Anyone have use this ? What think about this solution ?
Many thanks...
http://www.cognitomotorsports.com/02...tman_idler.htm

Have not used or seen this used... looks like the concept is good and makes sense. I think my pitman arm is going out as my H2 likes to follow wheel ruts in the road now.

Interesting

So is the claim that "alignment ... can not be held" without the product real? I only ask because every time I've had alignments it feels great for a couple hundred miles and then it reverts to being a rut climber. Or do they mean there's too much slop and their product eliminates this slop?

It's the slop, but slop can cause alignment problems since the system isn't "tight."

$200 for a couple of brackets seems steep though, unless they guarantee the pitman/idlers.

They're just stabilizing the arms. I have a sneaky feeling that could be done for a few bucks and sometime at a good hardware store. Now I think I'm going to slide under there and take a look.

$200 isn't anything if they really work. If it saved 2 alignments, you would nearly pay for them. If it saves the arms, then much better.

Everyone knows there is a premature wear issue even running stock tires on GM HD trucks. I can see the idea behind how these work IF the premature failure is caused by the front/back flex at the arms.

Sounds like someone like Trail Duty could check with them on a group buy for some of us to try out and see if they work.

if phil gets them i'm in for a test of them.

I assume this means you'll be looking for it to:
1) immediately, take up some of the steering slop
2) in the moderate term, allow you to hold alignment better
3) longer term, reduce pitman/idler arm wear
So we'd have a good idea on #1 and #2 in the near future. Correct?

I've ordered too ...

Phil, do you lose your alignment because of wheeling, or does it just go out?

I lose my alignment very quickly just driving on the street. It's not out really bad, but enough for me to easily notice. Most people wouldn't, but I'm a bit more discerning.

Ken, "tomp" is the subject matter expert on alignments.

NOOOO...It says it must be installed by a professional mechanic!!!
It also states that it should take 45mins to a hour, so that means it will be an all day job for Phil!

So, I used a Rancho 5000 as a steering stab and mounted it just like stock. I've seen some mount them with the aftermarket mount where it has the u-bolts. Is the u-bolt setup where the problems lies?

If so, I should be good to go, then.

Yes, at least on the Fabtech one as it uses a plate at the idler arm, and has a hole in it for the idler nut, so it's got to go.

Fabtech also use a different bracket at the other end which fouls on the Cognito support.

If you are using the stock mounts, there should not be a problem. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Cool, I just ordered a set and will report back when I get them on.

That's different from the OTHER Rancho setup. So, I'm betting that the Rancho stabs would work, regardless.

It doesn't have that "plate" around the nut, I don't think.

Phil I think you might could check one of the Rancho stabs and see if you can replace your Fabtech stab with it. It's a universal mount and "clamps" around the center link, I guess further inboard of the nut.

I need a new mechanic and I hate Trail Duty, Hummer and Cognito right now. That is all!

Damn idler arm

You didn't shear it, did you?

No, read Phil's next post and you'll get the jist of it. You know it takes me six years to do something.

I removed the idler arm support bolts first and it moves everywhere when I try to work on the arm nut so I had to put it back in place and the wrench makes about an 1/8 turn each time.

I hate when I don't get to use an impact or air ratchet or something.

Fizzed.

Idler side is on. Had to take a break. Whew!

Does this one fit, no.... does this one fit, no.... does this one fit, no... does this one fit, yep. That's my system.

I don't think I have a 32mm, damn. What is that, like 1 1/2 inch.

300mm (12") adjustable will do the job. May need a rubber mallet to tap it off though. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I'm still on my break

Paragon: Posted 02-21-06 05:10 PM

Still on break?