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OLD NEWS:
So after my last trip to Moab, I was driving over Vail pass to come home and the SUT bogged down and killed over and over. Push on the gas it was worse. Pulled the battery cables and re-tried and problem solved. Dealer said it was some kind of O2 sensor issues. Also had some fuel canister changed out. No more issue since than and dealer could never duplicate. OnStar did fn\ind issues when diognostic ceck was done. NEW NEWS: So I went to run McCalisters Gulch today. So I packed up the wife and dogs and off we went. YIPPEEEE! Get to the trail head and start to make my way up some steep sections and having a blast. Get up to the Summit (1/3 way into the trail) and have lunch... just before is starts to rain. ![]() So now my SUT is in the driveway (all washed up already) but scratched to piss. (Kind of looks like Adam's truck now. JK). Now I have to drive this thing back down to the dealer again. So pissed at this point. OnStar said their are no issues coming up on their diognostics either. So I'm guessing the dealer won't figure this out either. Thoughts? Other than me going on and on? |
OLD NEWS:
So after my last trip to Moab, I was driving over Vail pass to come home and the SUT bogged down and killed over and over. Push on the gas it was worse. Pulled the battery cables and re-tried and problem solved. Dealer said it was some kind of O2 sensor issues. Also had some fuel canister changed out. No more issue since than and dealer could never duplicate. OnStar did fn\ind issues when diognostic ceck was done. NEW NEWS: So I went to run McCalisters Gulch today. So I packed up the wife and dogs and off we went. YIPPEEEE! Get to the trail head and start to make my way up some steep sections and having a blast. Get up to the Summit (1/3 way into the trail) and have lunch... just before is starts to rain. ![]() So now my SUT is in the driveway (all washed up already) but scratched to piss. (Kind of looks like Adam's truck now. JK). Now I have to drive this thing back down to the dealer again. So pissed at this point. OnStar said their are no issues coming up on their diognostics either. So I'm guessing the dealer won't figure this out either. Thoughts? Other than me going on and on? |
Stupid question perhaps, but could you have gotten some bad fuel? Onstar says nothing wrong, thus it would seem it could be a fuel problem of some sort. I had a problem with my computer at high altitudes, but there was a code. Either way, good luck, and I hope it's all that simple.
Spenser 2005 Stealth Gray SUV |
Spenser:
I'll be taking my 05 H2 hunting at 9,000 ft in the snow in October. Please tell me more about the computer problem you had at altitude and the computer code. Thanks, George SSSS |
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by timgco:
Thoughts? Other than me going on and on? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Call the dealer and see if they still have your old rig, then trade them out of it. ![]() ![]() |
So, everything buffed out today.. except three scratches that can be noticed only by me I'm sure.
Jonahs, the only time it has happened was at high altitude. not sure what Vail pass is at, but it's up there and that's also where I went off off roading too. So it has somethting to do with the high altitude. BTW, that's where it did it last time too. I doubt this has anything to do with bad gas as it's still on the same tank and it has doesn't it since I came off of Vail pass. It only acted up when it was around 11,000ft (just a guess). But at one point I was above timberline and the other I was just below. ??? |
I had a problem at 4500 ft with a Buick. It would sputter and developed a dead miss, much like a fouled plug. Turned around and limped it back to Phoenix, and to the dealer where they kept it overnight. The dealer replaced the plugs, and one plug wire, and it ran fine, until we headed out again and hit 4500 ft. Then same result. At the end, they realized it was the computer that was the real problem and at that altitude, so they changed it out and all was fine from then on. Maybe?????????
Spenser 2005 Stealth Grey SUV |
Guys:
I'm going to start a new thread with a title that talks about altitude effects to see what the general experience has been. The current title won't attract members with high altitude problems. That way, I won't necessarily hijack this thread to a direction that isn't helpful to timgo. Best regards, George |
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by timgco:
Jonahs, the only time it has happened was at high altitude. not sure what Vail pass is at, but it's up there and that's also where I went off off roading too. So it has somethting to do with the high altitude. BTW, that's where it did it last time too. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Then it sure sounds like altitude related. That may be real tough to track down but they sure need to do it for you. It's like you can't take your rig anywhere and rely on it. ![]() |
Ok, don't crucify me for this... just my take on things -- obviously I am no techno genius!
If it only happens when you are going uphill (I believe that is what I read), and not down, could it be something as simple as the fuel level or a faulty fuel pump? Just a thought... |
A few things come to mind:
Faulty pressure sensor in the fuel pump module. Faulty fuel cap. Barometric sensor. Something to do with the fuel return line being pinched or clogged. Some things to consider. |
Ok, I just went out and plugged in my Hypertech Programmer and it pulled a code P0300. Misfire detected. ??? I'm sure the dealer will have no luck in duplicating this sice we are only at a mile high. And I really don't want them driving this thing way up there. So I guess I'l find out on Monday or Tuesday.
Georege, I'll let you know what happens. Also, There are 5 or 6 of us here in CO that go up to the mountains all the time and have no issues. I had no issues with the 03... except the arirbags going out in the 03. Other than that, I'm not awarer of any altitude issues with any other CO owners. |
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by timgco:
Ok, I just went out and plugged in my Hypertech Programmer and it pulled a code P0300. Misfire detected. ??? I'm sure the dealer will have no luck in duplicating this sice we are only at a mile high. And I really don't want them driving this thing way up there. So I guess I'l find out on Monday or Tuesday. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> The P0300 code is engine misfire detected. Since each cylinder has its own ignition coil the only central component would be the PCM module. I'd have them start there by replacing the PCM. At higher altitude the pressure is less and possibly a connection is breaking down. |
I had a misfire problem with my #8 and #1 cylinders, they replaced a few things and now its fine. No altitude involved with my problem. I'm not sure what they replaced as I'm about a technologically inclined as a monkey with its hands cut off
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I had a loose spark plug wire after header installation. Intermittent as the wire connected some times and didn't some times.
Misfire detected. |
There could be an updated computer calibration to correct high altitude driveability concerns. But if you want my opinion, I think your problem may be a fuel pump. Sometimes they have to be run for a long time before they start to act up, then when they get towed to the shop, they don't act up. Also, the fuel pump is one of only a few things that will act up and not set any codes.
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SO, they went straight for the fuel pump and lines. Checking snesors after that I hope. I'll find out more in the AM.
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Please keep us posted. It affects most of us and the others, well -- -- enquiring minds want to know.
Good Luck, George SSSS |
Well, I got it back today. They told me that the full size Chevy vans have the same issue and the FUEL PUMP has been the issue.
So sice they could not duplicate, that's what they went with. They changed out the fuel pump and said it should be fine. I'll find out Friday at let you all know. If not, it will be strike TWO... provided i make it off the mountain. |
Now this high altitude stuff starting to scare me. A drive from here, about 10' above MLLW at the garage, to there, WAY HIGH, is going to cause problems. Maybe I shouldn't go to MOAB... Whatever...
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
Now this high altitude stuff starting to scare me. A drive from here, about 10' above MLLW at the garage, to there, WAY HIGH, is going to cause problems. Maybe I shouldn't go to MOAB... Whatever... ![]() I new your were going to be too scared to go to Moab. ![]() |
Kenny,
Don't be a (insert endearing term for "cat" here). I'm at altitude every winter weekend and just got back from CO where we cleared 12,000 feet a few times with no problem. You'll need a better excuse than that to wimp out! |
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tower:
Kenny, Don't be a (insert endearing term for "cat" here). I'm at altitude every winter weekend and just got back from CO where we cleared 12,000 feet a few times with no problem. You'll need a better excuse than that to wimp out! </div></BLOCKQUOTE> I was wondering my parts of the mountains were leaning to one side. ![]() |
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tower:
Kenny, Don't be a (insert endearing term for "cat" here). I'm at altitude every winter weekend and just got back from CO where we cleared 12,000 feet a few times with no problem. You'll need a better excuse than that to wimp out! </div></BLOCKQUOTE> That must be why you passed on Lion's Back when you had the chance. Not a big enough thrill for you. ![]() Did you lose your cherry over 12K? If so, what was his name? ![]() |
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tower:
Kenny, Don't be a (insert endearing term for "cat" here). I'm at altitude every winter weekend and just got back from CO where we cleared 12,000 feet a few times with no problem. You'll need a better excuse than that to wimp out! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Damn... |
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Well, I took her to 14,260 today!
Mount Evans (highest paved road in the US). Great views and the truck ran great! Now , to get it up there and get it dusty and see if it does it. Should be fine now and I think it was the dan fuel pump at this point. |
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by timgco:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tower: Kenny, Don't be a (insert endearing term for "cat" here). I'm at altitude every winter weekend and just got back from CO where we cleared 12,000 feet a few times with no problem. You'll need a better excuse than that to wimp out! </div></BLOCKQUOTE> I was wondering my parts of the mountains were leaning to one side. ![]() ...were they left favoring the "left"? ![]() |
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DRTYFN:
That must be why you passed on Lion's Back when you had the chance. Not a big enough thrill for you. ![]() Did you lose your cherry over 12K? If so, what was his name? ![]() Gosh, DRTY, my recollection is that while I was helping our crew tune their CB antennae, you ditched us to go do L.B. ![]() ![]() Why not take yourself your own woman (or whatever your preference is) to 12K' and worry about your own cherry? I will be happy to offer my expertise if you need some coaching beforehand. ![]() Hint: Try being a gentleman. It might work, even for you. Really. ![]() |
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DRTYFN:
Did you lose your cherry over 12K? If so, what was his name? ![]() Why not take yourself your own woman (or whatever your preference is) to 12K' and worry about your own cherry? I will be happy to offer my expertise if you need some coaching beforehand. ![]() QUOTE] I take it that's a big NO. |
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by timgco:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DRTYFN: Did you lose your cherry over 12K? If so, what was his name? ![]() Why not take yourself your own woman (or whatever your preference is) to 12K' and worry about your own cherry? I will be happy to offer my expertise if you need some coaching beforehand. ![]() QUOTE] I take it that's a big NO. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> ![]() And you have every right to be mistaken, Tim. But as a gemtleman, I will not say either way. ![]() ![]() ![]() Honestly, Tim, I'm kind of surprised. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tower:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by timgco: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DRTYFN: Did you lose your cherry over 12K? If so, what was his name? ![]() Why not take yourself your own woman (or whatever your preference is) to 12K' and worry about your own cherry? I will be happy to offer my expertise if you need some coaching beforehand. ![]() QUOTE] I take it that's a big NO. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> ![]() And you have every right to be mistaken, Tim. But as a gemtleman, I will not say either way. ![]() ![]() ![]() Honestly, Tim, I'm kind of surprised. ![]() ![]() ![]() UHM- I really don't want to know either. It's a joke! GET IT? A JOKE! NEVERMIND! Don't know if I'll find out in Moab though. Oct may not work for us. |
Sorry.
![]() Bummer, I was really hoping we would see you. We will be skiing in mid December. Any good wheeling then in CO, or is there too much snow? |
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tower:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tower: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DRTYFN: That must be why you passed on Lion's Back when you had the chance. Not a big enough thrill for you. ![]() Did you lose your cherry over 12K? If so, what was his name? ![]() Gosh, DRTY, my recollection is that while I was helping our crew tune their CB antennae, you ditched us to go do L.B. ![]() ![]() Why not take yourself your own woman (or whatever your preference is) to 12K' and worry about your own cherry? I will be happy to offer my expertise if you need some coaching beforehand. ![]() Hint: Try being a gentleman. It might work, even for you. Really. ![]() Trying to help with CB antennas??? LMAO!!!! You knew we were leaving to run it but stayed to dick around with CBs. What a convenient excuse. I don't know what was stopping you from going up after us. You only had 3 more days to do it. ![]() As for your "expertise" on cherry losing... Thanks, but no thanks. I'll keep my rectum intact. Being "that" kind of "gentleman" doesn't work for me. <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by timgco: I take it that's a big NO. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> ![]() And you have every right to be mistaken, Tim. But as a gemtleman, I will not say either way. ![]() ![]() ![]() Honestly, Tim, I'm kind of surprised. ![]() ![]() ![]() Your lack of ANY type of details is deafening after all of your crowing about meeting up with your dream girl. Hell, you were blabbering about how you two were going to meet and then... nothing. Not a peep, except to say you were being a "gentleman". ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DRTYFN:
Trying to help with CB antennas??? LMAO!!!! You knew we were leaving to run it but stayed to dick around with CBs. What a convenient excuse. I don't know what was stopping you from going up after us. You only had 3 more days to do it. ![]() Unlike you, DRTY, there really are people who don't leave their friends behind and in disrepair. Nowhere did I say I was trying to help out. The kid at Radioshack didn't know jack about tuning dual antenna rigs. It took quite a while and I had to explain it to him after letting him screw it up. If you doubt this, ask Tim. <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DRTYFN: Your lack of ANY type of details is deafening after all of your crowing about meeting up with your dream girl. Hell, you were blabbering about how you two were going to meet and then... nothing. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Gosh, DRTY, at the time, I considered you a good friend and trusted you. Shame on me for being so naive. I thought you would have been happy for me. Instead, you wrote PM’s to my girlfriend telling her that you thought we were a bad match. At this point, honestly, why would I confide anything to you? <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DRTYFN: Not a peep, except to say you were being a "gentleman". ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Your Vatican analogy implies that you think something did happen between me and H2B. You need to get your opinion straight. <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DRTYFN: As for your "expertise" on cherry losing... Thanks, but no thanks. I'll keep my rectum intact. Being "that" kind of "gentleman" doesn't work for me. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Well then how do you explain your hitting on H2B behind my back? And why do you keep pimping me for details? Why this fascination with my situation? Frankly, it seems pathological. I reiterate, Why not find your own woman (or whatever your preference is)? As far as the gentleman thing goes, do you really think that your references to donkey punches, blumpkins and dirty sanchez' will ever attract women to you? Time to grow up and get your own life, DRTY. Criticizing others is wearing desperately thin for you. Now how about burying the hatchet? I have asked you this before. |
<span class="ev_code_RED">Ok, gloves are off!!! </span>
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tower: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DRTYFN: Trying to help with CB antennas??? LMAO!!!! You knew we were leaving to run it but stayed to dick around with CBs. What a convenient excuse. I don't know what was stopping you from going up after us. You only had 3 more days to do it. ![]() Unlike you, DRTY, there really are people who don't leave their friends behind and in disrepair. Nowhere did I say I was trying to help out. The kid at radioshack didn't know jack about tuning dual antenna rigs. It took quite a while and I had to explain it to him after letting him screw it up. If you doubt this, ask Tim. <span class="ev_code_RED">How dare you say that I abandoned someone that was "in disrepair"!!! You chubby oaf!!! Playing around with antennas when we could be wheeling wasn't a priority. We went less than 2 miles up the hill to Lion's Back so we could do something that we'd all talked about and I'd driven 1018 miles to see. It's not like we ditched you to go run a major trail. And again, all you had to do was say that you wanted to run it and I would have been right there to do it with you. But you've conveniently forgotten that you were mysteriously SILENT about going up there on a second run. I don't remember LB getting closed down for renovations. </span> <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DRTYFN: As for your "expertise" on cherry losing... Thanks, but no thanks. I'll keep my rectum intact. Being "that" kind of "gentleman" doesn't work for me. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Well then how do you explain your hitting on H2B behind my back? And why do you keep pimping me for details? <span class="ev_code_RED">Me talking to her doesn't constitute "hitting on". If that's the case, then does you PM'ing some of the married women on this board qualify as "hitting on"? Might want to share that little tidbit with your "girlfriend". ![]() <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DRTYFN: Your lack of ANY type of details is deafening after all of your crowing about meeting up with your dream girl. Hell, you were blabbering about how you two were going to meet and then... nothing. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Gosh, DRTY, at the time, I considered you a good friend and trusted you. Shame on me. I thought you would have been happy for me, rather than writing PM’s to my girlfriend. At this point, honestly, why would I confide anything to you? <span class="ev_code_RED">Don't fool yourself- you thought of me as a way into this forum and a potential free bumper. Please explain to me again how you're such a prominent person in such a position of high exposure that it would benefit me by GIVING you a winch bumper set up. And oh yeah, thanks for being a friend and telling me to hold off on confronting MileMarker about ripping off our prototype bumper design until you got a free one from them. That sure was friendly of you. ![]() <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DRTYFN: Not a peep, except to say you were being a "gentleman". ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Why this fascination with my situation? I reiterate, Why not find your own woman (or whatever your preference is)?<span class="ev_code_RED">Sorry, but I didn't set off anyone's homo alert and no one thought I was tip-toeing on the other team's sideline... oops- did I say that out loud? I'm fascinated the same way someone is when looking at a car wreck. You invited Dennis & I to a PM so you could basically brag about your "conquest" and you expect me to just forget about it now? Are you ****ing kidding me??? You broadcast it far & wide and now you don't want any publicity???</span> As far as the gentleman thing goes, do you really think that your references to donkey punches, blumpkins and dirty sanchez' will ever atteract women to you? Time to grow up, DRTY.<span class="ev_code_RED">Oh, I'm sorry. Did you not understand that I don't use the Internet as a dating service? I prefer to meet women in person and not resort to trading car parts for blind dates with someone's sister. ![]() ANY type of details is deafening after all of your crowing about meeting up with your dream girl. Hell, you were blabbering about how you two were going to meet and then... nothing. Not a peep, except to say you were being a "gentleman". :rolleyes. You suddenly got as tight-lipped as the Vatican is about child-molesting. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Your Vatican analogy implies that you think something did happen between me and H2B. You need to get your opinion straight.[/quote] <span class="ev_code_RED">Actually, I don't think anything happened(unless you somehow convinced her to use a strap-on on you). </span> |
DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN!!!!!!!!
![]() That's some funny but true **** Tower. You did initiate it with us. You should know the nature of this group. It WAS all in good fun but it seems you couldn't swallow your own medicine. Keep your ego in check and mabye you won't get picked on so much. |
Damn...
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DennisAJC:
DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN!!!!!!!! ![]() That's some funny but true **** Tower. You did initiate it with us. You should know the nature of this group. It WAS all in good fun but it seems you couldn't swallow your own medicine. Keep your ego in check and mabye you won't get picked on so much. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> I didn't know "EGO" is measured in lbs. ![]() |
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