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HummerNewbie 07-19-2006 03:57 AM
Re: Power mods for the I-5
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by h2co-pilot
I added this flux capacitor to mine it is only effective if:

Alright CP, you got rid of the RX and got yourself an H3!!!! :p ;)

Steve - SanJose 07-19-2006 06:06 AM
Re: Power mods for the I-5
 
Oh, this had turned into another wtf thread as usual.

S.

KenP 07-19-2006 06:43 AM
Re: Power mods for the I-5
 
That guy again....:rolleyes:

Michael1 07-19-2006 07:09 AM
Re: Power mods for the I-5
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by PARAGON
Ok,

do you attempt to think with that thing you call a brain or does it just occupy space. Go the fck back up and look at my posts. My first post in this thread where you have spat your ignorance contained this little gem "Since HP is the measure of torque over time, HP is just as limiting a factor as torque. You can't have HP without torque."

To which you disagreed.

Care to try some more?

You absolutely do not know what you are talking about. Show me one, just one specification sheet from an OEM manufacturer of transmissions or axles which has a limit on horsepower.

The problem with your brain is it can't distiguish between "power" and "force". Pity.

The other problem with your brain is it just doesn't have any class. You come on here trying to insult me and everyone else, while doing your little chest thumping routine. We're not impressed.

Michael

Michael1 07-19-2006 07:30 AM
Re: Power mods for the I-5
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChevyHighPerformance
For the new Z06, GM designed a cutout, so when you went to WOT (which does not have noise requirements) the cutouts opened for more power and substanially more noise.

Unless the noise standards have changed recently, auto manufacturers still have to meet a 50' full throttle noise test. The cutout is just to make the interior noise level liveable while cruising.

Michael

PARAGON 07-19-2006 01:40 PM
Re: Power mods for the I-5
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael1
You absolutely do not know what you are talking about. Show me one, just one specification sheet from an OEM manufacturer of transmissions or axles which has a limit on horsepower.
Damn this thread is loaded with the dummies.

You can't calculate HP w/o torque. Torque is the measure of applied force at one minute specific teeny tiny itty bitty moment in time.

It's the same as static and dynamic load ratings for cables and the such. Too bad shop class doesn't teach logic, it would help you distinguish between the skinny pedal and the others.

PARAGON 07-19-2006 01:42 PM
Re: Power mods for the I-5
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by KenP
That guy again....:rolleyes:
there's always one...... err about 7 or 8. (It's hard to keep track of all the AEs)

PARAGON 07-19-2006 01:45 PM
Re: Power mods for the I-5
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChevyHighPerformance
"There is no 100HP difference between BHP and rear wheel HP, which is what is being shown. Stock listed BHP for the H3 is what? somewhere around 220BHP and the stock rear wheel HP listed on the graph is about 138 HP. The coefficient for friction doesn't increase as the HP increases so one could naturally assume a 80HP difference. 153 + 80 = 233 or a net gain of about 13 BHP or somewhere around a 6% gain."

If the coefficient of friction doesn't increase as the HP increases (based on your quote) then the HP doesn't decrease as the HP decreases. Here you used a fixed HP loss value of 80 HP.

"Never did I say absolute, that's where you took your liberty. I'm not the one pitching the BS here."

80 is an absolute number.

You also said that the stock rear wheel hp from the graph is 138. First, understand that the H3 is a 4WD vehicle as has to be dynoed on an all-wheel drive dyno. This isn't rear wheel hp it is wheel hp. Then you said the new new HP curve has a peak hp of 153. Isn't 153 - 138 = 15 hp??? These are your numbers. Where's the net 13 BHP coming from that you calculated??? Where's the 13 HP that you keep referring too???

"There is no 100HP difference between BHP and rear wheel HP"

Correct. According to your numbers 220 - 138 = 82 hp. Then you are using 80 as a hp difference.

All I did was take the numbers that you posted and consolidated them. You biased each number in your favor. Now, who is taking the liberties.

Stick to your happy meal word search, and help Ronald find the hamburgerler. We're all counting on you!

When you reply, as you know you will, let's try not using the playground words like: turd, dummy, dumber, dumb, etc. as you seem to refer to everyone as.
did you go downstairs and try to drum up some rebuttal material from dear ole dad yet?

Would you rather talk lasers now?

Michael1 07-19-2006 05:27 PM
Re: Power mods for the I-5
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by PARAGON
Damn this thread is loaded with the dummies.

You can't calculate HP w/o torque. Torque is the measure of applied force at one minute specific teeny tiny itty bitty moment in time.

It's the same as static and dynamic load ratings for cables and the such. Too bad shop class doesn't teach logic, it would help you distinguish between the skinny pedal and the others.

Stiill waiting for that spec sheet from you for the OEM axle or transmission showing a limit on horsepower. Even a transfer case will do.

Michael

PARAGON 07-19-2006 06:45 PM
Re: Power mods for the I-5
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael1
Stiill waiting for that spec sheet from you for the OEM axle or transmission showing a limit on horsepower. Even a transfer case will do.

Michael
still waiting for you to show me that GED you said you had.

Steve - SanJose 07-19-2006 07:10 PM
Re: Power mods for the I-5
 
And still waiting for anything useful on this thread...:D

S.

PARAGON 07-19-2006 07:13 PM
Re: Power mods for the I-5
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve - SanJose
And still waiting for anything useful on this thread...:D

S.
you certainly are not it

Desert Dan 07-20-2006 12:38 AM
Re: Power mods for the I-5
 
I have some magnets that you can put on your fuel line that will increase you HP and MPG.

They may work on the Tornado on the air intake too.

The magnet helps to get the air and fuel molecules aligned with the Earth's vortex. They work better in Sedona AZ and Santa Fe NM

HIHUMMER 07-20-2006 02:04 AM
Re: Power mods for the I-5
 
BTT...this is gonna get interesting!


Someone pass the popcorn!

Paragon_Is_An-Ass 07-20-2006 02:13 AM
Re: Power mods for the I-5
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by PARAGON
Damn this thread is loaded with the dummies.

Hi - I am Paragon's alter ego. I just want to let everyone know that I am very unsecure so I feel that I need to insult everyone. Maybe it's because my wife fcks around with the neighbors or because I was abused as a child. I am not sure... I'm not sure of anything. I like to insult people to make myself feel better. I feel like a bigger person when I let go on others. Maybe it was because I rode to school on the short little yellow bus. Most of the time I was late for the bus because I would chit my pants and my mommy had to change my clothes.

I really don't know what I am talking about most of the time... That is another reason I like to insult people. When I insult people, they tend to get so upset about my insults, they don't even realize that I have no earthly idea what I am talking about.

I cannot contribute to ANY thread in a positive manner. I MUST cut people down to feel better about myself. Let's face it, I have severe problems. I know that everyone is aware of this but I hope that by piling on more insults, people won't notice.

I look up most of the information I use to challenge people on the Internet. Most of the time I am wrong, but who cares? I have more insults! Perhaps I will committ suicide soon to end my miserable life. I know I should... But I feel that I must stick around here just to insult people.

Gee... What do you think?

h2co-pilot 07-20-2006 03:44 AM
Re: Power mods for the I-5
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paragon_Is_An-Ass
Hi - I am Paragon's alter ego. I just want to let everyone know that I am very unsecure so I feel that I need to insult everyone. Maybe it's because my wife fcks around with the neighbors or because I was abused as a child. I am not sure... I'm not sure of anything. I like to insult people to make myself feel better. I feel like a bigger person when I let go on others. Maybe it was because I rode to school on the short little yellow bus. Most of the time I was late for the bus because I would chit my pants and my mommy had to change my clothes.

I really don't know what I am talking about most of the time... That is another reason I like to insult people. When I insult people, they tend to get so upset about my insults, they don't even realize that I have no earthly idea what I am talking about.

I cannot contribute to ANY thread in a positive manner. I MUST cut people down to feel better about myself. Let's face it, I have severe problems. I know that everyone is aware of this but I hope that by piling on more insults, people won't notice.

I look up most of the information I use to challenge people on the Internet. Most of the time I am wrong, but who cares? I have more insults! Perhaps I will committ suicide soon to end my miserable life. I know I should... But I feel that I must stick around here just to insult people.

Gee... What do you think?

Oh my sweet gheynez. Pathetic.

PARAGON 07-20-2006 04:07 AM
Re: Power mods for the I-5
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alec W
I have a feeling I will get the blame for this one too ;)

ALL YOUR AE ARE BELONG TO ME :D:D
Nope, entirely too much thought and love was put into this one for it to be you.

I think he wants a date. Sounds like he wants a kiss.

PARAGON 07-20-2006 04:39 AM
Re: Power mods for the I-5
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by PARAGON
Nope, entirely too much thought and love was put into this one for it to be Alec.

I think he wants a date. Sounds like he wants a kiss.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alec W
I thought all AEs are me according to the great know it all Paragon. But? some might be other people?

Whoa, you actually admitted this.

Nice, but this one was me.

Not so surprising that YOU would be the one wanting a date and a kiss.

PARAGON 07-20-2006 02:24 PM
Re: Power mods for the I-5
 
What's the matter Alec? You have no conviction? You can't post your BS and then stick by it without deleting it afterwards?

What's the point in the deletions.:rolleyes:

PARAGON 07-20-2006 03:23 PM
Re: Power mods for the I-5
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alec W
Actually the owned pic was moderated. Nice try tho.
you deleted your posts, nice try tho

PARAGON 07-20-2006 03:39 PM
Re: Power mods for the I-5
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alec W
Nope, however believe what you want, it makes no difference to me what you think.

BTW the sky is green and grass is blue.
lies come easy for you, don't they.

pitiful

QATAR 07-22-2006 01:50 PM
Re: Power mods for the I-5
 

Steve - SanJose 07-22-2006 08:31 PM
Re: Power mods for the I-5
 
Quatar - what are we looking at in that H3 pic?

S.

fourfourto 07-22-2006 11:07 PM
Re: Power mods for the I-5
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve - SanJose
Quatar - what are we looking at in that H3 pic?

S.

X2 link to sound file of exaust would be nice.:D

wpage 07-27-2006 12:20 AM
Re: Power mods for the I-5
 
Had some improvement in performance by adding S&B Filter replacing stock air filter. In addition cut a 3" hole and inserted a aluminum flex tube running out under thru front starboard wheelwell to hole in bumper as a natural ram with a common air conditioner filter.
My estimate 5-10% gain in torque and hp. Impact on warrentee after cutting hole in air plenum is unknown!

PARAGON 07-27-2006 12:27 AM
Re: Power mods for the I-5
 
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KenP 07-27-2006 12:35 AM
Re: Power mods for the I-5
 
Ram Air on a HUMMER?

Steve - SanJose 07-27-2006 01:40 AM
Re: Power mods for the I-5
 
Yea and engineered by hacksaw. No need to ask the dealer about warranty coverage. More noise than horsepower gain is guaranteed.

S.

fourfourto 07-27-2006 02:02 AM
Re: Power mods for the I-5
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wpage
Had some improvement in performance by adding S&B Filter replacing stock air filter. In addition cut a 3" hole and inserted a aluminum flex tube running out under thru front starboard wheelwell to hole in bumper as a natural ram with a common air conditioner filter.
My estimate 5-10% gain in torque and hp. Impact on warrentee after cutting hole in air plenum is unknown!


Nots not a good idea if your going through water :eek:

Ram air + water = blown moter


I dont have the factory ram air on my 68 442 so I made one and have two 3 inch hoses running down under the bumper(used 2 wet vac attachments for ducts at bumper and metal elbows from home depot at the air cleaner).:D

wpage 07-30-2006 01:00 AM
Re: Power mods for the I-5
 
GM Did not do thier homework,
There are mods that can enhance the H3 with upgrades...
A. Add S&B Air Filter replace stock filter for beter aspiration.
B. Cut 3" hole to air plenum and add aluminum flex air tube from plenum to bumper air foil.
C. Modify air input to battery and rerout direct to air input.
Result 5 -10 % increase in HP and torque with no loss in MPG and potential increase in MPG dependent on driving.
Regards,
W Page

PARAGON 07-30-2006 01:31 AM
Re: Power mods for the I-5
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by wpage
GM Did not do thier homework,
There are mods that can enhance the H3 with upgrades...
A. Add S&B Air Filter replace stock filter for beter aspiration.
B. Cut 3" hole to air plenum and add aluminum flex air tube from plenum to bumper air foil.
C. Modify air input to battery and rerout direct to air input.
Result 5 -10 % increase in HP and torque with no loss in MPG and potential increase in MPG dependent on driving.
Regards,
W Page
A. GM is not going to put high-flow oil cover filters in their vehicles. Paper filters filter to lower microns, period. How do you think it get's higher air flow?

B. I'm sure the engine breathes fine. If you are referring to your stupid ass ram air idea you posted above. OK. But why would you add flex crap when it restricts flow. Why not make a smooth tube like someone with any logical knowledge would do?

C. I don't think having air going to the battery is going to do much.

D. Do you sell these? http://www.turbonator.com/

http://www.electricsupercharger.com/

HummBebe 07-30-2006 02:19 AM
Re: Power mods for the I-5
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by wpage
GM Did not do thier homework

Oh yeah, and .....

DDWH 07-30-2006 02:53 AM
Re: Power mods for the I-5
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paragon_Is_An-Ass
Hi - I am Paragon's alter ego. I just want to let everyone know that I am very unsecure so I feel that I need to insult everyone. Maybe it's because my wife fcks around with the neighbors or because I was abused as a child. I am not sure... I'm not sure of anything. I like to insult people to make myself feel better. I feel like a bigger person when I let go on others. Maybe it was because I rode to school on the short little yellow bus. Most of the time I was late for the bus because I would chit my pants and my mommy had to change my clothes.

I really don't know what I am talking about most of the time... That is another reason I like to insult people. When I insult people, they tend to get so upset about my insults, they don't even realize that I have no earthly idea what I am talking about.

I cannot contribute to ANY thread in a positive manner. I MUST cut people down to feel better about myself. Let's face it, I have severe problems. I know that everyone is aware of this but I hope that by piling on more insults, people won't notice.

I look up most of the information I use to challenge people on the Internet. Most of the time I am wrong, but who cares? I have more insults! Perhaps I will committ suicide soon to end my miserable life. I know I should... But I feel that I must stick around here just to insult people.

Gee... What do you think?

Paragon_Is_An-Ass vbmenu_register("postmenu_272708", true);
You have been Banned!

PARAGON 07-30-2006 03:36 AM
Re: Power mods for the I-5
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alec W

I thought all AEs are me according to the great know it all Paragon. But… some might be other people?

Whoa, you actually admitted this.

Nice, but this one was me.
wonder why he was banned?

usetosellhummer 07-30-2006 04:39 AM
Re: Power mods for the I-5
 
can't we all just get along, what am i saying ?


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