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f5fstop 06-07-2006 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by HummBebe


The Bunny strikes again....:D

The Green Lantern 06-07-2006 10:33 PM

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HIHUMMER 06-07-2006 10:38 PM

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F5..I don't understand this....

04/25/2006 414203 # F2383 - RING GEAR AND PINION - REAR DIFFERENTIAL - REPLACE 19285 miles


My rear diff is in PA being replaced right now??? At leasts that's what they are telling me....


Ok...so like I said in my thread original I'm still learning what these parts are....so sue me if I mistaken the word "bearing" for "pinion" or whatever. So...they replace my Ring and Pinion in the front differential....? is that right?

CO Hummer 06-07-2006 10:57 PM

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220. 221. Whatever it takes....

f5fstop 06-07-2006 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by HIHUMMER
F5..I don't understand this....

04/25/2006 414203 # F2383 - RING GEAR AND PINION - REAR DIFFERENTIAL - REPLACE 19285 miles


My rear diff is in PA being replaced right now??? At leasts that's what they are telling me....


Ok...so like I said in my thread original I'm still learning what these parts are....so sue me if I mistaken the word "bearing" for "pinion" or whatever. So...they replace my Ring and Pinion in the front differential....? is that right?


If the rear diff is being replaced right now, there will be no claim for the replacement, until the job is finished. At which time they will claim the same labor operation number F2383.
If, and I say if because I'm not in the dealer, you had the lapping compound issue and didn't realize it until 19K miles, and the dealer only replaced the ring/pinion set, that could be why your rear diff failed again. If the first rear diff was a complete assembly replaced, the dealer would have claimed F3200 Rear Differential Assembly (Complete) - Replace.
It almost sounds like this is the problem. Maybe with all those new radios you couldn't hear the rear axle whining.:D (Only kidding...)
The only other thing would be if it wasn't the lapping compound problem, the first tech may not have set up the ring/pinion gear correctly, and they failed a few thousand miles later.
To be completely honest to you and everyone else, we DO NOT have a problem with rear diffs; other than the lapping compound issue. The rear diff is strong enough so that if something breaks it is usually the axle shaft (weakest point in the link), versus the front diff. :(

PARAGON 06-08-2006 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by HIHUMMER
F5..I don't understand this....

04/25/2006 414203 # F2383 - RING GEAR AND PINION - REAR DIFFERENTIAL - REPLACE 19285 miles


My rear diff is in PA being replaced right now??? At leasts that's what they are telling me....


Ok...so like I said in my thread original I'm still learning what these parts are....so sue me if I mistaken the word "bearing" for "pinion" or whatever. So...they replace my Ring and Pinion in the front differential....? is that right?

No, that's completely wrong. Your REAR diff was replaced on 04/25/2006

Your front diff hasn't been touched. You had a front axle seal replaced and that's about as close to the front diff as it got.

dеiтайожни 06-08-2006 02:22 AM

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Ut-Oh HI, your lies have finally caught up with you. I told you this was a bad idea!

HIHUMMER 06-08-2006 02:33 AM

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ok..then what the fuk is the sh!t on the bottom of my work order??? I'll scan damn thing and post if you think I made this up as well

19308 *had bad ring and pinion gears* - Test drove had clicking noise, sounded like coming from front diff, remved cover inspected foun no sign of problem reinstalled cover check ed fluid levels in both front and rear diff and transfer case, called tan talked to XXXXXXX said to run rubber hoses from front diff and transer case vents test drive to see if could hear noise found noise coming from front diff (Case #8903956) R&R dfont diff found chips in ring and pinion gears, also found preload on pinion at .008" Replaced ring and pinion gears and bearings and side carrier bearing, set preload to .27 spec .015 to .030 rest back lash to .006 spec .003 to .010 perfered .005 to .007 reinstalled in vehicle test drove no noise heard from front diff - RFI casae C16615100376 Excessive rental due to parts being damanged on two orders XXXXXX aware of issue"

HummBebe 06-08-2006 02:36 AM

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SNAP!!!

Scan it!

dеiтайожни 06-08-2006 02:38 AM

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A scan will help, but remember ... we can tell if it's been photochopped. Could you possibly get any and all people who had something to do with your vehicle sign the document approving accuracy, and have it notarized and mailed via registered mail to each of us. Also, please post a list of all numbers where we can reach said people to clear this whole fiasco up.

HIHUMMER 06-08-2006 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by HummBebe
SNAP!!!

Scan it!


will do in the morning once I get to work....

Is is possible that perhaps the dealer entered a wrong number or something?:confused: :confused:

DRTYFN 06-08-2006 02:41 AM

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ok..then what the fuk is the sh!t on the bottom of my work order??? I'll scan damn thing and post if you think I made this up as well

19308 *had bad ring and pinion gears* - Test drove had clicking noise, sounded like coming from front diff, remved cover inspected foun no sign of problem reinstalled cover check ed fluid levels in both front and rear diff and transfer case, called tan talked to Barry Offerman said to run rubber hoses from front diff and transer case vents test drive to see if could hear noise found noise coming from front diff (Case #8903956) R&R dfont diff found chips in ring and pinion gears, also found preload on pinion at .008" Replaced ring and pinion gears and bearings and side carrier bearing, set preload to .27 spec .015 to .030 rest back lash to .006 spec .003 to .010 perfered .005 to .007 reinstalled in vehicle test drove no noise heard from front diff - RFI casae C16615100376 Excessive rental due to parts being damanged on two orders curt laudick aware of issue"


You typed all of that??? RAARRRR!!11!!
You = pwn3d by enragement

HIHUMMER 06-08-2006 02:42 AM

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I had PM'd all that to F5 and NoMo eariler to see if they could explain it....:rolleyes:
copy and paste....

f5fstop 06-08-2006 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by HIHUMMER
ok..then what the fuk is the sh!t on the bottom of my work order??? I'll scan damn thing and post if you think I made this up as well

19308 *had bad ring and pinion gears* - Test drove had clicking noise, sounded like coming from front diff, remved cover inspected foun no sign of problem reinstalled cover check ed fluid levels in both front and rear diff and transfer case, called tan talked to xxxxxxxx(real person on tech assistance...request HIHUMMER to XXX out name, but I verified it is a realy person) said to run rubber hoses from front diff and transer case vents test drive to see if could hear noise found noise coming from front diff (Case #8903956)(case number looks good, one way to correctly diagnose and narrow down the cause of the noise) R&R dfont diff found chips in ring and pinion gears, also found preload on pinion at .008" Replaced ring and pinion gears and bearings and side carrier bearing, set preload to .27 spec .015 to .030 rest back lash to .006 spec .003 to .010 perfered .005 to .007 reinstalled in vehicle test drove no noise heard from front diff - RFI casae C16615100376 Excessive rental due to parts being damanged on two orders xxxxxxx(real person, again, please XXX out most of name) aware of issue"


Yes, the dealer could have pulled the incorrect number for the repair, correct labor op would be F2382 versus F2383. Easy to fat finger one digit. In addition, since all repair times for H3 at time of repair were straight (vehicle not time studied till a month ago by GM to set exact times), to the warranty people, it would pay whatever it took to repair (tech punches in/punches out). Only thing that would be affected would be warranty reports run to see what parts are failing at what rate.
To be honest everyone, I can't believe anyone would have the correct names, the suggested diagnosis without this being for real.
It appears from my end, that it was a front diff gear replacement, and it was a mistake in the system by the warranty person at the dealer.

However, please explain how you damaged your front crossmember?:D

HummerHippy 06-08-2006 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CO Hummer
220. 221. Whatever it takes....

X2 :D

HummerNewbie 06-08-2006 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by f5fstop
However, please explain how you damaged your front crossmember?:D


Can you say Tellico :D

Don't know for sure but as I recall she was having some noise coming from the front end and they thought it might be the front suspension. Ended up being something to do with loose bolts on the cross member or something like that but I could be wrong.

HummBebe 06-08-2006 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by f5fstop
Yes, the dealer could have pulled the incorrect number for the repair, correct labor op would be F2382 versus F2383. Easy to fat finger one digit. In addition, since all repair times for H3 at time of repair were straight (vehicle not time studied till a month ago by GM to set exact times), to the warranty people, it would pay whatever it took to repair (tech punches in/punches out). Only thing that would be affected would be warranty reports run to see what parts are failing at what rate.
To be honest everyone, I can't believe anyone would have the correct names, the suggested diagnosis without this being for real.
It appears from my end, that it was a front diff gear replacement, and it was a mistake in the system by the warranty person at the dealer.

However, please explain how you damaged your front crossmember?:D


YES!!!

alldunn 06-08-2006 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by HummerNewbie
Can you say Tellico :D

Don't know for sure but as I recall she was having some noise coming from the front end and they thought it might be the front suspension. Ended up being something to do with loose bolts on the cross member or something like that but I could be wrong.


Could it possibly be from when you backed in to the front of her H3???:rolleyes::D

HIHUMMER 06-08-2006 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by f5fstop
To be honest everyone, I can't believe anyone would have the correct names, the suggested diagnosis without this being for real.
It appears from my end, that it was a front diff gear replacement, and it was a mistake in the system by the warranty person at the dealer.

However, please explain how you damaged your front crossmember?:D


Thanks F5 AND NoMo...I appreciate your help.
I've pointed this possible keying error out to the dealer...we'll see what they do about it..? How about that FRONT Differential??!!!!:rolleyes:

Not sure about the front crossmember. There was squeeking when I would drive over a speed bump or something like that. The work order says something about bolts loose....I can PM the details to you later if you'd like.

NoMoGMPG 06-08-2006 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by PARAGON
No, that's completely wrong. Your REAR diff was replaced on 04/25/2006

Your front diff hasn't been touched. You had a front axle seal replaced and that's about as close to the front diff as it got.


Personally, I don't see why there is a need to persecute the woman over semantics. Do you feel the need to be precise and 100% correct at all times and have no tolerance for others ignorance or lack of nomenclature?

This is just lame.:rolleyes:

HummerNewbie 06-08-2006 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by alldunn
Could it possibly be from when you backed in to the front of her H3???:rolleyes::D


You will pay for that! :mad: :D

alldunn 06-08-2006 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by HummerNewbie
You will pay for that! :mad: :D


LMAO!!! :D

HummerNewbie 06-08-2006 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by alldunn
LMAO!!! :D


You two ready to head back to Tellico in a month or so?

alldunn 06-08-2006 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by HummerNewbie
You two ready to head back to Tellico in a month or so?

You got exact dates yet? Maybe depending on when. Keep us posted! Middle of July is pretty much definitely out.

HummerNewbie 06-08-2006 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by alldunn
You got exact dates yet? Maybe depending on when. Keep us posted! Middle of July is pretty much definitely out.


No dates yet but thinking towards the end of July or the beginning of August. I will probably start a thread here shortly to see what everyone thinks. Know a group heading up there this weekend but they are going to be on motorcycles :(

PARAGON 06-08-2006 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by NoMoGMPG
Personally, I don't see why there is a need to persecute the woman over semantics.

Persecute? Awwww! Did another swinging dick with a hard-on for the self-professed bitch get his feelers hurt? Pointing out the obvious is not persecution, davey boy.
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Do you feel the need to be precise and 100% correct at all times

You don't? Sad, indeed. Sorry to hear that you have such low self esteem that you don't subscribe to the idea of trying to be precise and correct
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This is just lame.:rolleyes:

You are lame. You looking to get lucky too?

HummBebe 06-08-2006 11:00 PM

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PARAGON 06-08-2006 11:29 PM

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Leonard Ingram is ghey!

NoMoGMPG 06-08-2006 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by PARAGON
Persecute? Awwww! Did another swinging dick with a hard-on for the self-professed bitch get his feelers hurt? Pointing out the obvious is not persecution, davey boy.
You don't? Sad, indeed. Sorry to hear that you have such low self esteem that you don't subscribe to the idea of trying to be precise and correct
You are lame. You looking to get lucky too?


Oh please. Your rationalizations are just childish ranting. Don't try your crap with me. It doesn't wash. :rolleyes:

PARAGON 06-09-2006 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by NoMoGMPG
Oh please. Your rationalizations are just childish ranting. Don't try your crap with me. It doesn't wash. :rolleyes:

what, exactly, is it that I am suppose to be rationalizing?

What children do you know rationalizes anything anyway?

Don't try my crap with you? Look, sport. You chose to mouth off on the subject. I simply called a spade a spade. How about you stick to something you understand....... nevermind, there's not enough glue in the world for that.

NoMoGMPG 06-09-2006 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by PARAGON
what, exactly, is it that I am suppose to be rationalizing?

What children do you know rationalizes anything anyway?

Don't try my crap with you? Look, sport. You chose to mouth off on the subject. I simply called a spade a spade. How about you stick to something you understand....... nevermind, there's not enough glue in the world for that.


You arrogant prick, just what is your 'specialty'? It sure isn't mechanics, or the inner workings of General Motors Corporate, is it? No. You assume because you can muster up enough metatags on Google to bring up some relevant material on a given subject that qualifies you as an expert. On EVERYTHING. How sad for you.

As far as my understanding, I understand you're an e-bully, given to berating and humiliating simple ignorance. You have no patience for the uninitiated or ill-informed, you choose to be aggressive towards anyone that does not agree with your supposed expertise. I have watched and sat through numerous occasions of your obsessive compulsive behavior.

I have news for you. I have forgotten more than you will ever know about General Motors. I have more experience with hands on mechanical ability than you ever will, as well. Don't make the mistake of equating silence with ignorance when it comes to my knowledge or access. I choose to respond when I see false or faulty information being thrown about. I don't sit and hover while obsessing about someone who just might mis-type a word or maybe use the incorrect nomenclature for a part, as you do.

I can see you're just salivating for my response...

Hover...Hover...Hover

Have a nice day!

PARAGON 06-09-2006 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by NoMoGMPG
You arrogant prick, just what is your 'specialty'? It sure isn't mechanics, or the inner workings of General Motors Corporate, is it? No. You assume because you can muster up enough metatags on Google to bring up some relevant material on a given subject that qualifies you as an expert. On EVERYTHING. How sad for you.

As far as my understanding, I understand you're an e-bully, given to berating and humiliating simple ignorance. You have no patience for the uninitiated or ill-informed, you choose to be aggressive towards anyone that does not agree with your supposed expertise. I have watched and sat through numerous occasions of your obsessive compulsive behavior.

I have news for you. I have forgotten more than you will ever know about General Motors. I have more experience with hands on mechanical ability than you ever will, as well. Don't make the mistake of equating silence with ignorance when it comes to my knowledge or access. I choose to respond when I see false or faulty information being thrown about. I don't sit and hover while obsessing about someone who just might mis-type a word or maybe use the incorrect nomenclature for a part, as you do.

I can see you're just salivating for my response...

Hover...Hover...Hover

Have a nice day!

Hover hover hover...... priceless. Way to go Mr. knoweverythingaboutgeneralmotors. aka A parts pusher for a dealer.:rolleyes: It's called email notification to a subscribed thread. Ever heard of it. Thought you really had me there didn't cha.:eek:

Where is this "specialty" bunk from? I am arrogant. What about it?

"You assume because you can muster up enough metatags on Google" Well, OK you got me there. If you could explain exactly what the fck that means I'll give it a shot. Are you, in some strange foreign way trying to ask if I am a mechanic or a parts guy at a dealership like you? The answer is NO. Sorry, that is not my specialty.

Care to share where I said I was an expert at everything..... or anything for that matter. Does my intelligence intimidate you that much? Do you feel so inadequate that you have to lash out with nonsense such as "berating and humiliating simple ignorance." Now, I might be wrong, but ignorance is pretty humiliating all by itself and I don't really see much point in berating inanimate objects, soooo....... I don't quite understand that comment.

I have no patience for those that try to be something they are not.

I have news for you. It's going to be partly cloudy with a slight chance of rain, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was finally killed by 2 500lb bomb blast dropped from a pair of F-16s, I-70 is going to have 2 lanes closed for construction....... enough of the news.

"I have more experience with hands on mechanical ability than you ever will, as well." So, you were a mechanic that made it up to the parts counter, good for you. What's your point?

You grossly overrate yourself? You should see someone for that.

PARAGON 06-09-2006 01:57 AM

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So sorry, was that a weak attempt at trying to be funny?

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