I don't think there is any one marque or model that is the absolute best off-road machine on the planet. They all have strengths and weaknesses in the various aspects of wheeling, so my question is more of what differences you've witnessed between the H2 and other vehicles?

H2 handles better on Oklahoma roads than all other vehicles I have owned. None were meant for off-road, but goes to show you what shape the roads here are in.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SJ:
I don't think there is any one marque or model that is the absolute best off-road machine on the planet. They all have strengths and weaknesses in the various aspects of wheeling, so my question is more of what _differences_ you've witnessed between the H2 and other vehicles?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

if you want an offroad vehicle, you have to build one,... or buy one someone else built...lol

also, the vehicle is only as good as the person driving it...

http://www.eng.ysu.edu/~melliott/hobbies.htm

I've found that onroad strenghts usually take away from the offroad experience. For ten grand a 600cc rhino from yamaha will give you an extremely capable toy. The open air experience makes up for any of the fun lost by the rather small engine. Currently I have a Polaris competitor which is not as capable. However based on my experience with that, it is more fun than any truck I have taken offroad

I've found that onroad strenghts usually take away from the offroad experience. For ten grand a 600cc rhino from yamaha will give you an extremely capable toy. The open air experience makes up for any of the fun lost by the rather small engine. Currently I have a Polaris competitor which is not as capable. However based on my experience with that, it is more fun than any truck I have taken offroad

Found ya rhino!

-Matt

Found ya rhino!

-Matt

off road the H2 is kinda marginal, My wrangler walks circles around my H2, on road the H2 is comfy and stable
off road it is big heavy and has the turning radius of a school bus, it,s flex is as bad as a chevy truck, wait it is a chevey truck.

off road the H2 is kinda marginal, My wrangler walks circles around my H2, on road the H2 is comfy and stable
off road it is big heavy and has the turning radius of a school bus, it,s flex is as bad as a chevy truck, wait it is a chevey truck.

I would never let the fact that a product I own blinds the way I reason. A H2 has a great macho appeal and it can offroad, plus is a useful SUV.There are stock Vehicles that can far outdo H2s in several catogories, Take a Land Rover for instance, Or a Rubicon Wrangler. Face it we may love our H2s but they are basicly chevy Tahoes when it comes to offroading, Capable but not the best.
You can say whatever you want about what I just posted, but it changes nothing.
I have taken my H2 wheeling and can tell you that from the viewpoint of a advid wheeler with 28 years plus experiance, the H2 is not any more than average.

I would never let the fact that a product I own blinds the way I reason. A H2 has a great macho appeal and it can offroad, plus is a useful SUV.There are stock Vehicles that can far outdo H2s in several catogories, Take a Land Rover for instance, Or a Rubicon Wrangler. Face it we may love our H2s but they are basicly chevy Tahoes when it comes to offroading, Capable but not the best.
You can say whatever you want about what I just posted, but it changes nothing.
I have taken my H2 wheeling and can tell you that from the viewpoint of a advid wheeler with 28 years plus experiance, the H2 is not any more than average.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sfox:
I call bull****, you don't own one... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Exactly. By the way, dumbass, this argument is about 1 year too late. Even Jeepers have come to realize that they can't bash the H2 anymore because it makes them look as ignorant as you.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sfox:
I call bull****, you don't own one... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Exactly. By the way, dumbass, this argument is about 1 year too late. Even Jeepers have come to realize that they can't bash the H2 anymore because it makes them look as ignorant as you.

nope not in Jeeps, bought my first jeep this year infact. I have had 2 toys and a number of chevys
I off road in southern Ca, Utah, and a lot down in Mexico
the ability to get up over something in no way is the make for ofroading, it has to be able to take angles, turn sharply, flex. fuel effientcy and crawling are nice features, mechanical reliability is a high rating and so is engineered prtection of parts in stock form. If you have electronics, being able to turn them off with a switch is a must.the ability to see ones tires, ease and positioning of jacking points, location of usable horsepower, proper whell well clearances all help in the ability to 4 by, I could name quite a few that would come to mind when out on a trail.
factoring everything together some of the best rigs I have ever wheeled are anceint by todays showroom standards,
I am not here to argue
I own a H2 and love it
the thread was how do I feel the H2 stands up against other 4x4 platforms we have owned
I give it a 5 on the 1 to 10 scale
you can argue all day if you want
after all the Democrats are still yelling that the republicans stole the election
I think theyare both crazy
now here is a wall, go ahead

ps and this is a edit, I give a stock wrangler a 5 also, for different reasons

nope not in Jeeps, bought my first jeep this year infact. I have had 2 toys and a number of chevys
I off road in southern Ca, Utah, and a lot down in Mexico
the ability to get up over something in no way is the make for ofroading, it has to be able to take angles, turn sharply, flex. fuel effientcy and crawling are nice features, mechanical reliability is a high rating and so is engineered prtection of parts in stock form. If you have electronics, being able to turn them off with a switch is a must.the ability to see ones tires, ease and positioning of jacking points, location of usable horsepower, proper whell well clearances all help in the ability to 4 by, I could name quite a few that would come to mind when out on a trail.
factoring everything together some of the best rigs I have ever wheeled are anceint by todays showroom standards,
I am not here to argue
I own a H2 and love it
the thread was how do I feel the H2 stands up against other 4x4 platforms we have owned
I give it a 5 on the 1 to 10 scale
you can argue all day if you want
after all the Democrats are still yelling that the republicans stole the election
I think theyare both crazy
now here is a wall, go ahead

ps and this is a edit, I give a stock wrangler a 5 also, for different reasons

One last word here
I would never show my lack of respect or education by lowering myself to profanity to prove a point,it only shows that one has run out of logical arguements and needs to revert to childish bullying to win,

One last word here
I would never show my lack of respect or education by lowering myself to profanity to prove a point,it only shows that one has run out of logical arguements and needs to revert to childish bullying to win,

thanks Fox, but I was refring to the dumbass remark not yours
oh, by the way I have factored all of those into my desicion. and it still stands

thanks Fox, but I was refring to the dumbass remark not yours
oh, by the way I have factored all of those into my desicion. and it still stands

ps, I never said I had a problem with the H@
you assumed that

ps, I never said I had a problem with the H@
you assumed that

ok my list your answers
1 H2 breakovers are average
2turn sharply, you admit "for the size of the vehicle it is"
3 flex is not that of a stock rubi, or a stock rwrangler, I have put them both on a ramp
4 I do not consider 10 miles of trail a off road experiance, more like 2 weeks of crawling around in Baja
5 same ratio as a stock Rubi (rubi is your pick)
6 mechanical reliability, chevy is good, much better than ford
7 again hummer is nice in this area
8 chrysler and mercedes have traction control electronics on their products that can be shut off with a switch on the dash, they make suvs ubder several marks that have these
9 short wheel bases make hanging out to see ones tires nice, as do seats close to the doors
10 ease of jacking points, hummer has nice points
11 rubi develops 85 percent of torque right above idle, lets not get into a hp over weight issue here and rubi is what you keep spouting
12 not under full flex it cant
now not to turn this into a brawl, if you have anyother discussion, let us pm each other, and leave the thread open to others who would like to post to it, our discussion of why you think a H2 is gods gift to 4x4 and my opinion that it is not will prob go on for some time, I feel that neither of us will budge and that will only muddy the waters here. it is a open forum and a public one, I admit it is in a H2 site which means the numbers who adore h2s is overwelming, and that support here for my srguements will be slanted. I give my opion by a H2 owner who is not about to sell his H2 because he loves it to much, but as someone who also owns, has owned, and will own other marks

ok my list your answers
1 H2 breakovers are average
2turn sharply, you admit "for the size of the vehicle it is"
3 flex is not that of a stock rubi, or a stock rwrangler, I have put them both on a ramp
4 I do not consider 10 miles of trail a off road experiance, more like 2 weeks of crawling around in Baja
5 same ratio as a stock Rubi (rubi is your pick)
6 mechanical reliability, chevy is good, much better than ford
7 again hummer is nice in this area
8 chrysler and mercedes have traction control electronics on their products that can be shut off with a switch on the dash, they make suvs ubder several marks that have these
9 short wheel bases make hanging out to see ones tires nice, as do seats close to the doors
10 ease of jacking points, hummer has nice points
11 rubi develops 85 percent of torque right above idle, lets not get into a hp over weight issue here and rubi is what you keep spouting
12 not under full flex it cant
now not to turn this into a brawl, if you have anyother discussion, let us pm each other, and leave the thread open to others who would like to post to it, our discussion of why you think a H2 is gods gift to 4x4 and my opinion that it is not will prob go on for some time, I feel that neither of us will budge and that will only muddy the waters here. it is a open forum and a public one, I admit it is in a H2 site which means the numbers who adore h2s is overwelming, and that support here for my srguements will be slanted. I give my opion by a H2 owner who is not about to sell his H2 because he loves it to much, but as someone who also owns, has owned, and will own other marks

sorry if am not posting fast enough for you , I am at home and trying to take care of a 8 month old as well as clean house for company as my wife cooks, ever try to type with a squiggleling baby in hand, or keep up with typos caused by stray hands

sorry if am not posting fast enough for you , I am at home and trying to take care of a 8 month old as well as clean house for company as my wife cooks, ever try to type with a squiggleling baby in hand, or keep up with typos caused by stray hands

tell yopu what because I need to go out and rake leaves, which means sign off

I bow like a lemming to the Hummer gods
forsaking all other marks of vehicles
I promise to sell my jeep and get my son to sell his LR3 by the weekend
and now admit all you said is truth

satisfied?

tell yopu what because I need to go out and rake leaves, which means sign off

I bow like a lemming to the Hummer gods
forsaking all other marks of vehicles
I promise to sell my jeep and get my son to sell his LR3 by the weekend
and now admit all you said is truth

satisfied?

here is a link that you will love, I laughed all the way through it I do not agree with it's path it takes but it shows you can compare anything to anything, and get a winner

http://motortrend.com/roadtests/coup...ini/index.html