JK vs H3
 

I am looking at the new Jeep Wrangler JK and am leaning toward it from what I have read on it. It seems much more capable than the H3 in stock form. I really like it because it is a solid axle. I am not much on the IFS. Has anyone had any issues with their H3 IFS? Why should I choose an H3 over the JK. By the way I would wait for the Rubicon edition.

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If you're a solid front axle man, there's really no debate. Although I think plently of people here would take issue with the idea that the H3 is "less capable".

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H3 is the most for the money! Jeep still rides hard and does not have the nice interior. You do the pepsi challege bro and tell us what you think.

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You must have us confused with Hummer salesmen. :confused: Get the Jeep, I think it will fit your alternative lifestyle better. :giggling:

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oh sorry I was on the air. yea get the heep it will work out for you better:shhh:

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Have you ridden in the new JK?

Man, I don't know. For a solid axle front end it rides pretty damn good. The new Wrangler is leaps and bounds ahead of the TJ. I can see where some people will have hard time deciding.

A lot of loyal Jeepers hate the new JKs because they think they are too much like H3s. But you can take the top off so it's going to appeal to a lot of people who would want a true 4 door convertible that's affordable (unlike the open top H1)

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YES!!!

but the jeep

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naw I am a Hummer owner and took a blood oath back during my sales days (hazing I can't discuss) but I am sure the jeep has caught up nicely.

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Or maybe I am starting to belive my own sheet?

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You came to a hummer forum to see if you should get a Jeep :confused:

Here are some differences I see between the 2007 JK vs the 2007 H3. I own an H3 but haven't driven a JK, so this is all from the specs. I didn't list the things they have in common and probably missed some.

Off road

JK Ultd Rubicon ... solid front axle, electronic sway bar disconnect, locking front diff, longer wheelbase (may help climbing), more ground clearance, better approach & departure angles, removable doors, removable top

H3 Adventure ... bigger stock tires, better breakover angle, smaller turn diameter, wider track, more low end torque

On road

JK ... lighter weight, longer wheelbase (high speed stability?)

H3 ... IFS, more HP throughout RPM range, more low-end torque, (slightly) more high end torque, low road noise, longer range (same mpg, bigger gas tank)

Utility

JK ... more interior volume (partly impeded by roll cage)

H3 ... more payload, more towing capacity

Luxury

JK ... (don't know)

H3 ... power sunroof, many interior choices - including leather, monsoon sound system, lots of chrome options

Safety

JK ... roll cage

H3 ... rear side curtain airbags

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shioooooot, my TJ will walk the H3, the JK will really walk it...:fdance:

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Where do we find these idiots?:twak:

Let's move on to H3 business.

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It seems like your mind is made up. Go buy the jeep, im sure you'll like it!

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:lame:
Why are you bunch of "sally's" so fuking butt hurt over someone asking this question? He wasn't talking down on the H3.......just asking a simple question.........

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Perhaps because he is a troll and has already expressed his hatred of the H3? Why some people are taking this thread serious is beyond me.

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I was taking it serious because I was interested in what people had to say, and thought it was a legit question....

WISSHA HADDA H3 is the ONLY person other then PARAGON to give any informative information........most the rest of you whinned like little bitches...:violin:

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Well you thought wrong, error on your part.

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:fdance: :grouphug:

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Jeep questions on a Hummer forum? Why? Seems a little jaded.
My own .02 points to Hummer H3.

Why?
Because I have one, of course. :OWNED:

If I wanted a Jeep, I would have bought one, and probably, would have joined a Jeep forum. Or not, maybe I'd join a Saab forum, and ask questions about Opel.:giggling:

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Lex........STFU.........I'll join whatever forum I want that has to do with the hobby I am interested in. Why? you ask? Because I've met tons of people from this board that dont have a big rubber stick up their ass and love to get and and wheel, not bitch about Jeep vs. Hummer.....

Sooooooooo, :fdance:

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I'm sorry, but I don't know what this means?:confused:

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Dennis might be a troll, but you can't argue with pics, specs and facts. The stock JK and H3 are both awesome offroad, with different strengths and weaknesses.

When I was comparing midsize 4 door SUVs, the JK wasn't around to test drive next to the others, but I read everything available - specs, reviews, previews, speculation, commentaries and forums to decide if it was worth waiting for. I sifted through tons of hype and marketing on all the brands to find real specs and factual info.

Ultimately I realized that the H3 was badass enough to do everything I want to do offroad (Moab, Rubicon, etc) ... and do it with more style, comfort and utility than any other midsize SUV. And it has the same fuel economy and the same price range as the others (with similar equipment).

Sure it could be improved, but my H3 works for me :cool:

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yo mooncrickey

you seem like the one whining and crying to me

waa, waaa

:giggling:

you may want to consider a Jeep forum -

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Please attenuate your potty-mouth. Thanks

(Attenuate: To weaken, dilute, thin, reduce, weaken, diminish; Or, if you prefer, to close one's pie hole)

:shhh:

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cool, i'm not the last one to dare suggest something negative about the hummer brand.. i too just saw the spped test drive of the wrangler unlimited, and it does look like a fun vehicle, the lift kits are very affordable, and you could stick 40"s under it, and walk all over where any H3 could go offroad. the draw backs to me about the jeep, is it's just plain for teenagers... any no working stiff wants to be the envy of all the 17 year old boys in his neighborhood.. the H3 looks way cooler, and is a little more mature of a ride in my opinion... i'm just trying to sell my FX35 so i can get into a '07 H3..and then go crazy with aftermarket stuff... i'm pretty impulsive so i will probably buy the H3 before i sell my FX.

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I'm a GM employee, so if I say purchase the Hummer it might just sound a bit prejudiced. However, my neighbor works for Chrysler; Jeep engineering to be specific, and he brought one of those 4-doors home a few months ago, and I liked it.
Personally, I have always like the looks of the Wrangler, but I also like the looks of all the Hummers from the 1, 2 and 3 (can I say the 4 too?).
Even though I'm a GM employee, I have had many Wranglers and the one thing I miss most about the Wrangler is the removable top (that could be solved for this GM employee in the future:shhh: ).
I do not like Wrangler interiors, they look cheaper than any other vehicle out there (well, maybe not the FJ), but I lived with my Wrangler interiors for quite a few years and if I was not a GM employee I could live with one again.
As for the ride, in this area of MI, where roads are similar to those found in an active war zone, the Wrangler rode a lot rougher than my H3. Off-road, both stock, I would say they are pretty damn close, but let's face it, the Wrangler is a lot less expensive to mod.
Comparing prices, I would say the Rubicon 4-door is pretty impressive, but I sure do love my Hummer, and the Hummer's interior is a thousand times better than the Jeep. The Jeep seats to my arse are terrible, and always have been, and they don't seem to have improved their butt feel.
Last year, to Utah and back almost destroyed my buns. This year in the H3, my buns felt great after the trip.
I also prefer the way the H3 feels on the highway and when off-roading. I like the full-time 4x4 system better than the part time system and I do believe in the ABS and stabilitrack. In other words, I do feel safer in the H3.
Security in the H3 is better, since security with a cloth top is non-existent. My Wranglers had Tuffy Consoles and rear storage boxes for securing items such as camera equipment, etc.
If I were not a GM employee, it would be a rough choice to make.
One thing that has me pi**ed off and is pi**sing off many other Jeep people is that fact you can get a TWO WHEEL DRIVE WRANGLER. WTF is this, if Hummer ever decided to make a two wheel drive vehicle, I would go purchase one of those fugly looking FJs and drive it into the GM tech center and park it right in front of the Vehicle Engineering Center.
Sam, my neighbor never told me about this two wheel drive BS; just found out the other day. Wait till I see him....:rant:

(Let me also mention that Sam, my neighbor from Jeep, likes the H3 and wishes Jeep would start using some upgraded interiors. He is impressed with the H3, and has mentioned that if he was not a Jeep employee, he would seriously consider the H3.)

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When you buy that Jeep do not ask a Hummer to pull you out.


:jump:

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I went to Hall Hummer and swiped one of their salesmen and took him to Hall Jeep to sneak a peak at the JK.

I like the exterior and the capabilities and with a small, inexpensive lift and 35's or 37's it will be a true monster on the trail. No question about it and it can't be denied.

But good gawd, the interior is a POS.

As soon as they get a Rubi in I'm going to test drive one and see how it rides. Not sure about those seats.

Lastly, the Rubi has a great price point. See this post:
http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/s...9&postcount=74

H3, is more comfortable all around, that's for sure, and very capable in it's own right. Many of you have proved that.

I can see where people are going to have a tough time deciding.

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That is just a jacka$$ thing to say!

Wouldn't you want to take pics of that?:OWNED:

Anyhow, i too like the looks of the exterior and after seeing one lifted, I think it looks bada$$. Time will tell wich vehicle will be more reliable, but off road, i think they will be very comparable stock.

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the Jeep guys are already all over the idea... although with a little twist

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That Jeep was chopped in that pic.

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Too bad that looks like a very poor photoshop job :fdance:

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Where's the question between the two considering Wanna's thread.... sheesh.

If you want a shoebox with wheels - go for the JK.

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of course, it's just a joke.. and anyone who wants a decent comfortable interior, and way better than average off road ability, will go with the H3. the best off road ability in the Jk comes with cheap seats and more rattles and wind noise than you can shake a stick at...

i think these threads are funny.. hope no one is taking it seriously.. jeesh

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You definitely hit the nail on the head about the interior part but not necessarily on the best off road ability part. Sure you can go out and mod a JK cheaper but aren't we talking stock versus stock straight out of the box. If you want a highly modified trail rig then an older Jeep would be the way to go but from my understanding that is not what we are talking about here.

BTW, I for one do not take this too seriously so GFY ;)

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i wonder how nice the new LR@ from landrover will be? looks like the range rover body style, and they always have great interiors.. but are pricey, and very costly to modify,not alot of aftermarket support either..

p.s., i'm married, so i always have to F my self.. it's the only way after 13 years..!

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H2PAC, ATTENUATE THIS::fdance: ........

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An OLDER MODIFIED JEEP:twak: WILL NOT KEEP UP WITH AN UPDATED TJ and will NOT be as capable as a JK............The TJ is leaps and bounds ahead of the CJ or YJ or any of the older style, leaf sprung jeeps:rolleyes:

Now that is modifed or stock........

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Who are you:fdance: