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hyperion78 12-13-2005 06:47 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by bparker:
I started to laugh when you posted this as i agree as well - however - if you think about it, you must give the origional H2 drivers alot of respect due to the fact of HOW MUCH $HIT they had to put up with. I mean; media, friends, know it alls, tree huggers and not to mention vandalism!

Those guys over the past years have really had to grow some thick skin to have the bawls to continue to post in a public area. So its no surprise to see them be a little jumpy. Look at what they have been through....

Also, look at the H3s. We are getting off easy. I mean we werent sure if we would catch hell; but honsetly I feel as if the H3 has changed alot of minds from Hummer Haters to Maybe a Future Hummer Driver....


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by hyperion78:
....there are a few people that do seem to over top really quickly, but from what I noticed it's not normally the H3 drivers to go off first. No offense to the H2 guys, just an observation. Just a different midset for the two groups, or maybe they just need a hug :-P </div></BLOCKQUOTE> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Like I said all they need is a hug. HIhummer can help with that.

R2 12-14-2005 03:43 AM

This sucks, I hope my H3 is ok

BigBill 12-15-2005 01:04 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by NEOCON1:
this many vehicles ? you said you heard of two besides yours thats not many </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Give the guy a break!

Let's focus on the real issue - is there a problem with the engine overheating causing a seal break in the head?

2 vehicles? Yes I realize the numbers aren't a lot, but on a new vehicle, I would think that having 2 occurrences of the same issue might warrant an investigation.

Just my .02!

Bill

NEOCON1 12-15-2005 02:00 AM

tell your dealer you want another one so we can stop kickin this dead horse and send ~ some free crap

DRTYFN 12-15-2005 05:37 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Modley:
I wish I had never bought my H3. I shoulda known better. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

This isn't venting. That's being a pissant troll. GFY!!

dchou1107 01-05-2007 12:38 AM

Re: Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.
 
My h3 has been at the dealer for 2 days already cause they are replacing my cylinder head. I am under the impression that I will not have the H3 back for a few more days. How long does it take? and is it a serious problem where I should be thinking about selling the car. I currently have 34K miles on it

Hmmm2 01-05-2007 12:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dchou1107
My h3 has been at the dealer for 2 days already cause they are replacing my cylinder head. I am under the impression that I will not have the H3 back for a few more days. How long does it take? and is it a serious problem where I should be thinking about selling the car. I currently have 34K miles on it

I had the cylinder head replaced somewheres around 10,000 miles (if I recall) ..and it took a few days because they had to get parts. I have 19,000 on it now and don't have any problems with that part of the vehicle. I think quite a few here have had that problem, but I haven't heard of anyone having recurring engine problems afterwards.

H3chicky 01-05-2007 02:45 AM

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Just got mine back today from having the head replaced. I have almost 28,000 miles on it. I will keep you updated on how it runs.

Barb :)

Dani 01-06-2007 03:08 AM

Re: Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dchou1107
My h3 has been at the dealer for 2 days already cause they are replacing my cylinder head. I am under the impression that I will not have the H3 back for a few more days. How long does it take? and is it a serious problem where I should be thinking about selling the car. I currently have 34K miles on it


When I had this problem with my H3- it took the dealer about 4 days to get it back to me.

boomer 01-28-2007 10:16 PM

Re: Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.
 
just got back from dealer with check engine light, 45% leakbuy in #1 cyl. i was told they have replaced lots of heads for same reason,soft spot in cast by #1 cyl.also for what its worth, gm has been giving extended warr. out to those with problem if you ask and keep on them

Steve - SanJose 01-29-2007 05:48 PM

Re: Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.
 
Interesting that these head problems are showing up on H3's with higher mileage (over 10, 20, 30K miles). I thought the relatively rare problem would show up earlier.

Av1ator 01-31-2007 03:09 AM

Re: Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.
 
2 heads in the last year and a half for me. First round 12,000 second round 37,000. Warrenty about to expire.. I gotta get rid of this thing.
IN the shop about 3 months total in the last year and a half.

Steve - SanJose 01-31-2007 03:27 AM

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I was at the dealer today and the service writer was explaining to a customer the problem and need for head replacement. Not good, but at least that was under warranty.

Sewie 01-31-2007 03:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Av1ator
2 heads in the last year and a half for me. First round 12,000 second round 37,000. Warrenty about to expire.. I gotta get rid of this thing.
IN the shop about 3 months total in the last year and a half.


If that's true, then contact Hummer and demand they upgrade your warranty to 100K miles. :rolleyes:

Av1ator 01-31-2007 03:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sewie
If that's true, then contact Hummer and demand they upgrade your warranty to 100K miles. :rolleyes:


It is true I don't make this stuff up. You can review my thread My H3 is Broken which describes what I went through my first head change. Now it has been in the shop for more than two weeks and they say it is going to be another week or so while they get the parts.

So exactly who do I make this demand to upgrade my warranty to??
Have they done this for anyone else? I have been thinking I will trade it for an 07 and get the 100K warrenty IF the dealer will make the deal sweet enough. The salesman says he will let me have it at his invoice but I am not so sure that is a good deal.

Thanks for any help anyone can give me.

Sewie 01-31-2007 07:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Av1ator
So exactly who do I make this demand to upgrade my warranty to?? Have they done this for anyone else?


Call Customer Assistance at 1-866-HUMMER6 and open a case. Demand was probably the wrong word to use. But explain what problems you've had and what you have been through. Then ask them to upgrade your warranty. Obviously, there's no guarantee they'll give you anything. They may just offer GMPP or service vouchers, or just extend the warranty on the parts that have failed. And yes, some of us have been compensated in some way when we had major recurring problems.

n5bxp 02-01-2007 12:32 AM

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The truth is that GM shipped the H3's with a defective head. All H3's made before 4/1/06 have heads that are defective. After that date, the H3 was built with new heads.

Mine was made in March 06. I bought it April 29 06.This means that mine was made, and was sold, with GM knowing that it has a head that has a fairly good chance of developing a problem. If I had known about the problem I would have delayed the purchase for a month. I am very upset with this.

I took the truck to Colorado in September, ran several 4x4 roads, a 3000 mile round trip. I am not sure I would do this again, and risk the problem developing a long way from home, and then have to deal with a week long repair a long way from home. This is a vehicle disabling problem.

To ad insult to injury, the 07 H3, which does not have a defective head, has a 100,000 mile warranty.

Everyone with a vehicle made before 4/1/06 should complain to Hummer, and GM. This was sold as a premier brand, and we should not have been treated like this.

Sewie 02-01-2007 12:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by n5bxp
The truth is that GM shipped the H3's with a defective head. All H3's made before 4/1/06 have heads that are defective. After that date, the H3 was built with new heads.

Mine was made in March 06. I bought it April 29 06.This means that mine was made, and was sold, with GM knowing that it has a head that has a fairly good chance of developing a problem. If I had known about the problem I would have delayed the purchase for a month. I am very upset with this.

I took the truck to Colorado in September, ran several 4x4 roads, a 3000 mile round trip. I am not sure I would do this again, and risk the problem developing a long way from home, and then have to deal with a week long repair a long way from home. This is a vehicle disabling problem.

To ad insult to injury, the 07 H3, which does not have a defective head, has a 100,000 mile warranty.

Everyone with a vehicle made before 4/1/06 should complain to Hummer, and GM. This was sold as a premier brand, and we should not have been treated like this.



Back the fawk up there sparky. Why don't you try reading through the rest of this thread, and the other threads about this issue before you chase down GM with torches and pitchforks. :twak:

My truck, as well as many of the H3's I wheel with were built in '05. To my knowledge, none of them have had the cylinder head problem. Hell, I've never even had a check engine light (probably just jinxed myself so FU in advance). If "all H3's" built over a period of almost a year had a defective cylinder head don't you think there'd be more people on here complaining about it. We'd probably also be seeing a recall. Did you get your notice? Didn't think so. :rolleyes:

H3Eric 02-01-2007 12:51 AM

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My engine light just came on and the head needs to be replaced. To concur with the previous poster I bought my H3 when it just came out so probably made before te date mentioned in previous post. The dealer ship recognized the problem and is taking care of it without any issues. without making any advertisement here I love getting good service from a good dealership.

Thanks,
Eric

H3Eric 02-01-2007 12:53 AM

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Just to be funny, it is the head of the H3 not mine

:jump:
Eric

n5bxp 02-01-2007 01:17 AM

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So if there is no problem, why were H3's and Colorado Pickups made after 4/1/06 have newly designed heads. The head problem is more common than you seem to think.

I traded a 2005 4x4 Colorado for the H3. Go look at the Colorado web sites. The problem is common there also.

This should be a recall.

HummBebe 02-01-2007 01:32 AM

Re: Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n5bxp
The truth is that GM shipped the H3's with a defective head.

According to who.....you?

All H3's made before 4/1/06 have heads that are defective. After that date, the H3 was built with new heads.

And that information was provided to you.....how?

Mine was made in March 06. I bought it April 29 06.This means that mine was made, and was sold, with GM knowing that it has a head that has a fairly good chance of developing a problem.

You can prove this?


If I had known about the problem I would have delayed the purchase for a month. I am very upset with this.

That's obvious.....emotional nellie:rolleyes:

I took the truck to Colorado in September, ran several 4x4 roads, a 3000 mile round trip. I am not sure I would do this again, and risk the problem developing a long way from home, and then have to deal with a week long repair a long way from home. This is a vehicle disabling problem.

Mine was built in April/May '05, I have 43K miles on it. No check engine light.

To ad insult to injury, the 07 H3, which does not have a defective head, has a 100,000 mile warranty.

Now you're just whining.

Everyone with a vehicle made before 4/1/06 should complain to Hummer, and GM. This was sold as a premier brand, and we should not have been treated like this.

Say what? "My H3 could potentially have a bad cylinder head"???


Eveyone who has been around the block once, knows the inherent risks of purchasing a "First Model Year" vehicle. GM has yet to leave me in the learch, thanks mostly in part to my Dealership. (HUMMER OF SACRAMENTO ROCKS :) )

n5bxp 02-01-2007 03:21 AM

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GM Bulletin # 1845907. Dated 7/6/06. The vins with defective heads are less than 68287591. This is the last 8 digits of the vin.

HummBebe 02-01-2007 04:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by n5bxp
GM Bulletin # 1845907. Dated 7/6/06. The vins with defective heads are less than 68287591. This is the last 8 digits of the vin.

Show me......

Sewie 02-01-2007 06:13 AM

Re: Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n5bxp
So if there is no problem, why were H3's and Colorado Pickups made after 4/1/06 have newly designed heads. The head problem is more common than you seem to think.

I traded a 2005 4x4 Colorado for the H3. Go look at the Colorado web sites. The problem is common there also.

This should be a recall.


Where did anyone say there isn't a problem. I gave an example rebutting your stupid claim that all H3's built before April '06 have defective cylinder heads. Obviously there have been problems with some engines and GM has addressed the problem. So quit being such a drama queen. :rolleyes:

BTW, what qualifies you to determine when GM, or any automobile manufacturer, should issue a recall?

Av1ator 02-02-2007 11:29 PM

Re: Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sewie
Call Customer Assistance at 1-866-HUMMER6 and open a case. Demand was probably the wrong word to use. But explain what problems you've had and what you have been through. Then ask them to upgrade your warranty. Obviously, there's no guarantee they'll give you anything. They may just offer GMPP or service vouchers, or just extend the warranty on the parts that have failed. And yes, some of us have been compensated in some way when we had major recurring problems.


I called Customer Assistance yesterday and today they gave me an 84 month 100,000 mile warrenty extension on the engine only. Seems fair, I did ask for the warrenty to be extended to the entire drivetrain but they weren't willing to go that far.

I got my H3 back today, after almost three weeks in the shop. The new head is performing perfectly so far.

Thanks for the suggestion, it certainly paid off for me!

Sewie 02-04-2007 09:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Av1ator
Thanks for the suggestion, it certainly paid off for me!


You're welcome and glad it worked out for ya. :)

fourfourto 02-04-2007 05:08 PM

Re: Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.
 
:popcorn: I noticed originaly heads went bad with lower miles,now I see some have higher miles.
Im at 24,000 miles no problems.:D

Im curious though ,Has anyone with a bad head been using synthetic oil ?
It might take longer for problem to come up.
I have been using synthetic since the 2nd oil change.

Steve - SanJose 02-04-2007 06:22 PM

Re: Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.
 
Yea, I've noticed higher mileage H3''s reporting the problem. But so far I've had no problems at 31,000 hard miles.

Av1ator 02-05-2007 04:08 AM

Re: Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fourfourto

Im curious though ,Has anyone with a bad head been using synthetic oil ?
It might take longer for problem to come up.
I have been using synthetic since the 2nd oil change.


I have used synthetic oil since my second oil change. Just had the second head put on at 37,200 miles.

H3Eric 02-05-2007 05:19 AM

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fourfourto, I have had synthetic oil since the first oil change around 5000 miles. I have now about 24000 miles and my car will go to the shop tomorrow for the first head replacement. my production date is approx. april/may 2005.

Eric

Quote:

Originally Posted by fourfourto
:popcorn: I noticed originaly heads went bad with lower miles,now I see some have higher miles.
Im at 24,000 miles no problems.:D

Im curious though ,Has anyone with a bad head been using synthetic oil ?
It might take longer for problem to come up.
I have been using synthetic since the 2nd oil change.


GPan099 02-05-2007 10:02 PM

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I just returned from the dealership with some bad news.

My check engine light was on, engine was running rough, onstar reported a misfire problem, and the dealer diagnosed the codes which require a head replacement as per the service bulletin.

He ordered the parts, (head, gasket & 16 bolts?) and said the truck would probably be in the shop for a week for repair.

He gave it back to me and will call when the parts arrive. About 10,800 miles on mine w/ 2 oil changes @ 5000 & 10,500 w/ regular oil.

VIN # is below the number indicated on the post.

Casey 02-07-2007 07:15 PM

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Add another to the replacement list. 36k miles. 11/05 build date.

Check engine light came on and codes indicated misfire on #4 cylinder. Dealer informed me I was getting excessive blowby on that cylinder. Waiting on a final resolution from the dealer but will likely be a head replacement.

hmrlvr 02-21-2007 03:26 AM

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Sorry to bring back this long exhausting thread but... I'm having the same problem with my colorado. 5500 miles, it's been in the shop for 31 days with no end in sight. Anyway, most of you tore this poor guy a new one when all he wanted was a little advice. Except for f5, I saw knowone admit to being a little rough on the guy and possibly being wrong about him. I know you hate the trolls but geez at least admit when your wrong. Interesting that towards the end there were alot more owners with this problem. And now all of you who called him a troll have disappeared. As usual though F5 stepped up.
All right, let me have it!

timgco 02-21-2007 03:45 AM

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Mine is going in with 15xxx miles. And from what I was told today, they are backordered.

RMST 02-21-2007 04:19 PM

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Scheduled oil change at Lynch Hummer for last Friday. Check engine light came on Wednesday. Noticed that it was idling rough. Explained this to the service manager and saw a knowing look come over his face. Sure enough they told me it was the cylinder issue and that it could be up to two weeks to repair. Drove off the lot in a Black H3 from enterprise rental. I guess it's always a bummer to have your truck or car in the shop but Lynch has the best service department I've ever been to and they couldn't be more accomodating or supportive. I have complete faith that they will get the problem fixed and after driving the rental for a couple of days it has become very clear to me that my H3 was struggling. I forgot how smooth my truck once was.

Also, if you are in the area you should stop in at Lynch and check out the "Black Widow" edition H3 that they have on the showroom floor. It is unbelievable. I'll take pics when I go back for pick up.

graydog 02-21-2007 06:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hmrlvr
Sorry to bring back this long exhausting thread but... I'm having the same problem with my colorado. 5500 miles, it's been in the shop for 31 days with no end in sight. Anyway, most of you tore this poor guy a new one when all he wanted was a little advice. Except for f5, I saw knowone admit to being a little rough on the guy and possibly being wrong about him. I know you hate the trolls but geez at least admit when your wrong. Interesting that towards the end there were alot more owners with this problem. And now all of you who called him a troll have disappeared. As usual though F5 stepped up.
All right, let me have it!

I agree 100%

Desert Dan 02-21-2007 10:52 PM

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Getting Head!

My check engine light has come on and later gone off several times. Once in cold weather in low range and another going up steep hills in low range and recently in town but always went off. I was in De-Nile hoping it wasn't the dread head fix problem.

The 3rd time my check engine light came on, engine was idling rough, I called onstar from my driveway and they said it was an engine misfire,

I took it to the dealer on Monday and got a free Caddy loan for the day. The dealer said it needed a head replacement.


They ordered the head (2-3 week back log) and said I can dive the truck until the parts get in. The back log tells me this must be happening quite often

I said will a new head fix the problem and the service manager said yes.


I need to check into getting the warranty extended by GM Hummer.
I have 9500 miles on it also with w/ 2 oil changes.

PackerFever 02-22-2007 12:15 AM

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I have been trying to avoid this thread for fear of jinxing my good luck. I just got back from a trip to Las Vegas for a convention, Grand Canyon, and through Moab, (sorry Neocon, I was with three other people and we were hiking, no off road this time) I was going well over 80 mph much of the time and now have of 30k on the ride....Everything is still good.

Has anyone asked if this is specific to Automatics vs 5 speeds? I have a 5 speed stick and feel everything is fine.

lance-n 03-05-2007 05:07 AM

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i sure hope i dont have to drive 1,100 miles back to the dealer!!! cabo to san diego, although it would be a fun trip assuming i don't get stuck in some long stretch of desert highway with no cell service and just greedy bandidos waiting for an easy opportunity!
i have 14,250 miles on mine and about a week or so ago i started noticing a little bit of engine vibration when i stop. i have tried turning off the ac to see if it is just the extra pull on the engine at idle. it doesn't seem to matter whether ac is on or off. i have not had a check engine light come on - ever since i have had the h3. it doesn't seem to be getting worse, but it makes me nervous. i ordered a new fuel filter, as maybe it is full of crap from the sh*tty fuel we get here. mine was built in june of 2005 and i have done several oil changes.
are these the prelim symptoms that others have been experiencing? if so, i would like to prevent the problem before it is unfixable here locally.

F5 please let me know your wisdom!!!!! let me know what you recommend please.

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