Re: JK vs. H3
 

Looked at the new JK lineup last night. From the standpoint of everyday ease of use, comfort, and quality, forget it. Go with an H3. I haven't been in what felt more like a tin can since I rode in my friends Hyundai. The doors were like paper, and the back seat was pretty clausterphobic, especially with a giant speaker in your face hanging from the crossmember between the b-pillars. It might be the greatest Jeep ever, but it's got a long way to go to match the H3 as the best all-around 4-wheeler. If this is the best they've got, I hate to think about what the old Wranglers were like. No wonder they're usually trailered in/out. I wouldn't want to drive it on the highway either!

Re: JK vs. H3
 

so, what does that make for rear seat room in the H3?:confused:

since it's smaller

Makes a pretty stupid and weak argument.

thank you for your deeply insightful and completely erroneous viewpoint. It will, in no way, sway any reader's opinion on either vehicle and has simply wasted electricity by moving electrons to post it and transmit it as data.

Re: JK vs. H3
 

I like wasting electrons.:shhh:

The interior is not as plush as the 3's, no question about that. I found the ride comparable to the 3.

There's MORE rear seat room in the JK. More headroom, legroom and hiproom. What may be throwing you off is the back of the rear seat. It's angle is more verticle then on the 3 and thus, IMO, not as comfortable as the 3.

Front and rear lockers, unbelievable approach and departure angles, more clearance, longer wheelbase... The JK is the best "out of the box" 4x4 on the market. It's not the best 4x4 to take on trips and to the mall. It's not nearly comfortable enough.

I've said it before, the JK will outperform the 3 and 2 stock vs stock. That's just the way it is. And a lifted JK is going to kill a similarly prepped 2/3.

But yeah, it's not as plush and comfy.

Re: JK vs. H3
 

I have said it before and will say it again, I don't really care which is the best out of the box wheeler, since well over 90% of my seat time is on the road the H3 is the best fit for me. I was thinking earlier today about this debate as I sat behind a new JK. When comparing base vs base, which is better? Just curious because most of the comparisons that I see are a Rubi against an H3. I understand the Rubi is an incredible wheeler out of the box but what about the rest of the models? I realize they can be modded easier but that is not what we are talking about here either. Not trying to stir the pot, just curious.

Re: JK vs. H3
 

This thread is going on 6 months...

The H-4 will be out soon.

let this die already.....

RYD

Re: JK vs. H3
 

You do realize that you just added to it right? ;)

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fisted for ya, tis nice being on the ignore

Re: JK vs. H3
 

You bought the right truck for yourself, there's no doubt about that. I'd get an H3 also, if comparing, if I spent so much time tooling around in it, but I don't.

The SFA is stronger than the Hummer IFS so the base vs base should theoretically tip toward the JK. It's also lighter and has more ground clearance.

But, as stated before, the JK is not nearly as polished on the interior as the 3.

Re: JK vs. H3
 

Take the Rubi out and it's much, much harder to draw a conclusion on wheeling. I think the H3 would be a much better peformer.

Without the stabi-disco, the reliability of the D44s, the better t-case, f/r lockers, etc of the Rubi, the Sahara and the X just don't cut the mustard offroad, IMO.

Re: JK vs. H3
 

Yeah but you couldn't keep those axles under the JK doing anything remotely difficult. They're tiny and would be snapping way too often.

Also, IMO, without being about to disco the front, the SFA isn't all that much better than the IFS.

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Remember the 44s, t-case, diffs, and trans are beefier internally than the prior years.

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The JK and the H3 both suck! :fdance: :jump:

The Fj is way better

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that's on the rubi

Sahara and X has D30 and D35 and different T-case

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:jump: :jump: :jump: :jump: :jump: :jump: :jump: :jump:

Re: JK vs. H3
 

What you trying to say here :twak: ;)

Re: JK vs. H3
 

That is what I figured. Again, not trying to stir the pot or say mine is better than yours but just curious. I just hope that Hummer comes out with something soon that is truly a top contender against the likes of a Rubi when talking strictly off road.

Re: JK vs. H3
 

We don't drive our 2 very much, so everyday driving is irrelavent. Should have been more clear.:D

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Oh yeah... brain freeze.

They suck.:giggling:

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The problem with Hummer right now, is not only does it not offer an ultimate off-roader in stock form. What it does offer is a pain in the ass to modify to make it perform. They also don't go to the lengths that Toyota and Jeep did to push the vehicle pre-production to get the aftermarket ready for the vehicle so that it could be done. Well, except for the bling side.

Re: JK vs. H3
 

FZJ80 > than ALL!

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:jump: :giggling: :jump:

Re: JK vs. H3
 

What? C'mon man. Real men make their own stuff. ;) :D

Re: JK vs. H3
 

How about a color pic of the final product.

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:jump::jump:

I realize the numbers are bigger for JK rear room and whatnot, but when you actually hop in there, it doesn't seem like it. It's also harder to get in and out of the back seat. But for close to $30K on a Rubi Unlimited, the interior is just a POS.

I can see why it has more cargo room, and the answer lies in that it's covered in a paper thin shell vs. all the extra trim/sheet metal on the H3. I did like the amount of room with all the seats folded though.

On the upside, the tires cost a lot less to replace.... :dancingbanana:

Re: JK vs. H3
 

Nice dress, I think.

Re: JK vs. H3
 

you are a fucking weirdo

Re: JK vs. H3
 

HaHa, you're the one with the monkey anus avatar.:D:D

DIE THREAD! DIE!

Re: JK vs. H3
 

:D :giggling:

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Though, I am not the one with a feather duster posed next to my dick in a picture I posted on the internet.:confused:

Re: JK vs. H3
 

http://www.moabtradingpost.org/adven...g-daylight.php
Hum Hum !!!! this what im talkin bout ;) you silly hummer - jeepers :p :beerchug: :jump:

Re: JK vs. H3
 

I scanned quickly, but did not see anything about either vehicle. and I'm yer bro here. but seriously, I am thinking about trading in my wifes bmw for the new jk. really because it has every imaginable aftermarket goody (and cheap) that would make it the perfect wheeling 4wd. no, it is not a hummer, and nowhere near the comfort. but it has promise for being a straight offroad/hunting vehicle. I would drive my hummer to the ranch to to drive the jeep.

and this is from a Land Rover convert, turned h3 diehard. and I have bashed jeep drivers just like I bashed trans-am drivers. I believe this is the first 'off the shelf' jeep "SUV" that is worthy of TX mud and can carry five Texas fat boys to shoot some ****.

Re: JK vs. H3
 

the least you could do is invite some fellow elcova hummer buds to some duck hunting over there.

Re: JK vs. H3
 

Admittedly, I have not driven the JK. But I have passed and parked by enough of them to say this -

*WAYYYYY UGLY* :fdance:

And to think I considered buying one in the beginning, based upon their legendary ancestor :crying:

Re: JK vs. H3
 

if you are ever headed this way, look me up. there are atleast two ducks in TX :D

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we are loaded up, but I don't have anywhere to hunt anymore

Re: JK vs. H3
 

I just go rid of a "Heep GC", glad I did, replaced rotors on that pile every year, not too mention the long term durability of special parts as the stealer calls them, i.e. control modules that go bad frequently to the the tune of $1500! Let me look back on my experiece with the almighty "veryhokee".
6,000 [bought it new] ring and pinion goes tits up, 2 fuel pumps by 15,000. Shall I go on???

get the hummer.

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Re: JK vs. H3
 

where are you?

Re: JK vs. H3
 

MS

Re: JK vs. H3
 

Y'know what? Jeep COULD'VE hit a home run with the four door Wrangler. All they had to do is use the drive train from the Power Wagon. Hell, with the Hemi, the front and rear solid axles with lockers, winch, skids, etc. I'D buy one! But no, they did what they did.

Read the latest Consumer Reports, they weren't kind to the JK, OR the FJ.

Re: JK vs. H3
 

No.