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MAC 12-14-2003 12:06 AM

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Took me a couple hours of studying and working on exchanging the grill, finally realized I just don't have the right tool. Finally I drove to a local gas station and got it done for $10.

MAC 12-14-2003 12:06 AM

Took me a couple hours of studying and working on exchanging the grill, finally realized I just don't have the right tool. Finally I drove to a local gas station and got it done for $10.

MAC 12-14-2003 12:10 AM

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For 2 minutes, there was no brush guard, the Hummer looked super handsome, but I decided I need the brush guard for protection.

Kevin B 12-14-2003 12:13 AM

Nice "UMME" MAC

MAC 12-14-2003 12:13 AM

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Rain stopped this morning and will start again tonight, so the Hummer is really dirty. Normally I would present it in a far more cleaner condition.

MAC 12-14-2003 12:17 AM

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Opportunity knocks for you offroad guys, you know you'll scratch that chrome grill one day, might as well buy a shiny perfect condition chrome grill from MAC at a bargain price. It it perfect, not a scratch, only 1 year new, well 14 months.

MAC 12-14-2003 12:24 AM

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The only thing I can add is that it looks 1000% better in person than these photos.

[This message was edited by MAC on 12-13-03 at 06:55 PM.]

NJ H2 12-14-2003 12:31 AM

Very Nice! I like the black out look!

H2 MODS:
Xtremeflow Exhaust, Power Flash Programmer, Xtremeflow Intake, Hella Bixenons, Polished Skid Plate, Chrome OEM Wheels, Chrome Driving Light Bezels, Rosen R6500, Alpine DVD NAV

MAC 12-14-2003 01:03 AM

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Before. Was nice too.

Patriot 12-14-2003 01:20 AM

Mac,

It the grill gloss black? Too shiny?

I'd love a more satin black rather than a glossy black

Kevin B 12-14-2003 01:28 AM

MAC you mean you dont own a screwdriver?

MAC 12-14-2003 01:45 AM

I am sure they must some laws to make offroad lights illegal, always in the small print. My cop friend told me they can find something wrong with almost every car if they really want to stop someone, I got lots of cop friends. I just found the covers few days ago and put them on for a change. Cops and my Hummer crossed path 100s times last year, no one ever stop me or talk to me about having no cover.

The grill is glossy, which is just right, matches the body paint. I usually like matte non-glossy black.

My only obstacle was those 4 big screws holding the brush guard, I could not get them to move. Gas station aimgo had air tool, took less than 1 second each screw.

KenP 12-14-2003 01:49 AM

Mac, your rig looks beautiful. That all black looks great.

You need to get these. http://elcova.com/groupee/forums?a=tpc&s=2826088551&f=6706011751&m=542607771 5&r=3836010815#3836010815

Black Lingenfelter Lux

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MAC 12-14-2003 03:57 AM

Thanks Ken, the black out lense is a bit too much for me.
When we got home, my son excitely called out my wife to look at the black grill. She looked and looked and asked: "what's new? what did you change?" and went back in. To most people, it doesn't matter at all. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholders. I doubt most people will ever notice it, which is fine with me.

Once the weather clears up, I am going to clean, spray prime and spray paint the skip plate black, same way PhilD did it. That's about it. Don't want to over do it. The black grill is basically the only aftermarket item I got. I sort of like quiet stealth low key approach.

DRTYFN 12-14-2003 04:15 AM

Much better!! Black grill good
Chrome bad.

KenP 12-14-2003 05:14 AM

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Hey, step off DTYFN. I have polished stainless.

Black Lingenfelter Lux

Dedo-man 12-14-2003 03:02 PM

Mac,
Very nice job on the grill... Have you thought about the Rims yet? I wonder if they make a Black Chrome for the rims yet? that would set it off. Im thinking about doing the same thing*

MAC 12-14-2003 04:26 PM

I sort of like things happen naturally in a smooth fashion without streching it out of the way. When it comes it comes, when things happen it happen. Few months or a year ago, one needed to find a local shop to sand and repaint the grill, and there was no clear photos. To me, that was "streching" it to get it done.

In this case, 1/ It is a Hummer factory part.
2/ Price $368 is reasonable, S&H included. (GM parts direct $268+$35).
3/ I've seen several good photos, confirmed good service and result.
4/ I emailed HummerParts.com, Scott answered all emails instantly.
5/ I ordered and it arrived in 2 days.
6/ Installation was very easy and cheap($10).

That's the way things should work. A round peg into a round hole. In most things, I generally wait or back off if some of the elements are not working out smoothly and I have some minor doubts.

It is a matter of time, 6 months, 1 year or 2, some black rims will come my way at the right price, then I may or may not make the jump. Maybe one day a guy will say to me: "Hey, I can paint those rims black for you for $100." I'll say "OK." Anyone has good black rims photos? Drtyfn, don't you have black rims? seen them before but can't find pic. I am not so sure how black I want to get.

If this forum's store has it, it would have been my first choice to buy it here.

DRTYFN 12-14-2003 05:21 PM

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Here's a pic for you to stare at.

DRTYFN 12-14-2003 05:23 PM

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An old pic of a great rig. Notice the beautiful color of the vehicle. I very rarely use tire dressing. I've also taken off my H2 emblems so that someone else won't try to help me with them. I have a friend that had someone pry his off with a screwdriver.

DennisAJC 12-14-2003 06:06 PM

This thread diffinitely motivates H2 owners to spend more for that personalized look.

Mac, very cool. The blackened roof bars are a first. Are you thinking about the mags yet?

I think going the opposite of bling bling might catch on.

DRTY, dems old pictures(Still cool)! Show us your new ones.

MAC 12-14-2003 06:23 PM

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Dennis, what are mags? mags are rims? I like the factory rim look.
My roof bars came all black.
Tell you the truth, I ordered a Lux H2 at first, 2-3 months wait. Dealer told me they are making one that day Adv. black, too bad it is all black, I siad, NO No that's just perfect, I'll take that. Added leather, cut the wait to 1 month. See how everything turned out just right without extra effort?

Drtyfn, Pewter is always beautiful. Them black rims are excellent. Give me your address, I'll find someone to come up and jack it up and take them, there must be some kids willing to work for a couple hundred dollars.

IMHO, them black rims do not fit your beautiful pewter Hummer, stock silver is just right for pewter. Tell you what, I am always willing to help out a friend in need, why not take a vacation in SF or go offroad with someone around here, stop by my place before you go offroad, we'll make the trade in 1 hour. That'll rectify your problem.

There's a black rim photo:

Frank Hewitt 12-14-2003 07:47 PM

The black grill is fine. Kind of reminds me of the trans-am in knight-rider. I don't have a big issue with some chrome, nor am I hell-bent on removing it. I must say though, Mac, that if you only bought your wrap-around brush guard for protection, I just wondered if you mean protection from really really tall shopping carts or old ladies in the cross-walks? Perhaps you could use the off-road lights to see the shopping carts and little old ladies in the cross-walks just prior to using your brush-guard on them?!

gasman

FrgMstr 12-14-2003 08:11 PM

Mine.


Black door handles and Dynamat install next week.

Will be joining the black powdercoated wheel club here in a few weeks as well. I bought an extra set of original rims on Ebay for $150 last week...

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Patriot 12-14-2003 08:35 PM

Damn FrgMstr...you look VERY young

MAC 12-14-2003 10:35 PM

Excellent. I was surprised the grill has only 4 screws, which made the job easy. The lower center plastic cover took a while to figure it out, I was "thinking" too much, it was a simple pull from one corner to the others. My only roadblock was the 4 big screws holding the brush guard. Surprised I never had the need to remove any big screws in my life prior to yesterday.

I like it very much. It looked a lot better when I parked it on the street, as I look at it in my garage, I don't know why I was so excited about it yesterday.

Cute boy, nice outfit & good taste in vehicle.

buddy 12-14-2003 10:48 PM

Mac,

You did good, black looks much better than the chrome. Now, I'm back to wishing I'd choosen black instead of yellow. Next vehicle will be black.Maybe an SUT

DennisAJC 12-14-2003 10:49 PM

My son saw FrgMstr's Pic on my screen.

He yelled' "SPIDERMAN!!!!....Took me a few seconds to figure it out.

FrgMstr 12-14-2003 11:02 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DennisAJC:
My son saw FrgMstr's Pic on my screen.

He yelled' "SPIDERMAN!!!!....Took me a few seconds to figure it out.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That goes on quite a bit around my house as well.

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Black 2003 H2 - Just like most of yours, just possibly with less crap bolted on.

My job: http://www.HardOCP.com

Zing 12-15-2003 12:27 AM

Nice job MAC and thanks for the pics. I'm thinking of doing the same. 2 questions. 1) Is "Hummer" in gray letters against the black, or is that just the lighting where I can see them easy. 2) did you see the guys take off your grill, where the screws and are they easy to access?

Kevin B 12-15-2003 12:52 AM

DRTY did you rattle can those??

Dedo-man 12-15-2003 01:07 AM

DRTYFN,
Actually, I like the Black rims quite a bit!!! How did you work that out?
I Have Pewter also and am thinking about going black...have a few chrome pieces still (which came with the Lux. package), but I still think a shine "Black Chrome" would do very well with matching Black Chrome accessories.
And Mac, I read your post about the whole let things happen when they happen deal.... makes sence, there is actually alot of logic behind that mind set! makes things much easier in life....

argonaut 12-15-2003 02:19 AM

I like the black rim look, especially with the 37" MTRs. It would look silly on my orange one though. I would be living in halloween all year long... DRTY, I assume your buddy was in P-town. Where did it happen? I will want to avoid that area with the H@...

FrgMstr 12-15-2003 02:45 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Zazing:
Nice job MAC and thanks for the pics. I'm thinking of doing the same. 2 questions. 1) Is "Hummer" in gray letters against the black, or is that just the lighting where I can see them easy. 2) did you see the guys take off your grill, where the screws and are they easy to access?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> There are two screws on each end and two clips in the middle. If you own the right tool to do it, I think you will find the job an easy on.

1. Yes, the letters are the same color that they are on the original grill.

2. Yes, I did my own. If you don't have a grill guard, it is simply the matter of a four nuts to remove and a couple of spring clips that you just pull to disengage. Could not get much simpler... Here is my thread in the other forum that shows the grill off. You also have to pull loose the lower grill cover that is held in place with simple spring clips as well.

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My job: http://www.HardOCP.com

FrgMstr 12-15-2003 02:52 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Patriot:
Damn FrgMstr...you look VERY young <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Dude, you ought to see how hard it is for me to buy beer.

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Black 2003 H2 - Just like most of yours, just possibly with less crap bolted on.

My job: http://www.HardOCP.com

H2 Daddy 12-15-2003 03:10 AM

Mac, tell your gardener the area around your tree needs a little mulch. How come you couldn't take out the four "big screws" holding on your brush guard? Did your pliers keep slipping off the bolts?

MAC 12-15-2003 03:13 AM

I did the whole thing, except I went to the gas station to have the guy removed and installed the 4 big screws holding the brush guard with air tool. The grill itself was only 4 tiny screws on the 2 far ends, done in seconds, when you open the hood you'll see those 4 small screws. It was easier with 4 hands, I held the guard while he removed or installed the big screws.

I am thinking about going back there to remove the guard for a few weeks. Try out the clean look without brush guard.

There was some limitation of turning space issue when using plier, I think another tool which fits onto the screw head, then you turn the handle will work, similar to the tool you use to remove tire screws(not the right name), whatever this tool is called.

H2 Daddy 12-15-2003 03:42 AM

What about the mulch issue? Just kidding Mac. I took my grill guard off for a month just to have a different look. Ask your wife to buy you a small socket set from Sears for X-mas. You then can remove bolts easly.


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