<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jaybird:
and unlike you 2, I have wheeled in the funland, and wheeled a high mobility multipurpose wheeled vehicle in similar terrain local to the funland. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I'll make the assumption you are wanting here that you were kicked out of the army because of the don't tell part rule. If so, the funlands must be pretty easy going if you are comparing it to what you did while driving a HMMWV in service.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jaybird:
and unlike you 2, I have wheeled in the funland, and wheeled a high mobility multipurpose wheeled vehicle in similar terrain local to the funland. If you're such a capable driver, come on out and show me how it's done, if you're as good as you think, there's plenty of events here that I'd like to see an H2 compete in and win. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>How did you get to the age of 35 without stepping in front of a truck. Damn.... do you guys practice using your heads as chocks?

Show me some pictures of 2 or 3 year old stock competition vehicles? Fcking moron.

sfox....Too Funny! I swear that clip never gets old!

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by shipbldr:
I daggers in the ass stuff that bothers me.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>
What daggers? It's true, show me one post where you have complemented someone on thier video work or trip report photos? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I do not want to take sides cause I havn't watched the video totally yet. Still mad that I couldn't go. Not only has Charles complemented people but I do believe he used some of my video and pictures from our trip in August.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DennisAJC:
<span class="ev_code_WHITE">.</span>

[quote]Originally posted by hummog:
Charles

Yes, Charles could definitely use a little more clearance and some better aggressive tires <span class="ev_code_RED">DUH And mabye a set of functioning nuts</span>

.<span class="ev_code_WHITE">.</span> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Charles is the only H2 that I have seen do VooDoo at Paragon twice. Sure he got stuck but atleast he tried it.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DennisAJC:
LMAO!!!!

Mabye we can meet somewhere in teh middle?

Utah looks good. H2 Dominated Country. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Too totally different terrians. Don't get me wrong we all want to get out west but they are totally different.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DennisAJC:
Cool video of H1s .

Eventhough instead of finessing the terrain they would cut down the obstacle.

What do you expect? Everyone to brown nose?

TOTALLY sucked. That is all. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That is how Paragon started. Hell half the park was done buy cutting the trails from scratch.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CO Hummer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jaybird:
and unlike you 2, I have wheeled in the funland, and wheeled a high mobility multipurpose wheeled vehicle in similar terrain local to the funland. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh great. Another Jeep Liberty weekend warrior has arrived. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


I myself own an 05 libby, I agree it was NEVER intended to be on the trail and it will never go there. You see I know that, but I know it will go to work and back and to the mall as it was intended and that is why I have it. I have real trail rigs also, I dont need to beat on a street queen and pretend its something its not. The libby is kinda like an H2 if you want my honest opinion. Theres nothing wrong with an H2 by any means and if someone wants to own and wheel one and respect this hobby and others who do it than good for them, they are my people (and if thats you please dont read any further as I think your A-OK and I have no intentions to offend you) but for you turd burglers who flap the gums, disrespect the hobby and the people doing it (paragon and others)here we go. Sure you own a 4wd and a 4wd can go off-road, did you guys just figure that out or something because the H2 is far from anything more capable than a blazer, tahoe or anything actually. You guys do know it is just a GM 2500 right, same exact thing with suspension parts interchangable and everything? The H2 has not earned respect in the wheelin world, has not earned a reputation and with mouth breathers like you few poluting the h2 gene pool it never will. What the fawk is you guys problem....oh wait, I think I figured it out...and since you pulled out the "your a bum, clean your trailer" I'll go there too...You guys bitching are just your average middle age tools who were over sheltered, under nurtured, never had a real life, an ambition, a hobby or fun even. Now your like lookin back goin wow, I'm half way to dead, the best years are behind me and I hate my life, I need something. So you get this idea right...."I know...I need a hummer, its badass, it will make me a man, women will flock to me, I'll pretend to look successful, it will be great". Now not able to afford a real hummer (or you would own one) and wanting to pretend like you can afford one you go and drop the wad, waste the retirment on a H2 thinkin it will pass as a real hummer right. Now your broke, still hating life, still not getting any ass, still not earning any respect.. and your sitting there with a blinged out 2500 chevy thats going to continue to suck the life out of you. That brings us to now, life still sux and with no other resources you resort to name calling in attempts to degrade others trying to feel better about yourselves, your ****ty ass lives and the POS bleeding you dry in the driveway. You see, I KNOW that the name calling, welfare, burger king comments are all you have left when you resort to them, if you had real knowledge or better yet real respect for your hobby or your vehicle you wouldnt resort to such ****. I've flushed turds down the bowel (I mean droped turds in my outhouse) that were better than you bums....oh and if it makes you feel any more ****ty about your wasted existance I could pay cash for an H2 if I wanted one. Your burker king trailer deal is not going to work on me....hahaa. So You got what you wanted now, your balls are busted, your losing sleep tonight, soon you'll have the steel in your mouth and the note wrote for anyone who will read it, I got you all figured out. HAAHAHA You guys crack me up, thanx for the time fellers, I've trully enjoyed it.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Psychobilly:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CO Hummer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jaybird:
and unlike you 2, I have wheeled in the funland, and wheeled a high mobility multipurpose wheeled vehicle in similar terrain local to the funland. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh great. Another Jeep Liberty weekend warrior has arrived. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


I myself own an 05 libby, I agree it was NEVER intended to be on the trail and it will never go there. You see I know that, but I know it will go to work and back and to the mall as it was intended and that is why I have it. I have real trail rigs also, I dont need to beat on a street queen and pretend its something its not. The libby is kinda like an H2 if you want my honest opinion. Theres nothing wrong with an H2 by any means and if someone wants to own and wheel one and respect this hobby and others who do it than good for them, they are my people (and if thats you please dont read any further as I think your A-OK and I have no intentions to offend you) but for you turd burglers who flap the gums, disrespect the hobby and the people doing it (paragon and others)here we go. Sure you own a 4wd and a 4wd can go off-road, did you guys just figure that out or something because the H2 is far from anything more capable than a blazer, tahoe or anything actually. You guys do know it is just a GM 2500 right, same exact thing with suspension parts interchangable and everything? The H2 has not earned respect in the wheelin world, has not earned a reputation and with mouth breathers like you few poluting the h2 gene pool it never will. What the fawk is you guys problem....oh wait, I think I figured it out...and since you pulled out the "your a bum, clean your trailer" I'll go there too...You guys bitching are just your average middle age tools who were over sheltered, under nurtured, never had a real life, an ambition, a hobby or fun even. Now your like lookin back goin wow, I'm half way to dead, the best years are behind me and I hate my life, I need something. So you get this idea right...."I know...I need a hummer, its badass, it will make me a man, women will flock to me, I'll pretend to look successful, it will be great". Now not able to afford a real hummer (or you would own one) and wanting to pretend like you can afford one you go and drop the wad, waste the retirment on a H2 thinkin it will pass as a real hummer right. Now your broke, still hating life, still not getting any ass, still not earning any respect.. and your sitting there with a blinged out 2500 chevy thats going to continue to suck the life out of you. That brings us to now, life still sux and with no other resources you resort to name calling in attempts to degrade others trying to feel better about yourselves, your ****ty ass lives and the POS bleeding you dry in the driveway. You see, I KNOW that the name calling, welfare, burger king comments are all you have left when you resort to them, if you had real knowledge or better yet real respect for your hobby or your vehicle you wouldnt resort to such ****. I've flushed turds down the bowel (I mean droped turds in my outhouse) that were better than you bums....oh and if it makes you feel any more ****ty about your wasted existance I could pay cash for an H2 if I wanted one. Your burker king trailer deal is not going to work on me....hahaa. So You got what you wanted now, your balls are busted, your losing sleep tonight, soon you'll have the steel in your mouth and the note wrote for anyone who will read it, I got you all figured out. HAAHAHA You guys crack me up, thanx for the time fellers, I've trully enjoyed it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Reading that would be kill too many brain cells. I couldn't get past the <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> I myself own an 05 libby </div></BLOCKQUOTE>part. Libby, TJ, YJ, KY. They're all the same anyway.

Paragon/Kyle, you're still wheeling this weekend right?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ckhagman:

Charles is the only H2 that I have seen do VooDoo at Paragon twice. Sure he got stuck but atleast he tried it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>The first time was the best! Sure it hurt the ears, but DAMN it was cool.

Hey, check out this thing. I read on the internet it uses the same frame as the Liberty, YJ, KJ things. It's also TrailRated just like the Rubi! This thing is going to be a monster on the trails!

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
Hey, check out this thing. I read on the internet it uses the same frame as the Liberty, YJ, KJ things. It's also TrailRated just like the Rubi! This thing is going to be a monster on the trails!
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Here's one at Paragon that repeatedly tried to roll over and play dead. Took a few of us to keep it on it's feet.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Dan:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
Hey, check out this thing. I read on the internet it uses the same frame as the Liberty, YJ, KJ things. It's also TrailRated just like the Rubi! This thing is going to be a monster on the trails!
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Here's one at Paragon that repeatedly tried to roll over and play dead. Took a few of us to keep it on it's feet. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I can't believe dogs are allowed out there.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
Paragon/Kyle, you're still wheeling this weekend right? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>There's a few other Hummer owners coming up. You guys coming?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Psychobilly:
I myself own an 05 libby, I agree it was NEVER intended to be on the trail and it will never go there. You see I know that, but I know it will go to work and back and to the mall as it was intended and that is why I have it. I have real trail rigs also, I dont need to beat on a street queen and pretend its something its not. The libby is kinda like an H2 if you want my honest opinion. Theres nothing wrong with an H2 by any means and if someone wants to own and wheel one and respect this hobby and others who do it than good for them, they are my people (and if thats you please dont read any further as I think your A-OK and I have no intentions to offend you) but for you turd burglers who flap the gums, disrespect the hobby and the people doing it (paragon and others)here we go. Sure you own a 4wd and a 4wd can go off-road, did you guys just figure that out or something because the H2 is far from anything more capable than a blazer, tahoe or anything actually. You guys do know it is just a GM 2500 right, same exact thing with suspension parts interchangable and everything? The H2 has not earned respect in the wheelin world, has not earned a reputation and with mouth breathers like you few poluting the h2 gene pool it never will. What the fawk is you guys problem....oh wait, I think I figured it out...and since you pulled out the "your a bum, clean your trailer" I'll go there too...You guys bitching are just your average middle age tools who were over sheltered, under nurtured, never had a real life, an ambition, a hobby or fun even. Now your like lookin back goin wow, I'm half way to dead, the best years are behind me and I hate my life, I need something. So you get this idea right...."I know...I need a hummer, its badass, it will make me a man, women will flock to me, I'll pretend to look successful, it will be great". Now not able to afford a real hummer (or you would own one) and wanting to pretend like you can afford one you go and drop the wad, waste the retirment on a H2 thinkin it will pass as a real hummer right. Now your broke, still hating life, still not getting any ass, still not earning any respect.. and your sitting there with a blinged out 2500 chevy thats going to continue to suck the life out of you. That brings us to now, life still sux and with no other resources you resort to name calling in attempts to degrade others trying to feel better about yourselves, your ****ty ass lives and the POS bleeding you dry in the driveway. You see, I KNOW that the name calling, welfare, burger king comments are all you have left when you resort to them, if you had real knowledge or better yet real respect for your hobby or your vehicle you wouldnt resort to such ****. I've flushed turds down the bowel (I mean droped turds in my outhouse) that were better than you bums....oh and if it makes you feel any more ****ty about your wasted existance I could pay cash for an H2 if I wanted one. Your burker king trailer deal is not going to work on me....hahaa. So You got what you wanted now, your balls are busted, your losing sleep tonight, soon you'll have the steel in your mouth and the note wrote for anyone who will read it, I got you all figured out. HAAHAHA You guys crack me up, thanx for the time fellers, I've trully enjoyed it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Ever heard of a "line break"

WOW Ken...

Is that pic of the "jeep car" real? Or a photo chop?

I think it looks sort of cool.

(Not going to get one, but still easy on the eye...)

It's Jeep's new Compass. TrailRated Beatch!

Paragon, yes we'll be there with the usual group plus a few newbies with H3's.

Boy, I hit a soft spot and thats swell cuz it was my intentions. And yes, I can in fact pay cash for an h2 but I'd rather take a ice pick in the eye. Sorry, just not my speed.

DO your homework too, libby is car based ifs (kinda like the h2, ever break a tie rod?) the yj is solid front axle, how can you say the car it the same as a kj which is the same a yj and so on, There is a BIG dofference between a kj and a yj. Yes it may be the same as a libby, I dont know but it is likely however its like I said, the libby sux for wheelin, I know it, never argued against it.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Psychobilly:
DO your homework too, libby is car based ifs (kinda like the h2, ever break a tie rod?) the yj is solid front axle, how can you say the car it the same as a kj which is the same a yj and so on, There is a BIG dofference between a kj and a yj. Yes it may be the same as a libby, I dont know but it is likely however its like I said, the libby sux for wheelin, I know it, never argued against it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Get confused kid? They're all TrailRated so they're all the same. So what if one has an SFA. They still perform almost identical on the trails. Same frames, same tires, same seats, same grills.... Same cars.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
...plus a few newbies with H3's. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Very cool. Make sure to take plenty of pics

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
Paragon, yes we'll be there with the usual group plus a few newbies with H3's. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I'll get Stephanie to cook up a big breakfest for you guys.

HAHAHA! that was a good one, gotta give ya that. Fact of the matter is if i hated hummers I wouldnt have them out at the funland now would I??? I have nothing against hummer or the h2 (problem is with know it all rookies) I just personally wouldnt take an h2 over a subaru for trail use, thats my opinion and I'm entitled to it. I'm considering an h3 though, maybe looking for one that was already beat on, maybe theft recovery or something that I can cut up, add some tube, slap a solid axle under it and make a street legal wheeler out of it. I think the h3 has some favorable charactoristics for trail use and looks cool too.

Watch out billy. There are "Some" here that like em shaved.

But let's get back on track here. IMO. you can drive a civic equipped with an winch and chainsaw through faglands.

That's all I saw. Winch, chainsaws, and a whole lot of nothing. I suggest you look up some of the REAL videos on this Forum. You might learn something.

*HINT*: There's a reason why this video is not stickied.


I'll agree with you on the H3 looking cool though. It's an H2 clone except smaller and less power.

Now run along pussy .

P.S. Funny how your profile disappeared off freakdates.com right after you posted here.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Dan:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
Hey, check out this thing. I read on the internet it uses the same frame as the Liberty, YJ, KJ things. It's also TrailRated just like the Rubi! This thing is going to be a monster on the trails!
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Here's one at Paragon that repeatedly tried to roll over and play dead. Took a few of us to keep it on it's feet. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I can't believe dogs are allowed out there. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No, that's just Pops.

Yeah dennis, since we had stock vehicles and the weather was crappy (mud slick) we had to stick to the easiest stuff we got up there but whats that say for you? I'll make you a deal. Since you know it all and you may just be dumb enough to do it I'll pay your gas for you to make the treck from up there in canadia to show me how its done. Heres the deal though, closest thing I got to a stock vehicle for trail use is a rodeo on 31's, nothing special really. I'll bet you 20 grand against your 20 grand or h2 (needs to be handed over in fair-excellent condition so I can trade it or sell) saying your h2 cant follow my rodeo on them trails at the funland. Lets see if you really believe the **** you sling around here buddy ol pal o mine. Getting your beat down busted ass home after this lil venture is up to you. What you say, I say back your ass up, you talk the big game, you got nothing to lose, its just a rodeo and the trails are cake anyway right? hahaha I wont get my hopes up.



And again, I stress, before this gets deep around here I have no gripe with any h2 or the majority of normal folks who own and enjoy them.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Psychobilly:
And again, I stress, before this gets deep around here I have no gripe with any h2 or the majority of normal folks who own and enjoy them. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Now you're just a lying punk.

And again, If I was lying would I have hummers out to the funland? Let me add even more; because of the fact that the property is not insured to operate as an off-road park (zoning and other issues) very few folks ever get to see it. So let me ask you this, if the hummer club had a private off-road park would they invite me out in my trail rig, especially with no insurance policy, no fee's, fairly loose rules like wheelin after dark and so on? I think not! So now where's the hate? I think I could learn to hate you guys real quick though, you have no ****in respect for your hobby.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Psychobilly:
And again, If I was lying would I have hummers out to the funland? Let me add even more; because of the fact that the property is not insured to operate as an off-road park (zoning and other issues) very few folks ever get to see it. So let me ask you this, if the hummer club had a private off-road park would they invite me out in my trail rig, especially with no insurance policy, no fee's, fairly loose rules like wheelin after dark and so on? I think not! So now where's the hate? I think I could learn to hate you guys real quick though, you have no ****in respect for your hobby. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Psychobilly:
....the H2 is far from anything more capable than a blazer, tahoe or anything actually... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Care to try again, dumbass!

"you have no ****in respect for your hobby." What part of left field did that comment come from. I believe we are the ones telling you hillbilly knobs to open your fcking eyes to the world outside of your own backwards county.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Psychobilly:
I'll bet you 20 grand against your 20 grand or h2 (needs to be handed over in fair-excellent condition so I can trade it or sell) saying your h2 cant follow my rodeo on them trails at the funland. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

And I bet the trails chosen would be the narrow trails that rodeo could fit through and the H2 could right?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Psychobilly:
So let me ask you this, if the hummer club had a private off-road park would they invite me out in my trail rig, especially with no insurance policy, no fee's, fairly loose rules like wheelin after dark and so on? I think not! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just because you assume something does not make it true. Most members here go out and wheel with whatever anyone brings along and don't care. Give one concrete reason why you would make that assumption.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Psychobilly:
the property is not insured to operate as an off-road park (zoning and other issues) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Zoning has nothing to do with insurance. Get a fcking zoning variance or get the zoning change. I think it's the "other issues." Like not being able to afford the insurance costs. You would think if you could "pay cash for an H2" you could afford a little piece of mind like insurance.

Any owners' out here of both an H1 and a H2? I personnally have both and know, first-hand, that the off-roading capability of each is no where near comparision.
Of course, I'm sure though someone will have something smart to say. Let's leave the one-sided opinions out of this one and here from other joint owners.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by hummog:
Any owners' out here of both an H1 and a H2? <span class="ev_code_RED">YES</span> I personnally have both and know, first-hand, that the off-roading capability of each is no where near comparision. <span class="ev_code_RED">BS</span>
Of course, I'm sure though someone will have something smart to say. <span class="ev_code_RED">I AM SMART</span> Let's leave the one-sided opinions out of this one and here from other joint owners.<span class="ev_code_RED">THEN YOU SHOULD HAVE KEPT YOUR YAP SHUT, YOU JUST GAVE YOUR ONE-SIDED OPINION</span> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

How is owning both, and having an opinion based on that, one-sided?

You can't answer this question so just leave it alone. I'm sure there's others out there who have both so let's just let them chime in.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by hummog:
How is owning both, and having an opinion based on that, one-sided?

You can't answer this question so just leave it alone. I'm sure there's others out there who have both so let's just let them chime in. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Maybe you need to go back to smart school. An opinion, by natural conclusion, is one-sided. It's YOUR opinion, regardless of your experience, ownership, sexual orientation. The fact is, around here YOUR opinion matters about as much as T-bones at a vegan convention.

You're so right........and probably if your parents had listened to the doctors opinion when you were born, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by hummog:
You're so right........and probably if your parents had listened to the doctors opinion when you were born, we wouldn't be having this conversation. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Nice try... there were no doctors present when I was born.