but all the butt hurt troll run around saying it all the time. Too many idiots running around that can not tell the difference between what the owners feel and think versus what the marketing people feel and think :rolleyes:


Those pics don't prove a damn thing. I have seen photochops that were a hell of a lot harder than to make those if they were chops. I believe they are real but they don't prove anything.

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Almost every pic he has posted have been of Yota team whatever they call it or aftermarket manufacturers vehicles :rolleyes:

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my H3 will kick the $hit out of any fj / KY cruiser you got , i dont care if all you can post are factory team shots or not i will FHUKK your junk up :cool:

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ROFLMAO! :D :D :D :D

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LMAO!!!! :D :D

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Nice photochop but the US Special Forces actually use Toyota Tacoma's in Afghanistan and Iraq. You'll never see an H3 do this stuff and these arn't photochops. Now who's gonna get fuked up?...that's what I thought.






What, no one want's to pose with the HMMVVE on the hill?

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Dual antenna mounts
Winch
Deep water fording kit
Troop seats (8 soldiers)
Crew and cargo area canvas
Arctic kit
Countermine armor kit
Hard top and doors
Central tire inflation system (CTIS)
Desert filtration package
Lightweight weapons station kit
Driveline protection kit
Spare tire carrier
Bulkhead spare tire kit
Jerry can carrier
Brush & headlight guards
Special paints
Metric gauges
Pedestal weapons mount
Air conditioning
Infrared driving light
Special Ops configuration

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i love tacos they taste like carne asada :p :p :D can i try droping one ???????

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die thread, die!!!!

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he will be back with more schizophrenic KY blabber unless he stays on the taco kick :p

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TGL i love this one its a real " TACO KILLER " f250 :p :D

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I think H3ers are smoking too much crack.

H3 vs FJ? - YES

H2/H1 vs FJ - Definitely NO

H3 was built to compete with the lower class rigs like FJ, TJ, Liberty, Grande Vitara.

You may disagree but you get what you pay for. An FJ can out perform an H3 but definitely would not to an H2 or H1.

That's life and that's why H3 is dirt cheap.

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i totally agree :p ;) :D

it just sucks that well equiped H3's cost as much as a used H2 or beat H1 @ $40k . arent KY's like in the low $20K range ;)

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The idea that the military would ever use H3’s is laughable at best. I can hear it now: potential conversation overheard between two H3 occupants in a combat zone.

Driver - Hey keep your dirty boots off the H3’s carpet.
Shotgun - Oh no, here comes the insurgents, push the 4wd button and lets get out of here.
Driver - Wait I heed to open the door so I can adjust my power leather seat first, ok here we go.
Shotgun – We don’t have enough power to out run them.
Driver – It doesn’t matter anyway we just ran over a rock and blew the rear differential.
Shotgun – Nooooooooo…

If you actually think the H3 is as rugged and reliable as 1st generation Tacoma’s your dreaming.

You know how no matter what you’re talking about there’s always that one guy who has some ignorant commit or comeback? You’re that guy, no matter what it is you always have a dumb ass commit or comeback, and I’m sure some on this forum would agree.

One other thing, using the term “sport” is totally played. How many years have you been using that on this forum? You don’t use that in regular conversation do you?

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You can spare me the HMMWV pics and specs; I drove them for six years while serving in a USAF CBCS, that’s Combat Communication Squadron for you civilians that don’t know. I’ve got to admit I wasn’t impressed; the HMMWV’s were underpowered and unreliable at best. I really preferred the M-1083 5 ton truck, it was much smoother, it was reliable, easy to service, had great get up and go even when towing, and could fjord 6 feet of water to boot.

You’re comparing a Mil. Spec. vehicle like the HMMWV to a civilian Tacoma or FJ? I guess that says a lot about the ruggedness and reliability of Toyota’s.

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:iagree: :iagree: :iagree:

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Looks like they are too busy coming up with cute license plates to go wheeling.

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Hummers :beerchug: KY's :twak: LMFAO

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The FJ "Trail Team" was at Deer Valley on Labor Day. I pulled over to let a couple of them pass in the other direction. As he's going by, one of the drivers says to me, "Its nice to see someone actually wheeling those things." :rolleyes:

My reply: "Funny, we say the same thing about you guys." :jump:

BTW, they only went about 1/3 of the way up the trail. :yawn: They skipped out on all the rock gardens. :OWNED:

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HAHA!!!1one What a dumbass. Like we can't figure that out.:OWNED:

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LMAO :beerchug:

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FJ's are for Communists!

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still waiting for one to come play off-road. get real man. Hummer is it all others are a day late and a dollar short.

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..can't wait for the Lexus version....lol :jump:

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Perhaps if you got offroad yourself, you might see one.

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Ok, this is really coming as an extention of the "If you drive an FJ, you might be a sissy" thread:

I have indeed wheeled with an FJ. Here are the videos:
http://media.putfile.com/FJ1
http://media.putfile.com/FJ2
http://media.putfile.com/FJ3

Now, I'm being as objective as possible from what I've observed. I think, in the hands of a good operator, the FJ would equal an H3 with an equally good operator.

However, in the hands of a novice, the FJ and Wrangler do fare more poorly than the H3. The H3 (any Hummer actually) has an ability to make a novice driver into a somewhat skilled operator. I do not know if it is the traction systems, the feeling of being behind the wheel of a "Hummer", or simply the entire vehicle systems operating together. Having followed Wranglers (most raised, and otherwise modded) for two weekends now, and FJ's for one, the amount of damage and difficulty incurred by novice drivers is much higher in both vehicles than in any Hummer. However, with a skilled operator, the Wrangler is MORE capable at a location such as Paragon, due to the width of a Hummer, the length of the wheelbase, and the proximity of trees. A Hummer has a more difficult time because it has to take a more difficult line. So at a place like Paragon, a Wrangler is more.... eh, not capable, but has more room to pick an easier line, or avoid the more difficult section of the advanced trails. The Hummer has very little choice, as there is usually a factor that forces it to choose the only available line (like trees, cliffs, etc.) And when I say Wrangler, I mean one that you can still drive home legally and comfortably at the end of the day. No trailering.

Now in comparision to the FJ, I had that yellow one above following me at Paragon. It was noisy as hell to start with, more so than the H1, and sounded like a horrible go-kart, and not the nice rumble of a diesel. But I think that if a skilled driver had been in the vehicle, it would have been just fine. The guy in that one didn't even take the steps off, so I suppose that would tell us something about his experience off-highway.

I'd still take the H3, merely for the 4 doors and, IMHO, good looks. I would NOT choose a Wrangler. Even those that were moderately lifted with bigger tires and whatnot struggled where I did not, took a beating, and were a lot more tippy. The reason some Wranglers performed so well, IMHO, is in direct relation to three factors:

1. Width, wheelbase, and ability to avoid the difficult line.
2. Driver experience.
3. Less concern for the preservation of sheet metal and vehicle operability.

I still would like more experience with some stock FJ's on the trail operating alongside stock H3's. I still believe, from what little I've seen, that they would be a fair match. I could make a determination only after such a comparison, which I think has yet to occur with any members on this forum.

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I think I've stated this before. Your opinion has as much impact as an ant's fart. Why waste the finger strength?

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I don't seem to have any problem loading them, nor have any others. They're about 20-25Mb.

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Norton Internet Security has zero issues. Nor does McAfee. I appreciate your concern, but the files appear, by all reputable sources, to be virus-free. I'm sorry, but it looks like everyone will be able to view them.

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I can imagine that in the hands of the same skilled driver the FJ and H3 would perform similarly. Or even that a more skilled driver could take the FJ where a novice couldn't drive the H3. But there's no substitute for wheeling with both trucks at the same time over the same obstacles ... which as you said, no one's seen on this forum yet.

I do think some vehicles take better care of a driver than others, since throttle control, steering input, brakes and traction control are all controlled (or modified) by programming any more. Can't say if hummers take care of you better than jeeps, but it's head and shoulders above my old Blazer ZR2 (which took me up Radical Road and many other serious trails along the divide).

Thanks for the FJ videos. Didn't seem to do well, but I think driver skill was a HUGE factor there. Nice to see an FJ wheeling tho :)

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I use the ZoneAlarm Security Suite and Spysweeper and had no problems with your links. Took a long time for my DSL to download, but that's due to file size and server speed.

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Thank you for your refreshingly honest, level-headed, polite and sensible opinions. :) I'm glad you liked the FJ vids. I hope that on the next trip to Paragon I can get some more. Maybe with an H3 following behind!

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[quote=PARAGON]You are still an idiot. quote] = fat aggression release :yawn: