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Detonate 12-15-2003 01:41 PM

I'm having a hell of time getting ahold of MT/R's. The guy I talked to at Goodyear says they are shipping them all to Iraq at the moment.

The guy I talked to at Discount Tire is trying to talk me into BFG MT's, but since I really don't know much about tires, I've just been going off of everyone else's expierences.

MT/R's seem to be the proven solution, so should I hold out for them?

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2003 Red H2 equipped with Tough Country Heavy Duty Armor Series Front End with Winch, Rear Bumper, Brush Guard, and Roof Rack.

Detonate 12-15-2003 01:41 PM

I'm having a hell of time getting ahold of MT/R's. The guy I talked to at Goodyear says they are shipping them all to Iraq at the moment.

The guy I talked to at Discount Tire is trying to talk me into BFG MT's, but since I really don't know much about tires, I've just been going off of everyone else's expierences.

MT/R's seem to be the proven solution, so should I hold out for them?

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2003 Red H2 equipped with Tough Country Heavy Duty Armor Series Front End with Winch, Rear Bumper, Brush Guard, and Roof Rack.

Patriot 12-15-2003 02:12 PM

Det,

I had BFG MT's on my Jeep TJ and now have MTR's on my H2. I prefer the MTR's.

They are a bit quieter and seem to do better overall (snow, mud, dirt) than the MT's. I just had the H2 out in the snow,sleet, ice, etc and it behaved perfectly...no issues. On my TJ, the MT's would slip in rain and snow.

Now, you can't really compare the H2 with the TJ but it's the only comparison I can offer.

Have you tried ordering them from Canada? May be a bit more but I think you may be able to find them up there?

Detonate 12-15-2003 02:25 PM

Well the only comparision I have at this point is that Discount Tire offers the MT/R's for $190 per tire and that's mounted and balanced.

While the MT's are $250.

$250 per tire seems steep to me, not to mention I have a feeling that the MT/R's are better. But I just want to make sure that's the overall assesment.

I really don't want to pay more for a lesser tire.

It's hard enough to convince my wife that I need new tires on a 8 month old vehicle as it is.

I haven't tried Canada. The problem I'm having is that most places, while they offer 37" MT/R's, they don't stock them. They just order them as needed. And everyone says they are on back order.

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2003 Red H2 equipped with Tough Country Heavy Duty Armor Series Front End with Winch, Rear Bumper, Brush Guard, and Roof Rack.

Patriot 12-15-2003 02:46 PM

I hear ya...

Try doing a search on 4X4 places. They might stock larger size tires like you're looking for...

Dan 12-15-2003 02:49 PM

Check out the reviews at www.tirerack.com

Anyone have any experience with the Pro Comp Mud Terrains? They look similar to the MTs.
www.procomptires.com

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AlamoJim 12-15-2003 02:51 PM

I say go with the MT/R...I have scraped,cut,and generally abused mine for over 20k miles...and I wheel on them hard. Never had a problem with them, the sidewalls are awesome and the road noise, performance, and wear all are very reasonable.

From what I have seen on the trail and from talking to owners of the Procomp X-terrains I would go with the MT/R over the procomp products every time. I know 2 owners of the x-terrains personally and they both are switching back to the MT/R (buy 3 get one free is not as good a deal as it seams...)

JMO
Good luck finding them, let everybody know where they turn up!

PARAGON 12-15-2003 03:22 PM

Detonate,

Have you tried Sam's Club. Seems like there are 2 that's right by you. One on I-30 and one on I-20. I know Sam's sells the MT/R's and hell you might get lucky.

PARAGON 12-15-2003 03:56 PM

Detonate,

Here are a couple more places to try:

4x4GroupBuy.com

Tire Terminal

Check out the price here

Jigga 12-15-2003 10:07 PM

Hey detonate,
I have also been searching and searching for MT/R's. I've canceled my order with 4wheelparts.com, They've been on backorder forever. I'm was also told to consider the BFG MT's but I feel the MTR's are superior. I'm just going to hold out and hopefully in a few months there will be a big enough stock around the country to buy some.

2003 Pewter H2 with Adventure Package, 20% tinted front windows, K&N aircharger filter kit, 3 screen DVD and Playstation 2 system. Soon to come: 37" MT/R's, Warn winch, XM and subwoofers.

BAMFH2 12-15-2003 11:51 PM

Detonate,

Been looking for weeks for the MT/R's. I checked all the online stores and local stores to no avail.

I just found a set on Ebay last week, so you might check there.

Good Luck!

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BAMFH2 12-15-2003 11:55 PM

WHOA - Paragon - I just checked out your link "check out the price here".

WTF! $499 each! And that is his sale price, down from $699 each...what is that boy smoking?

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BAMFH2 12-16-2003 12:08 AM

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Detonate,

Here is a cool pic to see what you are in store for if you can find the MT/R's.

What a HUGE difference!

Picked this image off of www.yellowH2.com

Some pretty cool pics on this site if you havent been there before. His Moab pics are very cool!

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Detonate 12-19-2003 05:39 PM

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What do you think. Worth $1100 including the rims?



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Detonate 12-19-2003 05:39 PM

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Detonate 12-19-2003 05:46 PM

That doesn't seem like much tread to me, but I'm not sure how much they come standard with.

And I don't really need or for that matter like these rims. But I'm wondering if I can sell these rims? Or maybe I could use them and swap back and forth between my on road, off road tires?

Rrrrrrrrr...

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2003 Red H2 equipped with Tough Country Heavy Duty Armor Series Front End with Winch, Rear Bumper, Brush Guard, and Roof Rack.

FrgMstr 12-19-2003 08:58 PM

Does not look like much tread to me either.... Not 1100 bucks worth anyway...

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Detonate 12-19-2003 09:57 PM

The guy says there are only about 4,000 miles on the tires, and after I looked at some more of the pictures of New tires on the yellowh2.com site, I tend to agree.

Well these seem to be my options.

Those 4 for $1100 which includes the rims no shipping. + $100ish to mount balance.

5 tires, 4 with 7k miles and 1 with none for $1,000 + shipping + $100ish to mount balance.

5 BFG MT's for $1,500, no shipping, includes mounting and balancing.

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2003 Red H2 equipped with Tough Country Heavy Duty Armor Series Front End with Winch, Rear Bumper, Brush Guard, and Roof Rack.

BAMFH2 12-19-2003 10:02 PM

I would seriously pass on the tires - I just put mine on today and they have a LOT more tread than the ones in your pics. I can take the same pic with a dime if you want.

As a reference, I paid $900 for my tires on ebay - brand new with wheels. Turns out the wheels wont fit the H2 - the bolt diameter is too narrow for my H2 - they originally came off a Ford F150 - I never knew that there would be a difference?? So will be selling the wheels back on ebay, but still got a GREAT deal anyway.

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Detonate 12-19-2003 10:20 PM

I'd rather see the picture with a Quarter.



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kdio 12-19-2003 10:20 PM

I have about 15,000 miles on my MTR and they have more tread left on them, than the pictures that Detonate posted.

03 H2 Sunset Orange Magna Charger w headers & cold air intake, 37" MTRs, GPS Nav. & 2 rear LCD TVs w DVD, XTC Light Bars Front & Rear, XTC Fog Light Bar, XTC steps

Detonate 12-19-2003 10:23 PM

Really?

To me it looks like the tread is around George's nose on the quarter.

Then I picture a quarter down in the tread on these brand new tires:

and it seems to me that they'd be close to equal. Maybe I'm wrong. I'd love to see another person take a pic of their MTR's with a quarter in the tread.

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Cincinnati h2 12-19-2003 11:10 PM

If you go to the goodyear web site you will see that 37/12.50/17 mt/r's have 20/32" tread when they are new.

alecs wife 12-19-2003 11:14 PM

Bergstrom Hummer of Milwaukee has 2 sets for sale. check out their web sight. Call the parts dept.

http://www.milwaukeehummer.com/index.asp

Front Locker, Stealth winch, 37" Super Swampers SSR,low center of gravity = Ultimate H2

BAMFH2 12-19-2003 11:53 PM

Detonate,

Crap - that looked like a dime to me LOL.

BTW, just got an email from the guy I bought my MT/R's from. Says he can get his hands on another set or two. I asked him for pricing and will let you know.

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Detonate 12-20-2003 12:30 AM

Sweet. Let me know ASAP, as I'm feelin' bad having this other guy hold tires for me as a last resort.

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5spd 12-20-2003 01:35 AM

Detonate...
Just so you know I put my tread gauge on a quater as close as I could see in your pic and come out at 16/32 maybe a tad more, but not quite 17/32, so out of 20/32 those tires still are fairly new. I'd say $800 tops without the rims, but if you can sell the rims for 400-500 then you still come out ahead....just my .02 cents worth...

Jigga 12-20-2003 03:01 AM

Ok i just placed an order for MTRs with tireterminal.com. Their website listed the tires as "in stock" and they were at one of the best prices i've seen, $214. Hopefully they are really instock and I can finally have a set of MTRs to call my own. I don't have a problem canceling my order if they're actually out of stock.

2003 Pewter H2 with Adventure Package, 20% tinted front windows, K&N aircharger filter kit, 3 screen DVD and Playstation 2 system. Soon to come: 37" MT/R's, Warn winch, XM and subwoofers.

DURAMAX TIM 12-20-2003 09:49 AM

Detonate...
Are those tires on a Ford ?
Sometime ago they changed the bolt spacing on the 8 hole rims.
The dual tires and wheels work good so u can save the tires from useless road miles.
I just put the wife's snow tires on last nite.
I'll get a pic soon.
I got the 12.5/35-16.5 General MT w/ Mickey Thompson Classics ready to run for $850 (all new).
They work good but don't have the extra 1" axle clearance.

Yell'r 04 Lux w/ air, sunroof,F&R brush bars
Traded 03 White Lux
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mambodoc 12-20-2003 07:51 PM

How do the MT R's do on the highway...are they acceptable for a daily driver?

5spd 12-20-2003 10:18 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mambodoc:
How do the MT R's do on the highway...are they acceptable for a daily driver?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Naturally they make enough noise, just have to turn the stereo up louder. I have had mine on for 8 mos or so and I got used to it, but I dont drive it everyday as I use my car for running around town and whatnot. Noisy yes, like swampers no...

FrgMstr 12-21-2003 09:27 AM

Tireterminal is a no-go as expected. But the guys that work there are super-nice.

"Hello Mr. Bennett,
We have checked our inventory on these tires but they are not in stock. We are sorry for this inconvenience but it seems to be due to an error made by our website administrator. Normally we get regular weekly delivery on all Goodyear tires but the Goodyear corporate warehouse is backordered over 150 of these tires with no planned production date for more.

We will correct this error immediately to make sure that it doesn't happen again. We will also assume that you wish to cancel the order so we will void it in our system.

Once again we apologize for this inconvenience as it does not happen with us often. Please feel free to ask if you have any other questions.

Sincerely,

Robert
Tireterminal.com"

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BAMFH2 12-21-2003 09:33 AM

The guy that I bought my set from on eBay sent me an email tonight. He thinks his source has 3-4 sets of them in stock in NJ.

Will know for sure on Monday - I'll let you guys know as soon as I get a confirmation.

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Detonate 12-21-2003 01:24 PM

Ok, great! You said you paid around $900 for a set of 4 that were brand new right?

Ask him if he'll sell 5. Or have him call me. 817-690-4097 I'm trying to get a set of these shipped and mounted before New Years Eve.

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FrgMstr 12-21-2003 02:09 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BAMFH2:
The guy that I bought my set from on eBay sent me an email tonight. He thinks his source has 3-4 sets of them in stock in NJ.

Will know for sure on Monday - I'll let you guys know as soon as I get a confirmation.

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Roger that!! I will take a set of five myself (MT/R 37-12.5-17) please.

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Jigga 12-21-2003 10:47 PM

I got to get in on this. I've been looking for these tires since June. I got the same email from Robert at tireterminal.com. What a cruel joke .
So Bamfh2, if that place still has a set tell me how to get them.
Thanks,
Jigga

2003 Pewter H2 with Adventure Package, 20% tinted front windows, K&N aircharger filter kit, 3 screen DVD and Playstation 2 system. Soon to come: 37" MT/R's, Warn winch, XM and subwoofers.

alecs wife 12-21-2003 11:12 PM

I would like 3 sets of 5 Please.

Front Locker, Stealth winch, 37" Super Swampers SSR,low center of gravity = Ultimate H2

Detonate 12-21-2003 11:51 PM

Hey now. I got dibs damnit!

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