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what 's the correct air pressure when doing it on sand, on highway, and on offroad.?
any recommend air pressure for tire.....?:confused:
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I'm still experimenting with tire pressure myself, but this is what I've tried with the stock tires so far. On road, 40 psi was pretty stiff on denver's cracked pavement, but 35 rides much nicer. 25 psi gave me plenty of traction on dirt and gravel going up red cone, but 20 did much better on rocks during my last trip. I may try 18 psi next trip and see how it goes. Haven't run any sand yet.
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"what 's the correct air pressure when doing it"
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i run 38 on pavement , it is a rougher ride :jump: .
sand and offroad , i go down to 15-18 psi and have not had any problems :D you get great traction at 15 :beerchug: |
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sand:10-12 , dirt/ gravel:20-25 (if you really feel like airing down), road/freeway:30-35 (if you want the smoothest ride),40 (if you want the best mpg) ,I tried 41 for a week or so, screw the mpg!
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dude, there is a lot of air coming out from the tire, we are talking about from 40 psi, and air down to 15 to 20.....would that hold a 5000 lb machine ??
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The tire guys put 45 psi in my new tires and the mpg did increase, barely, but the ass ache wasn't worth it. Dropped to 36 and its perfect. Haven't done any trails that required 18psi, YET! But @ 36, the last trail I did do I should have dropped to 25, but no slippage, just a little rough and had to go a little slower to make sure I didn't blow one out.
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I keep 35 lbs in all the time.
at the beach or offroading I go down to 18lbs with tire deflators. Sometimes I hit a trail without airing down at all :eek: . I hit some trails in Ga and had some slipping without airing down. Stupid of me because we were the only ones there and I have onboard air and deflaters .:twak: Anything more than a light dirt trail = airdown,better safe than sorry |
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35 street 18 off road, no probs with stock wrangler tire yet.:grouphug:
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where do you buy the tire deflator ? how is it look like ? |
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Worth every penny. :D I bought mine from this guy on Ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/4WD-Staun-Tire-DEFLATORS-for-OFFROAD-CAMPING-4X4-NEW_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33746QQihZ012QQitem Z220024949800QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW |
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a must get if your goin out a few times a year ;)
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35-36 on the street and 17-20 in MOAB, UT - works everytime. Attachment 29957 Attachment 29958 |
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Got mine from them too! |
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stauns are good
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I love this shot you got :beerchug: very cool :dancingbanana: |
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PSI Pad :dancingbanana:
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I'm looking at getting some tire deflators, but man are they expensive! Why?
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? There brass,very few companys make them,they work well ? I had them 2 years and never had to take them apart to clean. I dont leave them on when offroading so they dont get dirty. I do check them once a year(not off by more then 1 psi) reset to 18lbs spray a little wd on the top . Also get the no lose valve caps ,like having a extra hand. Oh! best of all... they sound cool airing down ,real cool when you drive airing down ![]() |
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18 PSI? That's total right? As in 4.5 psi per tire?
For most vehicles / tires, it's not worth getting out of the truck, much less having to air back up if you don't go down to at least 10 PSI. To get a good ball park, park on pavement and measure from the ground to the bottom edge of the rim. Reducing this distance by 25% will give you the largest foot print you can get (unless you want to get technical and do a ton of measuring). It depends on the tire and weight of the vehicle, but in most cases your looking at about 5 PSI, but may be anywhere from 2 to 10 PSI. |
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Your either a funny guy :giggling: or you have no idea what the f your talking about.:twak: Or you 4 wheel on the moon :OWNED: |
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Evidently you are running helium in your tires. When you air down stop inhaling it!:dancingbanana: |
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Yeh ill put in 2psi in the tires and go wheeling.:fdance:
I dont think you can go that low with bead locks :twak: ![]() |
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Heres me on the moon:jump: |
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How's the moondust up there?:jump:
On road 35, desert dunes 14, rocks & wadi's 20 running on 33" BFG A/T KO'S Hope this helps. |
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My first inclination was to blow you off and let you go on with wasting your time airing down to 18 PSI.
As for web wheeling, I learned how to drive off road before the INTERNET existed. I don't have many picture, I'm normally busy driving, not in it for the pictures. I found an article that goes in to a lot more detail to explain what I said. http://www.4x4now.com/sfjun96.htm 2 PSI is extreme and and in many cases would require bead locks. You do need to be prepared and have an extra spare or two as well as means of re-seating a bead. It is also the low end of the spectrum but you will find that the big difference comes in those last 10 pounds. Take it or leave it guys, If you don't feel safe going under 18 PSI, fine, it doesn't effect me unless you're on the trail in front of me. fourfourto I'd appreciate an apology for your comment "This thread got invaded by AE's or trolls...or some Frickin stupid newbee's ." as I can only assume you were referring to me. I don't like being called stupid, especially when I'm right. |
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fourfourto I'd appreciate an apology for your comment "This thread got invaded by AE's or trolls...or some Frickin stupid newbee's ." as I can only assume you were referring to me. I don't like being called stupid, especially when I'm right.
I never said you couldnt go down under 18 lbs im sure 15 or 12 is fine but going under 10 without beadlocks.I dont think anyone here has beadlocks on a 3 Another newbie thinks hes right.,Your link didnt prove anything except the lower the air more traction.I you go under 10psi you could blow(your favorite word):giggling: your tire off the rim. If anyone here agree's with this guy let me know. Also does anyone airdown under 10 ? I dont think so Steve #1 if you could get a few regulars to agree with you then I will take back my comment otherwise :fdance: Not sure about you steve #1 but GVCOGUY got to be a AE My comment was for both of you. |
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What? :confused: There are some that might try to help but..... What tire? What wheel? Road or off road? What rig - H2, H3, H1 - Jeep? Come on man... gotta help us out here (ESP not working). http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/s...t=air+pressure |
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Seriously, what planet are you wheeling on? I've aired down to 15-18 for rock and 12 for sand that was fine as talc (Oceano Dunes, CA). Where the hell have you wheeled with 2 PSI in your wheels? :lame: The article you site does not even mention pressures less than 7 PSI. And nowhere does it recommend that. I guess you could read articles and Web-Wheel with zero or even negative pressure in your tires. :giggling: What exactly do you personally carry to re-attach your beads? Or do they just adhere from the negative pressure (vacuum)?:dancingbanana: |
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I would assume where talking about a H3
That thread seems to back me up. Bebe said not to go under 15 psi(rocks)seams low for sands about 12 ,I do fine at 18LBS The beach at cedar point east hampton last weekend I didnt even air down it had no deep spots a(little slippy here and there) S#1 do you see why I snaped at you for telling me to run 5psi.:OWNED: Cant we all just get along:grouphug: I dont like to argue ![]() |
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Guys that run serious rock-crawling rigs run between 1-5 PSI all the time. Of course they're normally running beadlocks. ;) I wouldn't recommend it in the H3. But for rock-crawling, I've run as low as 8-12 PSI. 18 PSI is about the highest PSI I'll run offroad.
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X2 :iagree: For the H3, with stock wheels, and Toyo M/T 35's. |
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Funny, you don't like to argue. :giggling: I never said what pressure to run in your H3. I told you how to determine what pressure to run in your H3. Your the one that got stuck on 2 PSI and 5 PSI. If you read my original post you will see I used the fallowing phrases: "It depends on the tire and weight of the vehicle" "in most cases your looking at about 5 PSI" "may be anywhere from 2 to 10 PSI" These are called generalities. Most Americans have learned this by they time they get to a fifth grade English class. I apologize if I have over estimated your grasp of the English language. I've only had my H3 a few weeks. I haven't taken it off road, so I don't know specifically what the tire pressure ends up being. I do know that 25% is 25%, but remember, this is to get "a good ballpark" . If you are having a hard time with the concept of reducing the sidewall height by 25%, go out and measure how high off the ground the bottom of your rim sits. Respond with that measurement here and I'll do the math for you and let you know what height you need to go down to. At that time it will be your responsibility to use a tire gage and find out how much PSI is in your tires. You may want to go a little lower on sand or keep it a little higher on sharp rocks The the key words were "a good ballpark" . If you don't understand the way in which I have used the term "ballpark" go here and look at definition number 2. Last time I was on a beach (North Padre Island) I was running 4 PSI in my F150 my buddy was running about the same in his full size Dodge. We ended up with a guy in a Ranger tagging along with us. This run is 110 miles of mostly soft sand with a mile or two of shell and an additional 10 miles of packed sand and 10-15 miles of highway to the closest gas station. We hit one of the area of shell at high tide. The guy in the Ranger was worried about trying to pass because he almost got stuck a few times and was running low on fuel as it was. After talking with him a bit we found that he was running 20 psi in his tires and had been in 4wd the whole time (normally you use 4wd when you start and stop and kick it in to 2wd the rest of the time). We dropped his tire pressure down and he was able to make the rest of the trip without getting stuck (the way home was all lose sand) or running out of fuel, and had a lot more fun in 2wd. Maybe the beach you were on and didn't air down was hard packed an you didn't need to, or maybe you just didn't know better like the guy that was with me in the Ranger. The difference is that the guy in the Ranger could see how little air we had in our tires and could see that it was working for us and believed us when we told him that it would work for him. He learned a little something on that trip. fourfourto, I'm not arguing with you, I'm just trying to explain it to you. Your the one calling me stupid and throwing out the :OWNED: . |
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Apparently you also have a hard time reading. All my off roading has been done on earth, but since you brought it up, on planets (or moons) without atmosphere special non pneumatic tires reinforced with wire cable or mesh are used. I never said I had offroaded with 2PSI, I have gone down to 4-5 PSI on North Padre Island. I'm not sure what the article I linked to said as far as PSI. I found that it gave a good explanation of the 25% rule (which was the point I was trying to make). What do I carry to reattach beads? Well, here's a little list of things that can be used, which at any given time I may have an assortment of. - High lift jack - handy for removing the wheel from the vehicle as well as pressing the wheel back on to the rim. - Water and rags for cleaning the rim in order to get a good seal. - A tire iron - a valve stem tool - high pressure air or CO2 tank - can of starter fluid and a lighter - not saying it's safe, but most of the time it works. |
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Gosh, do you think it's wise for you to be giving advice, bitching out others or criticizing their ability to understand English (given the way you spell and punctuate)? :lame: I don't think you are making any friends here and you don't own anything! :perfect10s::perfect10s::perfect10s::perfect10s::perfect10s::perfect10s::perfect10s::perfect10s::perfect10s: |
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I didn't notice any punctuation or grammar mistakes (spelling is not my forte), but once again you have missed the point of what I was saying.
I didn't say I "owned" anything or anybody. You failed to read what I had typed. You're running in circles, first implying that I only know about offroading from articles I've read on the INTERNET. Then when I say I don't recall everything that was in the article (which I found after my initial post) you tell me to STFU and not be guessing. Which is it? Do you want me to know from experience or know from things I've read? Would you prefer I be like the rest of the lemmings and just blindly agree with you? If you are trying to make it look like I don't have any experience, you are wrong and once again haven't read. As far as making friends, that's unfortunate, but there are some friends I am just as well of not having. |
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