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Okay, while I am home alone now (trying to keep busy) and worried because a neighbor was car jacked (he choked her, duct taped her and eventually let her go but took her address and compared it to her license before doing so- he could come back or something) I am a little worried.

I have mace but Paragon suggested to me awhile back that I take a safety course. Learning the basic handling cleaning and operation of one. I forgot that I was going to look into it until now.:giggling:

They scare me frankly and I have never touched one. But we have a few and I just want to know that I can use one if needed and maintain one so it will fire. Maybe get into target shooting for practice.

So, to the point :D, I have been looking on-line and there are several available- thru the NRA and local stores but some of them include batton training and stuff. Anyone take a course like I described and remember what it was called? Could I use one of Ken's or do they provide one or do I have to get one?

Thanks in advance.

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It's like a vibrator, use your own.

General personal defense courses along with a handgun course could do nothing but help.

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Oh crap, where did I put my bullet proof vest. :confused:

BTW - you just told the world you are home alone now and don't know how to defend yourself. I think not disclosing that sort of information is lesson 1. :giggling: :shhh: :popcorn:

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Call your local gun dealers and talk to them about what you are interested in learning; they can point you in the right direction. Another option is to call any local gun ranges, especially indoor ones, as many of them either teach handgun safety or know someone that does.

As for which gun to use, you will want to either use one of Ken's or get one of your own so that you can become comfortable handling and shooting it. Make sure before you ever pull it out that you are mentally capable of shooting to kill. A US Marshal once told me that it's better to face 12 in a box than 6 around your's!

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:jump:

Did I mention Kenny is in the shower?;):D


I guess I will call around or go check out the local shops sometime soon. I don't think I could kill, I never thought about it- well I guess I would if I felt threatened- I guess they would go over that in the course.

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Get your blackbelt!:dancingbanana:

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Get A Smith & Wesson Featherlight 38spl with lasergrip. PLUS the course...will try to post the tactical course (Name) later....Smith w/laser=No Brainer! :shhh: ;)

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I dunno about actually getting one, it is really not me. Unless of course they have a Gucci or Prada design or a pink one. Maybe a cute holster.;) I would just feel totally out of character buying one.


I took Krav Maga classes and believe me, I'm not afraid to bite, kick or rip a ball. :giggling:


But I am little and thought that I would feel more comfortable if I knew how to use one. Or at least have him at hello.

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Kel-Tec makes pink ones...no excuse now. Their 380 is a nice size if you plan on carrying it concealed.;)

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Here you go, a Gucci Glock.

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Is that why Moonie is so feisty?:giggling:

Also, was there a description of the assailant? I'm sure the Elcovans would appreciate it so they could know who to be on the look out for. :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:

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This one is for the homies.:jump:

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Now that's some funny $hit! :D :jump:

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x2:perfect10s:

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CP,
Every range in my area always has an instructor. Now, generally they do not work at the range, but instead are some old timer that is retired and has been certified to instruct people on all the do's and dont's of shooting. I would advise you go this route to begin. The instructors will tell you everything you need to know on how to begin shooting, starting with the most rudimentary basics and going on up from there. Also, there are a number of guns at their disposal for you to try. Guns are all different CP, the caliber will affect the amount of recoil quite a bit. The angle of the "handle" aka grip will affect how the recoil impacts your body alot. This can make or break weather or not you like the gun, its all about how it shoots. Different strokes for different folks. If you want to start I say go for it. Its a great sport and can be alot of fun, but get someone qualified to instruct you and be safe. Oh and if the robber comes for you do me a favor: put a cap in that boyz ass. :D

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If you don't want a gun you can always get a dog. A Belgian Malinois or Tervuren make great guard dogs (cops use them), love to play and are always ready to do something. They weight in at 50 lbs.
Mine is a mix but she scares everyone who comes to the door.
Downside; If you have kids get a puppy. Mine is a rescue and you can tell the child she was with was never taught how to treat a dog. Now I have to watch her like a hawk around little kids.

If you get a gun, I'd suggest a semi-automatic. When you're panicy and someone's breaking in the front door, it's a lot easier to insert a clip than put bullets in a revolver.

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spaz 12-guage...riot gun. make no mistakes leave no evidence.

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Black male. He was pretending to work on his car in a near-by mall parking lot and came up from behind her and choked her and threw her in her back seat and duct taped her until letting her go when he was done running errands or whatever. The scary thing was getting her address. It was never on the news so I assume there was a threat. She is a really nice older woman (50's probably), from what I understand she was bruised pretty badly. I thought someone was murdered with all the forensic units that were here. He had gloves on.

I was kidding about the designer guns. But I will be looking at my options and let you all know what I do. I would never carry and have to be safe with children in the house. Ken said he will help me figure stuff out as I don't even know what a magazine is etc. I may end up getting one as he said most of his are automatic and powerful and the only revolver he has is 357 or something and he said it will prolly be too powerful for a beginner.

I have said it before, I scare myself waiting for the toast to pop up out of the toaster and opening those pilsbury dough cans that pop open. So it should be interesting.:o :D Who knows, I could have an inner GI Jane or Gangsta bish.:giggling:

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Pump action shot guns are the best for home defense. With pistols, even with alot of training, there is a chance you could miss. I have only had two breakins into my house. Once I was not home. The other time we were sleeping. We heard them screwing with the slider. So I grabbed my shotgun and came out of the bedroom. I racked the son of a bitch once and the fvckers heard it and ran away. To bad I wanted to shoot them. The reason I say go with pump action is everyone knows that sound and if they hear that they will not hang around.

For everyday personal defense while walking around on the street, the best is tasers or pepper spray and self defense courses. If you go with pepper spray go with the kind with dye in them. Not only does it blind the person it will dye their skin so if they get away they will be easy to find.

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Ya'll live in the south, so call the local Sheriff department and ask them if they run a self-defense or handgun safety course. When I lived in TN, I helped teach one with the local Sheriffs, and we had people from all walks of life come into the class. There were those that hated handguns, but someone in the house had them, so they were smart enough to know they should at least learn the basics, we had those who grew up with them, but smart enough to know you can always learn something new, etc.

If that is not a possibility, contact the NRA, their instructors are usually pretty damn good and they offer all sorts of training.

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They've got a "dog".:OWNED:


This is a conspiracy.:jump::jump:

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Excellent advise for a beginner. However, I would not use one of Kens, I would go find one that fits your palm, like a nice pair of jeans. If you want it near you or on you, you'll have to be extra careful with kids around, but if your worried about that freak jacking your car while you're not looking, you better get really comfortable with the idea of having a loaded weapon around. LEARN AND PRACTICE TILL ITS SECOND NATURE! Victorias Secret was selling a bra that had a spot for a gun, but I'm not sure if they still have them.

Shotguns are good, but almost never in a handy spot if you need it, and they're kind of difficult to conceal, so only work good in home defense. IMO.

I've been trying to figure out a good way to conceal a gun in the entry way of our home, without anyone knowing it's there. I hate it when people come to the door and I have to open it without having a backup. Especially out in the country. Maybe I'll just give the 6 year old the scatter gun and have him stand behind me. ;)

Good luck, and be careful, friend!

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is that you holding a 12 gauge?

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yep that's me standing next to the red mist that was the arsehole that broke into my house

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I think the world of that company.:jump:

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You don't have a peephole in the door to see who is there? If not, get one.
As for the gun and a young child; not sure what I would have done. When my kids were that young, I wore a handgun 24/7, unless in bed, so the gun was always at my side, or in a bedside safe (part of the alarm clock), and my kids were taught gun safety starting around 7 years of age.

I would also suggest getting a handgun carry license, so that for those times you need to carry off the property, you are legal.

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I've had guns all my life. Literally since I was a kid.

I think she'd be fine with a S&W .38 with the laser sight. Heck, she probably doesn't need the sights anyway. Just point and shoot.

For the record, the carjacking DID NOT take place in our 'hood. It happened at a mall parking lot. Forensics was at their house for awhile going over the car.

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First of all - you should carry, you should get your own gun, and you should practice a TON.


But most important --- Think of the great conversions you could have at your tea parties.

"Hey, did you see those new Gucci handbags that just came out?".

"No, but check out this Glock. I could cap you Mo Fos right now........"

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If you have to pull and shoot to save your life, you don't have time to obtain a sight through handgun sights anyway. You have to learn to shoot at chest level for those times, sights are not practical.

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see the front post, be the front post, become one with the front post

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You know I'm not feisty:rant: ........But I agree that Krav Maga Classes are the way to go. You learn a lot of valuable "street tactics" as they would call them in defending yourself with the maximum force available. Krav Maga is a downright lethal self defense martial art.

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Oh, and your local Wal Mart will have a list of places near you that have "Firearms Safety Courses" I think...At least ours did...

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Not talking about a hostage situation, don't believe most civilians would be put into that situation and if they were, they would be unequipped to handle it correctly. Hostage situations do require a sight picture and one hell of a steady hand.;)
As for innocents behind the intended target, that has to be taken into consideration, but shooting at the chest of a grown man, ten feet away, at chest level is not a hard thing to do. (Been there and done that.)

What I was implying is that under most situations a civilian will encounter, the time to obtain a perfect sight picture is not in the equation.

As for practice, I could not agree more. It is extremely important since muscle memory will be what makes you hit the target. However, I do tell people don't go out to a range, sight in on a target, fire off 50 rounds and go home. If that is all a person does, when the sh*t hits the fan, that is what they will do and it may not be fast enough. Fire off 50 rounds at chest level, and when you get good enough, and it is safe enough, draw and fire at chest level; fire while running back against the strong arm side of the shooter, learn to shoot from cover. Heck, take the time to walk through your own house and find areas it would be safe to shoot from such as a wall with a refridge on the other side, or a stove, something stronger than plaster. Surprising how many people think a bullet will be stopped by a plaster wall, as it is on TV.

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Phil, I've seen some of your pics. Maybe we should just schedule a trip to Corpus for a few days.:jump: