Here's the story:

Last week I noticed the engine was running a little rough at idle.
The following day the engine light came on and would not go out. I took my H3 to the dealer the following morning. After about 30 minutes they came back and told me I had the same problem as two others they already had.

I'm not a engine expert to any means so I will do my best to explain what I was told.

To the best of GM's ability they think the computer is running the engine too lean causing a overheating condition in the cylinder. This causes the valves to burn and make it not seat well. This in return causes a low compression problem thus the computer engine light.

GM has told them to replace the entire head and everything related and update the computer code to fix the lean problem They have also been instructed to send in all replaced parts for them to examine.

That was Sat I called today to check and see the status and found out the now have 5 with this problem.

This is looking very bad.

I had 12,000 miles the previous two had 7 and 9 thousand.

He mentioned that they had a problem with the Colorado at one time with a similar issue but GM says this is different.

He told me that the head has to go into a machine shop to get worked when they get the parts.

GM told him they are getting more and more of these everyday.

I wonder how long it will be before they start a recall. I guess when they determine the exact course.

I wish I had never bought my H3. I shoulda known better.

Here's the story:

Last week I noticed the engine was running a little rough at idle.
The following day the engine light came on and would not go out. I took my H3 to the dealer the following morning. After about 30 minutes they came back and told me I had the same problem as two others they already had.

I'm not a engine expert to any means so I will do my best to explain what I was told.

To the best of GM's ability they think the computer is running the engine too lean causing a overheating condition in the cylinder. This causes the valves to burn and make it not seat well. This in return causes a low compression problem thus the computer engine light.

GM has told them to replace the entire head and everything related and update the computer code to fix the lean problem They have also been instructed to send in all replaced parts for them to examine.

That was Sat I called today to check and see the status and found out the now have 5 with this problem.

This is looking very bad.

I had 12,000 miles the previous two had 7 and 9 thousand.

He mentioned that they had a problem with the Colorado at one time with a similar issue but GM says this is different.

He told me that the head has to go into a machine shop to get worked when they get the parts.

GM told him they are getting more and more of these everyday.

I wonder how long it will be before they start a recall. I guess when they determine the exact course.

I wish I had never bought my H3. I shoulda known better.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I wish I had never bought my H3. I shoulda known better. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well...at least you learned your lesson. Now...go by a hybrid.
Idiot.

Thanks for your wonderful input. You are so helpful.

Kick a guy while hes down why don't you.

Don't get me wrong I love my hummer. But I'd really love it if I could drive it.

Gees can't a guy vent!

Sure doll. You want to vent, this is the place to do it.

You love your hummer, but wish you never bought it??

Don't mean to kick you while your down. I'm just feeling a little feisty today. Please..continue.

OK let me rephrase.

"I wish I had waited till there was a proven track record for the H3."

I'm thinking call me crazy but if there's 5 in my dealership in two weeks. There might be a problem.

I don't like the idea of my engine basicly being rebuilt after only 12000 miles.

Would you?

Hopefully they will nail down the problem and put out a fix so others will not have to go through this.

I only posted to see if others are having problems.

Besides I like em Fiesty.

fiesty or PMSing?

Thanks for the "heads up"

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Modley:
I wish I had never bought my H3. I shoulda known better. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

When your first post ends with that line, expect to get some sh!t for it.

Sucks you're having problems, but that's what warranty is for. Could you maybe go into more detail on the symptoms so others on here would know what to look for. Just in case this does become a common problem.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">"I wish I had waited till there was a proven track record for the H3." </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good Boy. That's better.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">fiesty </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Don't be ugly Mike. I know where you live!

I know I should of waited more than 2 minutes after getting off the phone with the dealer.I'm much calmer now.

The only symptoms were a rough idle (engine shimmy) Then the engine light came on within a couple of days. It did seem there was some power loss.

They said the compression on 2 cylinders was low 150 on one and 180 on another.

I think he said below 200 was a problem.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mike B:
fiesty or PMSing? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>It's amazing how many times PMS comes up on this forum..... About once a month per woman.

I just have to ask, "do you really believe what a dealer tells you."
Whether there is a problem or not with the cylinder head

"GM has told them to replace the entire head and everything related and update the computer code to fix the lean problem They have also been instructed to send in all replaced parts for them to examine."

Sending back parts can be a standard procedure, depending upon the parts. I haven't checked, but I'm sure this part is considered a core return part.

"He told me that the head has to go into a machine shop to get worked when they get the parts."

Now, I'll be honest, this line makes me laugh. If the dealer is getting a new head, there is absolutely no reason for them to send it out to a machine shop when received. The head will be ready to install right out of the box.

"I wish I had never bought my H3. I shoulda known better."

I guess all other trucks/SUVs/cars, etc., can never break...damn, wish I had known that.

Excuse me, but for some reason, I have a hard time believing a first post with the statements you have made. Either this is a troll post, or you are exaggerating the problems, or the dealer is really in bad shape.

My diagnosis: Troll Boy

I am a little confused or you are. The title AND you stated in your opening post that the head had to be replaced. Yet you followed that up with the fact that you are waiting because "He told me that the head has to go into a machine shop to get worked when they get the parts."

Apparently I am not the only one confused.

f5 nailed it

If he had gotten a Prius this would never have happened.

He said the head has to be fitted to the valves or something. Like they had to be matched. He said is more of a polish/sandpaper thing. He said he could do it in house but he has hired a local machine shop to do it because "they do it every day". Or maybe it's because they have 5 of them. I don't know.

This is a fairly large hummer dealer they sell 40+ H3's a month.

Hell I don't know maybe they are lying to me and their out muddin.

As far as the "I guess all other trucks/SUVs/cars, etc., can never break...damn, wish I had known that."

I have never had a vehicle with this large a problem after only 12000 miles. Actually never less then 130,000 miles. In fact I don't know of anyone with this large a problem on this many vehicles.

Maybe I've just been lucky

Come one 5 in two weeks?

this many vehicles ? you said you heard of two besides yours thats not many

i had simular problem with a wrangler with about 10000 miles, wanted to rebuild head. i told them i didnt shell out $27000 to have head rebuilt at 10000 miles. they said thats what 5 star told them they had to do.i called cunsumer affairs in detroit explained situation within 48 hours had new head put in. i would not let them rebuild anything on a truck that new. remeber squieky wheel gets the oil
my h3 should be here next week black luz ebony and marrocco chrome pac chrome wheels sun roof rear dvds mud flaps xm

I have yet to hear about 1 head going bad (IE Warping). Recall? No way..

The lil 5 cyl enigine is "known" to be a great long lasting engine.

Will one or more break? Ugh, ya of course some will but I think the majority of them out there are running just great.

I hope it all works out for ya and if not remember you can always buy an electric car or a cammel..

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by NEOCON1:
this many vehicles ? you said you heard of two besides yours thats not many </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Please read from the original post.

"That was Sat I called today to check and see the status and found out the now have 5 with this problem."

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
I am a little confused or you are. The title AND you stated in your opening post that the head had to be replaced. Yet you followed that up with the fact that you are waiting because "He told me that the head has to go into a machine shop to get worked when they get the parts." </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

He said and I quote"The new head will go to a machine shop to be worked" He was speaking of the new head. He said "The new parts (e.g. valves) do not fit perfectly together and must be fitted to to the place that they seat.

Geez you guys sure defend you H3's

Six or seven in one dealership is one thing I have a hard time believing.
So, you are saying they are getting a bare cylinder head and they have to lap the valves to the head. However, if GM wanted this back for inspection, they would require the entire head with the valves, and which time they would send out another full head assembly. (Partsguy might jump in and straighten me out, just in case they don't offer a full head assembly; I will check tomorrow just out of curiosity).
If the tech who is working on the engine cannot lap the valves to the cylinder head, then you have a right to be worried. Installing the valves, keepers, springs, etc. are very easy, and the dealer has all the right tools in their tool kit. (Special tools they paid for from Kent-Moore.)
Would hope they are not out muddin' but for a dealer to make these statements make me think the dealer is full of poopie (that's a politically correct word for **** ).
As for miles on vehicles and repairs, you appear to have been very lucky over the years.
In the past ten years, I have had the following experiences with cars:
1995 SSEi - Updated Calibration
1996 SSEi - Nothing
1997 Jeep - Exhaust manifold, ignition coil, cylinder head, timing chain, all withing 12K, then nothing for another 20+K. Guess the dealer finally got it right.
1998 SSEi - Recalibration and new floor mats
1998 Cadillac Caterra - Nothing big, but in one year, 14 trips (half towed) to the dealer
1999 Corvette - Nothing until I took it apart and modified it, which I'm still doing.
1999 GTP - Nothing
2001 GTP - Head up display replaced
2003 Corvette - Three trips to dealer (one was for a broken ignition key ring attachment)
2003 Jeep Wrangler - Spark plug, exhaust manifold.

I guess what I'm saying is that some cars break, some don't.

Yes, we do defend the H3, but look at this logically. Your first post is full of ambiguous and far fetech statements, and again, your last sentence makes you appear to be a troll.
I understand there are people out there who actually believe what a service person says, but for many of us, we believe half of what they say and ignore the other half.

Now as far as your Prius/Electric/Camel comment's. You can shove those flamer so called vehicles right up u know where.

Man u guys r a**holes.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by f5fstop:
Six or seven in one dealership is one thing I have a hard time believing.
So, you are saying they are getting a bare cylinder head and they have to lap the valves to the head. However, if GM wanted this back for inspection, they would require the entire head with the valves, and which time they would send out another full head assembly. (Partsguy might jump in and straighten me out, just in case they don't offer a full head assembly; I will check tomorrow just out of curiosity).
If the tech who is working on the engine cannot lap the valves to the cylinder head, then you have a right to be worried. Installing the valves, keepers, springs, etc. are very easy, and the dealer has all the right tools in their tool kit. (Special tools they paid for from Kent-Moore.)
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Do you guys read my typing

"He said he could do it in house but he has hired a local machine shop to do it because "they do it every day". Or maybe it's because they have 5 of them. I don't know."

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Man u guys r a**holes. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


NANA NANA NANA....u guys r a**holes!!

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Modley:
Now as far as your Prius/Electric/Camel comment's. You can shove those flamer so called vehicles right up u know where.

Man u guys r a**holes. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why thank you very much. Then again, you are not the first to call me that, and I would bet a year's salary, you won't be the last.
Have a great day....Goodbye, I know when I'm not wanted.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DarthKarl:
My diagnosis: Troll Boy </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yea that's it I randomly go and post stuff just to annoy you guys.

I have a life.

I just went online to see if anyone else was having the same issue and up jumps a bunch of closed ear people.

I really jope there's not a big problem with them. Maybee it's just a batch that my dealer got. Probably not since the dealer said that he is working with TAC or some kind of tech support people at GM and they are seeing the same thing.

Does any one here work at a dealer. If so go ask you service guy to call GM and see if they are experienceing this problem or is my dealer lying to me.

That will solve it.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HIHUMMER:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Man u guys r a**holes. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


NANA NANA NANA....u guys r a**holes!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You were included. Geez

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Modley:
Do you guys read my typing </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Read my typing:

Troll

1. verb,noun: To utter a posting on Usenet designed to attract predictable responses or flames; or, the post itself. Derives from the phrase “trolling for newbies” which in turn comes from mainstream “trolling”, a style of fishing in which one trails bait through a likely spot hoping for a bite.

I CALL BS! Prove me wrong. What dealer? What service writer?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Modley:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
I am a little confused or you are. The title AND you stated in your opening post that the head had to be replaced. Yet you followed that up with the fact that you are waiting because "He told me that the head has to go into a machine shop to get worked when they get the parts." </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

He said and I quote"The new head will go to a machine shop to be worked" He was speaking of the new head. He said "The new parts (e.g. valves) do not fit perfectly together and must be fitted to to the place that they seat.

Geez you guys sure defend you H3's </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I don't have a H3. I defend common sense and intelligence.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DarthKarl:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Modley:
Do you guys read my typing </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Read my typing:

Troll

1. verb,noun: To utter a posting on Usenet designed to attract predictable responses or flames; or, the post itself. Derives from the phrase “trolling for newbies” which in turn comes from mainstream “trolling”, a style of fishing in which one trails bait through a likely spot hoping for a bite. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Look I did not come here looking to elicit a negative response I came here to ask


HAS ANY ONE ELSE HAD THIS PROBLEM?

It seems to be no.


Thanks for you hospitality. Jacka**es

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Modley:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DarthKarl:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Modley:
Do you guys read my typing </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Read my typing:

Troll

1. verb,noun: To utter a posting on Usenet designed to attract predictable responses or flames; or, the post itself. Derives from the phrase “trolling for newbies” which in turn comes from mainstream “trolling”, a style of fishing in which one trails bait through a likely spot hoping for a bite. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Look I did not come here looking to elicit a negative response I came here to ask


HAS ANY ONE ELSE HAD THIS PROBLEM?

It seems to be no.


Thanks for you hospitality. Jacka**es </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by timgco:
I CALL BS! Prove me wrong. What dealer? What service writer? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I tell you what I will PM you with the dealer info. You can call them and ask.

Does that sound fair?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Modley:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by timgco:
I CALL BS! Prove me wrong. What dealer? What service writer? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I tell you what I will PM you with the dealer info. You can call them and ask.

Does that sound fair? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Hey Jason, will you PM me too?

Just go ahead and PM Paragon.