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Spring shackle skid plate
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I saved these pictures from somewhere. Does anybody know where to get these? I thought it may have been Amstar? Which means thru the stealer.
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I am not seeing your pics. But the only shock skid plates are made by AMStar.
www.amstarfun.com The only way to get it is from your dealer, but not all dealers have these accessories yet. I went to my dealer today and they still don't have anything. A dealer in Pasadena has started to carry them, but they are about 200 bucks. |
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Well maybe for now, its time to break out the plasma cutter and make sparks! I trashed some shackles on an old FJ55 and had to use the blue wrench to get them off, once.....
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Those are the Amstar plates which unfortunately means over priced. Hopefully someone will come out with an option soon.
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Hunner
Check out this thread. It has the part numbers for the skids etc. http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=20559 |
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So how much does everyone think they are worth? $100?Maybe powder coated in blue or yellow or my personal favorite "black" with a slightly different shape to avoid any patent. I mean skids are skids and have to fit the application. Im not sure the bottom holes are necessary. Re-Torque the bolts while installing. How often has anyone done that on a vehicle. Yea some mud will get on them but can be powerwashed off. Its not going to run off down those holes after they get plugged up. Just asking. If people are polishing there drive shafts and painting mufflers who knows whats possible?
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Most skids I have seen on the market (all for other vehicles :rant:) are in the $45-75 range. Considering the low volume for this skid I think $75 is fair but I could stomach $100 and would purchase at that price.
You need the bottom holes to re-apply and torque the u-bolt nuts. This is what similar models look like not installed: ![]() ![]() ![]() Oh, by the way... None of the above are over $60 for the pair. :rolleyes: |
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Good info. Does anyone know a dealer that carries the Amstar ones. My dealer parts guy was totally out of touch. Monday I plan to talk to the owner and see if he can get up to speed on this. I would buy a set just to fab up something but not reinvent the wheel so to speak.
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Those are great, but....
I would love it if the H3 had a spring over set-up in the rear. Then, we could do away with them all together. If you put the springs over the axle, we would probably get a 6" lift. Way too much! I wish there was an option to go spring over and replace the springs to lift it 2-4". Oh well, I guess that I will have to deal with the allready kick ass capabilities of the stock truck. http://web.mac.com/garnerbiker/iWeb/Site%202/H3.html |
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Someone agrees with me?
Thanks man. |
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If these fit the H3 you cats better be puckerin' up to kiss my ass real good..
http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/...dium-p-33.html $40 ![]() -- Rob |
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Those are not skids. They are just the U-bolt plates. And no they won't work. |
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I got my AmStar skids and will put them on this weekend.
They look like skis and no they aren't red. The are black. |
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:giggling: Sewies a little cranky today..... |
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Sorry crash, I just spoke with Dan this morning, he has no skids. Not interested in making them either...:( But he does have oodles of shackles...need to go measure them. |
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Please post some pics of your skids. :) |
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That's an odd request. Perhaps you should rephrase. :shhh: Attachment 31339 |
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Now that is just wrong!!! Funny, but wrong! REPHRASED QUESTION: Please post pictures of your new shock skid PLATES when you get them. Happy now?;) |
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I think when we spoke this morning I thought you were talking whole vehicle skid plates. We are making them for some vehicles but not yet in full production. These Ubolt skids are pretty easy to make and they are on my list. If someone can verify for me that the leaf springs are GM width (2.5") and the axle housing is within the realm (2.75" - 3.25") they would fit fine. I will be making them both 3/8" thick, we don't play around. The cost would be $70 -80.....a pair. Dan Fredrickson www.ruffstuffspecialties.com 916.600.945 Your Fabrication Parts Source |
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YEA!!! :jump: I'll try to get under there with a tape measure this AM and maybe take some pics. :dancingbanana: |
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Well poo.. That'll learn me to get info off the FJ Forum site..
Guess I let it outta the bag I'm somewhat new to this game to huh..?? -- Rob |
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Sweet, I'll call you in a bit. Did you get the measurements I sent for the shackles? |
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Dan.. I think if you can come up with some solid fab parts for the H3 and can meet the demand, you'll be ahead of a lotta folks.. I may be wrong, but I think there are only 3 folks making Rock Rails for the H3 right now (GM, Rocky Roads and someone else I can't remember the name of has some in development). Complete Undercarage Protection.. I think that GM is about the only choice right now (but I could be wrong).. There are a lot of folks that are really pushing the H3s into tough stuff and there's not a lot of choices yet to keep the rocks off places they aren't supposed to be.. Once again I could be wrong about that... |
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Not sure if anybody will find this update here but.....
I got some from that big place in the sky. Well, they went to all the trouble to make them and came up short. One of the main areas I think that needed protecting was the bolt for the shock. The plate starting at the back on the inside needs to be 1 inch wider tapering to about 1/2 inch at the front to get both the bolt and eliminate a shelf right at the bottom spring plate. In the second picture you can see the meat hooks I got already. I ground them off and will repaint. Im working on the cad drawings and having the laser programmed. When I get a prototype and a cost figure I will repost. Probably Monday. |
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OK, maybe I missed it, but who exactly made those? :confused: |
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Those pictures turned out dark after uploading so I lightend them here. I added a picture that shows why all those Jeep ones somebody posted and generic flat ones will not work. Not for me anyway. This is a start but needs more width. Just a enough to protect the shock bolt head and get out past the bottom shackle plate. Without protecting that its going to get bashed up. Im thinking since a lot of people think its so easy and cheap, that I will make it strong but maybe no finish like a lot of aftermarket products. I have painted a bunch for Jeeps with rockrails. Powder coat or paint would add labor and cost. Then you can go to the hardware store and buy primer and paint any color your fancy desires. Black will work though! Now Im working on a skid for the front of the rear springs. I have already nailed one of mine! It would be nice to know when crawling over rocks that when you hear that squalling sound or a thud that it was a skid and not some mounting hardware. You'all do offroad right??
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I agree teh front spring perch needs a skid plate
Do you have an pics yet? Ho about a tooth from a backhoe bucket turned upside down and welded on:) |
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Quanto Dinero Pablo?
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How much they look nice :D
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Is AMstar shipping any product yet? I still am a little underwhelmed by the amount of aftermarket support on our beloved H3s.
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the part number floating around here somewhere for the amstart Spring shackle skid plate. yes somebody here does them thier H3
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So when will these be available?
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Hey Desert Dan, Where did you pick up the skids? at a dealer? or somewhere else. How do you like them? |
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I ordered mine thru the dealer. I ahd to give the the part number and they had to Amstar to confirm.
They look great. I haven't had time to put them on yet. Between work and moving last weekend no time for wrenching:) |
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Here's my Amstar skid plates, picked up today, got the service manual a few days ago too :D
Attachment 32555 Installation surprise follows... READ THIS: the Amstar instructions say you must remove and discard existing U-bolts and nuts, but retain the washers (:yawn: ) and replace with new GM u-bolts and nuts :confused: or void any warranty for the skids. Is this standard procedure ?? guess I got to drive 100 miles round trip back to the dealer for that :mad: wish I knew ahead of time. ANYONE KNOW THE REASON FOR THIS? (serious replies only please) Attachment 32556 Some powder coating on the edge of skids is already falling off, but hey, I plan to make even more come off myself. Oh yeah, you want to know the price... skids from dealer $210 plus tax! and the service manuals from Helm $135 plus shipping! Ouch and Ouch! |
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looking forward to pics after you install them. That is wierd about replacing the u-bolt!?! Aren't you just going to replace with the same bolt? I could understand if they gave you new bolts to install, the bolts should be included for $200 bucks :mad:.
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Actually I paid
$210.00 13.14 tax 12.00 shipping $235.14 total for brand "A" Im not sure the best way to handle this. Im all set up to make my version of this that actually protects the inside end of the shock bolt and the inside edge of the shackle plate. See previous pictures of how the other does not even at the $235.00 price. It Seems brand "A" is plasma cut with rough edges and so the powder coat peels off. It peels off around the holes as well, in the box. Mine are going to be laser cut and I will prime and paint my personal ones. To save on cost to buyers I was thinking of no finish. You can always paint any color and touch up with a spray can. If you really get in the rocks as we do here they will need touched up often. I dont want to upset our hosts and I have seen many violations of their rules about selling products. So now what do I do? I have the pattern for the front of the spring mounts ready as well. I still need to double check packaging and shipping before I quote a price. I was going to get folks to PM me and use Pay Pal if that works out. I started all this to help folks but it may get too complicated. I want to get a feel for how many I could sell before production to get an even better price. I really dont need 40 of these sitting around. If this gets edited then I will have to figure some way to post to a web site and hopefully be found that way. Could take quite a bit of time that way. I will try to find out more and quote a price very soon. It will be less than brand "A" with the option to add the front ones. More later. 1secondwind@comcast.net |
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Ok, here goes. First to save time read all that other stuff and look at the pictures. I don't do this for a business. I just thought if I went to the trouble to have this done I would help others. I have already saved my shocks and mounting with mine. I saw in H2 the Rubicon run. I would like to know how the H3's made it thru that without these and what their shocks and shackles look like. I will post in H3 classifieds.
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