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Big Z 07-25-2006 11:13 PM

Re: Buying new pistol, need advice
 
It has taken the BIG 6 already!, will Knock a bison off it's hooves, and has more than enough power to Hit a Bear in the Head and travel completely through it! @ 30 Yds! :eek: The 8" barrel is suppose to be a True 200 Yd Hunter!..I Opted for the Compact 4" Self defense model! :D

Another Big Z Custom in the Makin!..Laser Grip, NiteSights, and Some Special, Loads!..Snake Dens!...I need to Find Snake DEN!...j/k

I'm a goin to Alaska! Fishing! And well armed! ;)

Reality Check!...talking about it is one thing, having to do is another!

Absolutely! defend yourself if you have to! just Bear in mind a few things (intended)....1.) PAPER WORK! if you have to shoot one, (they will know if it self defense!) there will be PLENTY OF IT!......2.) 25 Yards of Mean Bear charging, PLUG UM! You CAN'T out Run!---Last resort option is to shoot, be sure you have to!....VERY Doubtfull!....Making a bunch of noise is best, chucking rock, or cracking one into a tree will 99% of the time send a bear running!

Know the Difference between Griz And Black Bear??



Griz Will Just KILL YA! A Black Bear Likes to Shread and eat a little! ;)

Big Z 07-25-2006 11:17 PM

Re: Buying new pistol, need advice
 
Compare some rounds

Big Z 07-25-2006 11:41 PM

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compare 2

Big Z 07-26-2006 12:17 AM

Re: Buying new pistol, need advice
 
Forgot the Venerable 22 And 22Mag! :D

PARAGON 07-26-2006 12:19 AM

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is that the .500 next to the .223? sheesh

Big Z 07-26-2006 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by PARAGON
is that the .500 next to the .223? sheesh


lol Yep All 440Gr! Waaa Haa!

MovinH2 07-26-2006 01:07 AM

Re: Buying new pistol, need advice
 
Glock all the way. I have a M-17 that is kept under the bed.;)

Big Z 07-26-2006 01:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GeorgeSSSS
Big Z: I'm particularly interested in the effect of the recoil compensator. Be sure to give us some focus on that when you write your report.

Thanks,

George SSSS


Won't have to much for a while. The gun comes with 2 compensators.. one for Hollow Points...One for the rest.

Hear say part--from an owner/shooter/reloader :D --If you've shot 44 mag loads, the barrel raises and pulls to the left, (righty) TRUE!

The 500 has No Pull, and a rise of 6" +/-! Impressive! Getting 3" groups @ 30Yrds, (still working with loads) we'll see! And reloading is about $0.18 a round Vs. $1.10 Plus X Box of 20

More later!

PARAGON 07-26-2006 01:19 AM

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so, can you feel the muzzle blast:eek: :D

Connie_Chung 07-26-2006 02:33 AM

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Guns kill people. This is ridiculous.

PARAGON 07-26-2006 02:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Connie_Chung
Guns kill people. This is ridiculous.

I know.... cool, isn't it.

Connie_Chung 07-26-2006 02:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PARAGON
I know.... cool, isn't it.


I should kill you for your smart alec remarks. :mad:

westhillsat 07-26-2006 02:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Z
Won't have to much for a while. The gun comes with 2 compensators.. one for Hollow Points...One for the rest.

Hear say part--from an owner/shooter/reloader :D --If you've shot 44 mag loads, the barrel raises and pulls to the left, (righty) TRUE!

The 500 has No Pull, and a rise of 6" +/-! Impressive! Getting 3" groups @ 30Yrds, (still working with loads) we'll see! And reloading is about $0.18 a round Vs. $1.10 Plus X Box of 20

More later!


Very cool :cool:

Big Z 07-26-2006 03:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Connie_Chung
Guns kill people. This is ridiculous.


GUNS Don't Kill People! :rolleyes: PEOPLE Kill People!

Saying Guns Kill People Is Like Saying Pencils are Responsible for Bad Spelling! :rolleyes:

Big Z 07-26-2006 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by westhillsat
Hopefully, the bear spray will do its job first :o

And we're only three lots away from the resort on the lake, but still in the woods.
About three miles from the west entrance to Glacier Park.

Last year in the fall, while we were blowing the water out of the plumbing in the cabin - at night in the dark, something was tipping over trash cans two cabins away :eek:
Went and strapped on the .44, man that was heavy...


Get yourself a couple Marine "Compressed Air" Horns--Big Can--Very loud--Very annoying!..dogs are good--long leash, and barkers. Probably already know, bears get into habits! easy pickings--trash cans=Bear lunch boxs! Hey Bo Boo!, Coolers, Tents, Pic-a-nic baskets.....Anyway, (should make it a joint effort with others around there!) you can make them LEAVE AND NOT Want To COME BACK!-- With a little training :D . The Jist of it.. SCARE the $hit out of them! :) , Chase As Far As Possible, Blasting the Horns, Flashing Lights, Dogs Barking, Just give them a good Hazing @ ANY/EVERY event...It will only take a few times!...Pm me if you need to know any more, or How.

CO Hummer 07-26-2006 07:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Z
GUN Don't Kill People! :rolleyes: PEOPLE Kill People!

Saying Guns Kill People Is Like Saying Pencils are Responsible for Bad Spelling! :rolleyes:


haha! you edited that post because you had a spelling error, didn't you.

westhillsat 07-26-2006 07:03 AM

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Like the air horn idea :)

Had a yellow lab, two years ago at night at the cabin while we were out letting him take care of business, he hunkered down and gave out one of those primal gutteral growls - made the hair stand up on my neck. That was the summer the five bears were around and before we knew they were around.

He was the opposite of a real lab. Didn't like water and started growling at the neighbors - acted more like he was a german shepard guard dog.
Had to have the vet find him a home way out in the country.

Have a beagle now, better for the son and she has that beagle bark/baying sound :)

Will add the air horn to the bear spray arsenal.

But still liking the S&W 500 :D

Big Z 07-26-2006 07:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CO Hummer
haha! you edited that post because you had a spelling error, didn't you.


It's the KeyBoards Fault! :eek: :D Bad Keyboard!

MarineHawk 07-26-2006 02:53 PM

Re: Buying new pistol, need advice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MovinH2
Glock all the way. I have a M-17 that is kept under the bed.;)


You're the first other person I know of with an M-17. I bought mine barely-used. I love the concept of the gun, but I have significant jamming/extraction issues when I shoot it. I don't know if it is a design flaw or something else. Do you have any problems like that?

PARAGON 07-26-2006 03:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MarineHawk
You're the first other person I know of with an M-17. I bought mine barely-used. I love the concept of the gun, but I have significant jamming/extraction issues when I shoot it. I don't know if it is a design flaw or something else. Do you have any problems like that?

Ummm..... isn't that just a standard G17


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