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The guy died trying to save his family. He did what most loving dads would do. Sounds cold, but makes me feel thankful owning a Hummer with all the safety gear possible..




James Kim’s body found in canyon; he had left stranded family to seek help




http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16089354/

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That was truly sad. I was just glad the mom and daughters made it out safely. As a husband and dad I know if things had to go a certain way i would hope this would be the outcome. If only he had waited another day he could have been found with them.

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Poor family. I guess at some point I'd have gone back to the family, worried about them. But, really, who knows?

I feel for them.:(

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It is very tragic, but was totally avoidable. Being an uber computer nerd, he should have scouted out his route better than using crappy Google, Yahoo or Mapquest.. AND he should have read the sign at the beginning of the little "road" that he turned onto that clearly warned them that it was a road that was NOT maintained during the winter. There's gas stations on I-5 that they could have asked for directions, too.
Another thing he did wrong - NEVER deviate off of the roads into the forest. He left the road and went into terrain that seriously hampered the rescue effort. I bet they flew over him a couple of times while he was in the trees or down one of the canyons.

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Then he stopped and spent the night in the car.

I live in the deep south where the change of weather means it might rain or get foggy. But damn, I at least realize that you don't go camping in a washout or stop and sleep in my car on a mountain road this time of year.

Tragic, but was hugely avoidable.

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Dumbass. (brutal, I know)

Oregon search and rescue reportedly flew near the car once or twice, and after a week of NO results, his family hired more search helicopters and they located the girls within 2 days. Unfortunately, they hit the worst weather of the year so far. Recent photos of the car show the snow melted around it. Too bad they burned their tires instead of a Big FAT tree!

I won't even begin to speculate how they got up there or why he didn't simply walk back the way he drove in. I guess he had a whole week to sit there and talk himself into walking into the bottom of that canyon to die.

Sad, yes. But totally stupid.

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They just said on the local news that the dumbass didn't leave his car on the "main road", but pulled it off onto a spur road which I'm sure was partially obstructed by trees. He was on a mission to win that Darwin Award. Even in my H2, with siped tires, winch and all kinds of recovery gear, I wouldn't try to go over those roads in the winter.

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It's all over the media down here - TV, newspapers, everywhere.

And I agree with Drty and Rocks. Everyone down here is making him out to be some big hero. But they seem to keep skipping over the part where he almost got his whole family killed, not just himself. :rolleyes:

I'm not totally heartless, I do feel bad for his family and friends. But maybe the media should stop patting this guy on the back and instead use it as an opportunity to educate people on how not to get stuck on a snowed over road, how to carry proper provisions when travelling in that kind of weather, etc., etc. But I guess then they might not have anyone to report about next winter.

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I guess I'm glad I don't bring my wife and boys to Moab.

I wouldn't want to be criticized like the above posts if something happens.

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What kind of car were they driving anyway? Poor guy, he basically put himself (and family) in danger almost before he even began by not taking precautions. You gotta be ready for anything. E-blankets, some food, water, flares, etc. are not items to be left behind if you're venturing out and about with the possibility of a storm, especially in the wild areas of North America.

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I'll bet most of you don't carry everything you need for survival on what would be routine trips either. Sure, you have your winter survival kit maybe, but what if it's only for 5 days and you are stuck for 10 days? After you are dead, we will all say you should've had a better kit, moron! What if an animal attacks you? Or a tree falls on you? Should've brought along a surgeon and a chainsaw. Never know, you might end up in the ocean, hope you packed a boat or sea plane! Don't forget to pack a snowmobile when you go skiing as well. Just some tips.

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Anyone who brings their kids to Moab are the real idiots.

This guy didn't choose to endanger his family. Were as some of the moab people will be choosing to endanger theirs. Which one is more idiotic?

Let's see now.........H2Rocks takes his family to Moab, CHOOSES to put his family in harms way, rolls the hummer injuring or possibly killing one of his kids or himself.

THAT WOULD BE IDIOTIC. :violin:

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I don't know why you're comparing Moab to S.Oregon but whatever.

H2Rocks is a real Man. What a stud.:jump:

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Have you even been to Moab? Post pictures or STFU.:twak:

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Gawd! Are you guys brutal enough?;)

I am so sad, I was glued to Fox news that afternoon- just when they were saying how amazing it was that he was surviving and they were going to drop survival bags around the area. Then they came on and said they found a body. I was devastated.:(

I also thought he looked a little like H2Finally and it just put things into perspective. I have been thinkng about that family often.

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Oh ya you're a girl. Let me replace idiot from the last line of my last statment with expected.

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:jump: :beerchug: :jump:

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being criticized on the internet would be the least of your concerns

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Let's not forget he was also dehydrated and weak from not eating, they only fed the kids and the wife was breastfeeding both of the children. He obviously wasn't in the right frame of mind- but his heart was.

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I at least try to carry a brain, that's my best survival tool.

In Aubs' case it would be like this gun

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I was praying for a happy ending. I was really depressed when the news came out that he died. Probably to his last ounce of energy.

Could happen to anyone of us. All you can do is be prepared as best you can.

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Bah! He was just trying to save himself and turnabout is fairplay:giggling: j/k


That has nothing to do with the fact that he put himself in that position to begin with.

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BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!:jump:

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WTF?????

Depressed????

What about the soldier in the field that IS doing the right things and didn't put himself in the position to be in harms way except to serve for his country? What about the person that was just stabbed by some idiot because he looked at his wheels the wrong way?

Geezus!!! The guy put himself and his family in that position and paid the ultimate price, he made boneheaded decisions and all you are going on is this "hero" persona that the media has painted.

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Sure... maybe we should start a list detailing what to do to avoid future problems if someone gets bit by a snake or other creature.

You know if you guys with your expert analysis on what one should have done not to die would just speak up before, no one would die except maybe due to old age. Don't you people feel the responsibility to speak up and save some lives? I'm sure that guy would've appreciated a call from one of you telling him not to go down that road.

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First thing you don't do is continue drinking and ignore the bite.... mkay

Secondly, to not die, don't do stupid stuff. Sh!t will happen enough by itself, no need to help it along.

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:crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying:

I'm not taking my family to Moab cuz this Guy died in the Southern Oregon wilderness.
???:confused: :lame:


Anyone who "brings" their kids to Moab? Please, wear a sign on your back that says "kick me" so I know who you are.:fdance:

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I don't see what the big deal is about having sympathy for a tragic situation or why some people are so hard up about making a dead man look stupid.

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Start some threads about people dying in car accidents because they weren't smart enough to take a different road that day. Or maybe someone who was such an idiot that they had a medical problem that wasn't found until too late and died. We will discuss those then if you want.

Just remember, there is a chance I will out live all you! You guys are going to feel pretty silly after I post what you should've done not to die. :giggling:

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The dead man made himself look stupid.

Sympathy has nothing to do with seeing something for what it really is as compared to simply taking what the media feeds.

Why isn't the wife the hero.... hell, she's the one that saved the kid's lives and wasn't driving.

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The guy made the wrong turn. I'm sure we've all made that mistake before.:confused:


Given the situation they were in, he did what he thought was best, to save his family.

Too bad he didn't carry a crystal ball like some here.:clapping:

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I dunno, a family lost in the woods and the father trekking out after a week spent in the car- the family being saved from a cell phone ping and then finding the poor man 5 days later dead from trying to save them or whatever is a pretty amazing story no matter how you tell it.

Post up some of those other stories that happened recently and I'm sure the response would be the same.

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did you lose your concentration? What happened to the rest of the story.

He made a wrong turn, then decided to turn down a side road and drove down it for 15 miles and pulled over to sleep for the night. While they were asleep they got snowed in.

Don't make it out like he just made a wrong turn.

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She is a hero- and a grieving widow.

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Hopefully, if I die from something like this, You would learn something and not repeat the same mistakes.(plural) And I really hope you never let anyone from San Francisco drive you around in the snow in unfamiliar territory. :beerchug:

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I remember spotting H2Finally up Tip Over Challenge. He had wifey and kids riding with him. I'm just wondering if the same compassion would have been given if Tip Over lived up to it's name?


Or would they blame the spotter?:giggling: