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DRTYFN 08-22-2006 09:42 PM

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These are pictures from our last trip to The Ranch. After having driven around at a similar distance from the water at a different spot and finding the surface to be suitable for the weight of the H2 I drove out to look at a mysterious deceased bird(:giggling:). As I turned to head back to drier ground I could feel myself starting to lose traction & momentum. I let off the gas, got out to survey the situation and decided I was only going to make it worse by trying to spin out of it. Trust me on this - I have LOTS of experience with this area(Antelope Sink)- at times it's a tank trap. After my buddy's H1(with 39" Iroks) failed to jerk snatch it out with a strap jerk we hook up the synthetic line to the H1 and started winching. I wasn't horribly stuck at first, but that changed soon enough. At first, all the winching did was drag the H1 towards my rig. Then, with the winch line pulled tight, the H1 spun its tires to dig in a little bit to anchor itself. The 12K Warn winch started to do its job. All I can say is that winch rocks. Because of where my H2 was positioned and the direction it was pointing, winching had to be done from a 70-80 degree angle at first. Since the H2 was basically being winched sideway, it started building up big berm of mud which increased the resistance. Lot's of shoveling & winching later the H2 was again free. After that we did cookies.:D

DRTYFN 08-22-2006 09:44 PM

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After a little bit of tugging with a strap. The rocking motion made it sink in more.:OWNED:

DRTYFN 08-22-2006 09:45 PM

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Initial winching angle.

DRTYFN 08-22-2006 09:48 PM

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DRTYFN 08-22-2006 09:49 PM

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This is where the shoveling really got started.

DRTYFN 08-22-2006 09:50 PM

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1/2 way to freedom.

DRTYFN 08-22-2006 09:51 PM

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I don't think there's a tire out there that would have been able to done much in this stuff.

DRTYFN 08-22-2006 09:51 PM

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The Trap.

DRTYFN 08-22-2006 09:53 PM

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Not getting much traction with this kind of mud - EVER.

DRTYFN 08-22-2006 09:55 PM

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Many:beerchug: followed this afternoon of fun.:D

ZigsRig 08-22-2006 09:58 PM

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you would have made it if you didnt have thouse street tires on there ;) :D

did you ever find out what caused the bird to perish? :p

CO Hummer 08-22-2006 10:07 PM

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Nice pix and nice camos! :D

I wouldn't get stuck with my new mudders I'm getting on Friday. :D

DRTYFN 08-22-2006 10:24 PM

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I would have gotten stuck even with my Iroks. That was some deceptive & nasty stuff.

As for the bird - it was weird how it just suddenly popped.:giggling:

CO Hummer 08-22-2006 10:26 PM

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I would have gotten stuck even with my Iroks. That was some deceptive & nasty stuff.


I think it was driver error!



Now answer my PM, DRTYSTUCK. :mad: :D

dochummer 08-22-2006 10:37 PM

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Where's the bird?!? :)

tomp 08-22-2006 10:59 PM

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Try this next time...

-go heavy on the gas to keep tires clean, when you feel like things are going south

-Once stuck, do not apply any throttle and let the winch pull you up on top of the mud. Otherwise you will just keep digging trenches and dragging on the undercarriage.

I mud alone in the middle of BFE alot and these have saved me lots of times.

Hope this helps...

DRTYFN 08-22-2006 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tomp
Try this next time...

-go heavy on the gas to keep tires clean, when you feel like things are going south

-Once stuck, do not apply any throttle and let the winch pull you up on top of the mud. Otherwise you will just keep digging trenches and dragging on the undercarriage.

I mud alone in the middle of BFE alot and these have saved me lots of times.

Hope this helps...


Uhhh.... It's not like this was my first time playing at The Sink. I've got lots of history there. If I would have gunned it in that location with my tires at that angle I would have immediately been up to my doors and not just on my frame. The problem with that mud is that with any kind of motion you get liquefaction which just exacerbates the problem. Speaking from experience, I did the right thing for the situation.

Arrow A points to the recent waterline. The entire prairie had been underwater since probably early March.
Arrow B points to a nearly perfect tank trap quagmire. If I'd punched it I would have ended up there for sure. The only way out of that would have been with an 8-wheeled floater. Been there & done that.(Me=:OWNED:)
Arrow C points to No Man's Land. Cows don't even go out there. They might be simple animals, but they're not completely stupid.

DRTYFN 08-22-2006 11:28 PM

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Last time I really got stuck I had to get pulled out by one of these(but without the blade). Now we play "Go!! You pussy!!" to see who will go out furthest. This usually involves copious amounts of some type grog.:beerchug:

31_bandits 08-22-2006 11:32 PM

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Uhhh.... It's not like this was my first time playing at The Sink. I've got lots of history there. If I would have gunned it in that location with my tires at that angle I would have immediately been up to my doors and not just on my frame. The problem with that mud is that with any kind of motion you get liquefaction which just exacerbates the problem. Speaking from experience, I did the right thing for the situation.

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cools pics and stories. pseudoplasticity. i think i know the kidn of muck you mean, and you're just plain fcked deep, and long, once you're stuck, or once you break through the surface which is often more dry or has some vegetation to give it faint solidity. (if what you're showing is what i'm thinking of)

this is why i believe wheeling not involving rocks should never be done more than 400 yards from something that says "Caterpillar" or "John Deere" on the side.

31_bandits 08-22-2006 11:33 PM

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Last time I really got stuck I had to get pulled out by one of these(but without the blade). :


that's what i'm talking about! see, i don't know how a jeep is going to pull a hummer out of the mud. a pickup sure can;t. but one of those can. :D :D

CO Hummer 08-22-2006 11:35 PM

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Arrow C points to No Man's Land. Cows don't even go out there.


Do Now!!!!! :D



Tomp, This guy knows about Cows, and especially horses. So listen to him!

black20 08-23-2006 04:41 AM

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cleaning that bad boy had to be fun.

KenP 08-23-2006 06:42 AM

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Do Now!!!!! :D



Tomp, This guy knows about Cows, and especially horses. So listen to him!

Horses and men are famous up there in the Northeast.:eek:

That looks like some sticky, nasty mud.

You should have aired down and driven straight out.:rolleyes: ;)

ree 08-23-2006 01:25 PM

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Nice pictures DRTY. How long did all that take once you got stuck? I'm too lazy to check for EXIF timestamps in the pictures.
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Now we play "Go!! You pussy!!" to see who will go out furthest. This usually involves copious amounts of some type grog
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Funny how fast two guys can spiral into serious groupthink stupidity.

PARAGON 08-23-2006 01:57 PM

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Horses and men are famous up there in the NorthWEST.:eek:

That looks like some sticky, nasty mud.

You should have aired down and driven straight out.:rolleyes: ;)

geographically fixed

PARAGON 08-23-2006 02:19 PM

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a few months after I got the truck we buried it to the frame, putting the tubular steps under the mud. No pics of the recovery as it was frustrating.

We got an 80 HP tractor stuck trying to get it out and ended up walking a dozer all the way over to that field to pull both of them out.

When these things stick good, they don't like to come out.

PARAGON 08-23-2006 02:20 PM

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PARAGON 08-23-2006 02:21 PM

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point of reference. you can see where the tube steps are on the DS and how much was buried on the PS

CO Hummer 08-23-2006 05:47 PM

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P,
Did you take those photos from a submarine? What's with the black circle on the borders?

PARAGON 08-23-2006 05:56 PM

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P,
Did you take those photos from a submarine? What's with the black circle on the borders?

some kind of lens doubler or something I had for that camera. Unless you zoomed in some it gave you that port-hole look

KenP 08-23-2006 06:29 PM

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geographically fixed

Thanks.:shhh: :beerchug:

TXSUT 08-23-2006 06:49 PM

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Looks like the front right tire never did any spinning. :confused:

PARAGON 08-23-2006 07:06 PM

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Looks like the front right tire never did any spinning. :confused:

The tires were no longer grabbing anything and the front was simply spinning in water, self-washing. The truck and tractor had sat overnight, stuck there.

The pics were taken the next morning after the sun had come up and started drying that side.

Harry Finklestein 08-23-2006 07:16 PM

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Holy Matzo!:eek:

That is some mud.:D

TXSUT 08-23-2006 07:59 PM

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The tires were no longer grabbing anything and the front was simply spinning in water, self-washing. The truck and tractor had sat overnight, stuck there.

The pics were taken the next morning after the sun had come up and started drying that side.


Damn, that must have been a pretty deep hole on that side, to be high-centered like that.

drmiles 08-23-2006 08:08 PM

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Here is my contribution. There is always a hole with no bottom somewhere

:beerchug:

drmiles 08-23-2006 08:10 PM

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Can you beat this :perfect10s:

DRTYFN 08-24-2006 01:04 AM

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Can you beat this :perfect10s:


Yes, I can. This is original, never before seen picture of the sinking of my 1st H2. I had a water mark on the passenger's inside door handle. FYI, the engine ran the entire time without drawing water past the plastic intake vent. I almost went to the hospital for hypothermia from trying to dig it out in 38 degree water. That sucked.:crying:

DRTYFN 08-24-2006 01:06 AM

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This is the same hole 6 months later. My buddy's Zuki had 39-40" Iroks on and he got stuck too. Notice how much lower the water is.

h2co-pilot 08-24-2006 01:56 AM

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Do you own jeans Drty?;)

You guys are sum muddy monkeys. Recovery is kinda fun when the weather is nice. I would say sorry, but the pics are kinda awesome. No damage right?

The first sinking looks awful.:(


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