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hummer_metal 04-08-2007 12:31 AM

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This is a well design and fabricated winch deck. I purchased the Warn XD9000i and a hard cover. I put it on alone and it took me about an hour including wiring it in.





I chose to use 3M rubber undercoating and asked Cris to ship it to me raw.

Thanks Cris, you can't go wrong with purchasing one of these.

CrisB 04-16-2007 06:12 PM

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Hey Metal, that looks great with the hard cover, where'd you get that?

We've noticed an issue with extremely hard pulls, the grill cage wants to bend out slightly from all the rotational force...working now on fabricating upper attachment points from cage to grill to help, will send out to any buyers with a cage when finished. The metal bumper is actually what's being deformed from the pivot, no bending of the mounts.

Not a huge issue, seeing how many trucks my winch has saved with only a little cage bend in Moab...but is is an issue I want to address. Still seems to be the cheapest way to get a winch on the front.

Demo 04-16-2007 09:37 PM

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That's above and beyond Chris, very cool. Very cool.

hummer_metal 04-17-2007 12:39 AM

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I ordered the hard cover on line, but you can get them locally at any Warn dealer.

I can't find the diggie camera right now, I added two PIAA off road lights to the deck. Looks badass I think....

I have yet to fab up the steel guards to go around the lights, but when the weather breaks and i get time I will complete them.

Also just to mention I am in the planning phase of a new brush guard as well.

The OEM works okay.... But just doesn't identify with my rig, so to speak...

I have tried a few sketches, and already know I am going to use schedule 40 1" pipe and when I am finished black powder coat.

CrisB 04-17-2007 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DemoDaddy79
That's above and beyond Chris, very cool. Very cool.


Thanks Demo....I don't want anyone doing damage to the bumper with the mount, seems it only needs a little reinforcement above to avoid the pivot...we'll see what I can come up with. Whatever it is, it'll require drilling to mount to OEM cage, and I think it'll work with most any other cage as well.

I saw the same setup on another manufacturer's cage/winchmount setup...think it was Rough Country? Upper mounting points to help avoid the rotational force, should work with any grill cage.

Crash ? 04-17-2007 04:36 PM

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What about lowering the mounting plate down to the middle...?? If I said make it a shaped like a T instead of an L would that make any sense..??

Instead of this (side view)

_Winch_
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You have this..
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CrisB 04-17-2007 04:47 PM

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That would fix the rotation, but lower the mount & cut off the approach angle.....and that's too important to lose!

Crash ? 04-18-2007 08:02 PM

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Do you loose anything the way it is now..??? Could it be dropped any at all before it cuts into the approach..??? Every little bit would be helping some...

hummer_metal 04-24-2007 06:30 AM

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Cris I had a chance to use the winch deck today, looks good, no doubt.

But as you mentioned, there is a problem with the pull. I thought the front end of my rig was going to pull off.

My brush guard tweaked down towards the winch deck, and the front of my rig was bent. I stopped the pull because my whole front end was looking bad.

Under a load of 1600lbs I didn't expect it to act like this. :twak:

CrisB 04-24-2007 01:27 PM

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What??? 1600 lb pull & the bumper bent? Doesn't sound right....mine has handled some extreme pulls with no problems, until I really put a full load on it at a low angle.

The root of the problem seems to be the plates welded to the end of the frame for the D-ring attachment points; they are surprisingly thin at 3/16".

I've drawn up new plates to weld on, 3/8" with angle gussets to help prevent the bending. They're being laser-cut this week, will send out to anyone who wants them, no charge. It'll require pulling the bumper & grinding off the old ones, then re-welding new ones on. Also may include 2 supports to go from grill cage to body metal at upper grill.

Easy to fix that bend for now; I pulled my bumper (easy, 6 bolts, took an hour altogether), banged it out some from the inside, and used a pipe-wrench to straighten the mounting plates back up. I can't believe they only used 3/16 steel for those plates, beefing them up should fix the issue.

I want eveyone happy, and for things to work right, and nobody should have to think twice about pulling out the winch.

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SR1355 04-24-2007 02:20 PM

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Hey Cris, Good find on the problem, I suspected it had something the do with what was behind the bumper. Let me know how your coming on mod, I'll voluteer to go get really stuck for your to test out the new design...:jump:

I still need a winch mount once this issue has been resolved.

NEOCON1 04-24-2007 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SR1355
, I'll voluteer to go get really stuck for your to test out the new design...:jump:

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or i can go down some stuff i cant get back up ;) :giggling:

CrisB 04-24-2007 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by NEOCON1
or i can go down some stuff i cant get back up ;) :giggling:


Oh yah??? you know a spot??? winch would come in pretty handy there:giggling:

NEOCON1 04-24-2007 05:26 PM

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hey thats what friends are for :jump:

SR1355 04-24-2007 08:17 PM

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Nothing like a little self rescue is there boys...

:jump: :jump: :jump:

CrisB 04-24-2007 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SR1355
Nothing like a little self rescue is there boys...

:jump: :jump: :jump:


We ran a class on Extraction 101 that day.:OWNED:

SR1355 04-24-2007 10:41 PM

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I thought we were going to do that back a Neo's,,, damn missed out....:giggling:

NEOCON1 04-24-2007 11:36 PM

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we can always do the G run at Neo's-turn again sometime :D :D :D

Hunner 04-25-2007 12:40 AM

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I have used this one a few times on some long hauls. Would this show anything you have not already figured out. I got mine before you made yours. I wanted at first to just have the mount. This is one of those from Teka Toys but Im not sure who made it. The brush guard and plate were welded together. I checked those backing plates after reading this thread.

hummer_metal 04-25-2007 05:22 AM

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What??? 1600 lb pull & the bumper bent? Doesn't sound right....mine has handled some extreme pulls with no problems, until I really put a full load on it at a low angle.

Who said the bumper bent Cris?

I didn't say that, did I???????????

Nothing was bent, I stopped the pull before damage was done. I noted what was going on... Nothing more, nothing less.

This is what I said, note that I have not REVISED what I am sharing...

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Cris I had a chance to use the winch deck today, looks good, no doubt.

But as you mentioned, there is a problem with the pull. I thought the front end of my rig was going to pull off.

My brush guard tweaked down towards the winch deck, and the front of my rig was bent. I stopped the pull because my whole front end was looking bad.

Under a load of 1600lbs I didn't expect it to act like this.

I didn't, so I shared with you what was going on with the winch deck. I paid for it, and used it, and am giving you feedback on its use in the field.


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