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hey dumb valley , if your test drivers didant break anything , it must not of been much of a test :rolleyes: thats the whole point in testing , to see what you can break . the true Moab expierience includes bustin your $hit a thousand miles from home , sounds like you are not up to it :cool:



FJ = 2 wheel drive mall cruiser

the proof is the 6 speed wtf ???????????? highway cruiser

all you need is a 3 speed for old school wheelin !!!!!!!!!!!

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where? linky I'll comment. Hell, I'd love to wheel with other vehicles, especially new ones that no one is sure what it's capabilities are.

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OMFG!!! The hobbit has gone mad with power.;););):D:D

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i don't blame the FJ dudes for not hopping at the opportunity.

all this inter-brand rivalry makes me a bit leery at times as well. over the weekend i was advised by a guy with a really BIG jeep to air down to 3psi in my tires, and he said it was practically zero-chance that i'd blow a bead.

was he trying to help, or was that hand about 1/2" from his camera hoping the hummer would blow a bead so he could take pictures of it and spread them across all 31 continents in the nearest 11 solar systems as "proof" that hummers sucked?

How many times in america this year will some dude try to get somebody elses $70k H2 all scratched up just for kicks? it'll happen

His jeep was HUGE. he had 40-something inch tires that stuck out about 8" to a foot on either side. it was cool

and my hummer was too wide to really go on most of the trails w/o concern. An Audi could have driven some of the trails, and could have done it alot faster than i did in th ehummer. In that type of place, it would have been alot more fun in a jeep.

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or possibility of malice aside, wouldn't it be better / more fun to offroad with a bunch of people that you knew wanted you to make it up the hill and over the rock, rather than worry that somebody wanted you to fail?

i know you ******* guys would help anybody driving anything as best you could, but the FJ dudes might not be as certain about that.

I think it would be fun if i got one of everything and compared them. save some pennies.

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Yes, I think you should go out, and get each of these vehicles and we can test them to the fullest of their abilities. Then we can truly have arguements. And you can have a thousand trail rigs. :D

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what would there be to include?

I'm not particularily interested in "wildly modified hummer -vs- wildly modified toyota" contests. That has nothing to do with hummer, jeep, toyota, or anything else. Given a few bucks, you could make a Geo Tracker a great offroad machine in the jeep mold, no? Same basic product when you're done, perhaps?

those things should have heir own brand, maybe something like "Wanger". What do you wheel? "A Wanger". that has a nice ring.

But you'd compare Rubicon, the 3 hummers, a pickup or 2 - maybe one big, one small, an LR3 or Rangie Rovie, a G500 and an FJ...

really, what else is there to compare? does anything else really lay claim to offroad excellence? I guess i'm short an FJ, an H1, a 'Benz, and a Land Rover, but could otherwise borrow (or already own) the other vehicles.

That would actually be really fun, but to be sure it would be the most honest test if the tester owned all the vehicles... minimize the prejudice and bribery that basically defines most reviews of, well, any kind.

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Well, there are some who say that the Toureg is a 'true' off-road competitor. You'd have to include that just to shut them up.

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Cuase

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In case you missed it, the FJ did Potato Salad and didn't break...

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I love how you guys try to rationalize it:
You got to wonder if it?s so easy why have no H3?s even attempted it and only a few H2?s have made it up the quote ?easy part??

Not saying that it didn?t make it but tell me again where I keep saying it made it to the top?

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Can not see where this could be construed as anything but saying it did but not in so many words.

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You can argue semantics all you want while you?re at it why don?t you check to see what the meaning of the word ?is? is and maybe we can figure out if Clinton really got sucked off in the Oval Office. Mean while the FJ has done more off road in three months than the H3 has done in over a year yet many here still try to marginalize it by labeling it a mall cruiser, KY Cruiser etc....

BTW-Not that you?re going to believe it but it did make it to the top; A-TRAC is a very good thing.

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:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Give me a fukkin break! Holy troll statement!

Maybe I missed it, but have you ever explained exactly why you have such a hard-on for the FJ.

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In cased you missed it, I was paraphrasing you, dumbdick.
And all I see is an FJ ON potato salad where are the rest of the pics or the video of it completing it.

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Where do you get that no H3s have attempted nor completed PS? What makes you think one hasn't?

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Not according to the owner

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Now, that's just being stupid. To my knowledge the H3 has been, en masse to every major trail/ORV park in the US on more than one occasion. You post a bunch of pics of non-owners running some trails and the one or two others in the world that have done something and have the ridiculous balls to make that comment.

Oops, sorry. My bad. After further checking that does indeed fall in-line with nearly every other comment you've made here. So, it's nothing new for you.

Re: Why the FJ Cruiser is no Threat to the H3
 

I definitely think the FJ is in the same ballpark as the H3. On-road, the FJ wins ... but off-road it's all H3.

I test drove 2 FJ Cruisers a couple of weeks ago. The engine pulls strong and the driving position is very comfortable. Lots of headroom, shoulder room and elbow room (similar to the H3), and plenty of room between the gas and brake pedals (more than in the H3).

The H3 feels more solid around corners, has fewer blind spots, and has 4 real doors, but those are the H3's only advantages in town. The FJ kicked its butt in acceleration, passing, and on-highway agility because of its more powerful drivetrain. Both the FJ's 5-spd auto and 6-spd manual shifted smooth as silk.

Even so, I have no doubts about the H3's ability to smoke the FJ offroad. Its stance, clearance, skid plates (FJ's are plastic), wheel travel, torque/crawl ratio and turning radius (despite the FJ's smaller wheelbase) are all superior to the FJ. Once the 2007 H3s come out with the 3.7L I-5, its on-road performance will only improve.

As far as looks go, the H3 wins hands down. The FJ looks like a frikkin eggmobile :rolleyes: I'm definitely getting a 2007 H3.

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X2 man you should stay over on your KY forum since you love H3's so much . who ever said H3's broke on tater salad ?

test drivers went right up it you DUMBA$$ :eek: check out the hummer test drivers pix if you really want to know what testing is .

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:D

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:p

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now how about your plastic skid plates :( you gonna tell us how they protect a hundred times better than a H3's too ? :p

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How do like my rides!! :D

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The FJ is the best thing that could have happened to this Forum. Now you have something to talk about.

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Kreskin says Iwheeldoyou will post next.

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New here, love this topic as I just got back from an event (the GSMTR) where the Toyota Trail Team showed up. I hope to interject some reason to this (admittedly entertaining) thread.

Toyota has formed three FJ Cruiser Trail Teams. West, Central and East Coast. These three teams of two FJCs each go to off-road events large and small and wheel all the trails. Plus, they let drivers wheel them, and not just on on fire road stretches. They let you wheel them up obstacles. Very cool.

The FJ does very well offroad. It uses traction control or an e-locker to do this. It wheeled Moab. It did the entire Rubicon trail in STOCK form. See pics here: http://www.4wdtoyotaowner.com/FJCruiser.html. It's been to GSMTR, Hollister Hills, Paragon, etc. So there's no doubt it performs well off-road.

Quality: clear winner, Toyota. Not trolling here. Simple fact. Hummer isn't even close. Here's the link.

http://www.whas11.com/sharedcontent/....6468a31b.html

Whoever that complete dork "Aubs" is who keeps talking about the FJC "being a threat to the the H3", what the hell is that about? If you want to wheel a Hummer, buy one. If you want to wheel an FJ Cruiser, buy one. "A threat"? Ummm....ok. That's like saying chocolate is a threat to vanilla. Dumb! Or funny--like the brass at Toyota said: "When we build this FJC it's to kill the H3 line!" Ryyyyyt.

For god's sake, shut up and wheel!

Respectfully,

Mike

Re: Why the FJ Cruiser is no Threat to the H3
 

We just love to rub your newbie noses in the same sh*t others attempted to rub ours in.;)

BTW, how's Seattle?

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Welcome to the forum Humm! :D

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And buh-bye.:D

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LMAO!!! :D :D Those are test vehicles, heck I'll drive a Rolls Royce if someone is paying for it and not worrying about getting damage. And those FJ's in Moab are modifieds.....lol. I wonder what it looks like after completing the Rubicon trail...hmm probably in the repair shop! :D

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Just because it has been there and wheeled does not mean it performed well. Not saying it did bad or good but just having been there doesn't prove anything :rolleyes:



Again, doesn't prove anything. It is too early to tell what the quality of the FJ will be and that is what we are discussing. For the record, the worst quality rated vehicle that GM sells is manufactured in a Toyota plant :eek:

To each their own on what they want to drive and for me it will never be an FJ but wouldn't mind wheeling with some.