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I had to go to a supermarket to pickup a few things tonight.
I was at a traffic light making a left turn. All I saw was a police car w/ his flashing lights on parked along side of the street. I was thinking he may have pulled someone over.
As I was trying to turn left, this stupid cop puts down the orange corn to block the road. He gave me crap. I wasn't even going fast either. If he was trying to block the road, he should have parked his car perpendicular to the road and should have some flares going. No, he had none of that. No offense to some of the good police officers out there but this guy was a total moron.
On the way back, he finally had some clues and had his car parked perpendicular to the road and had his flare going. I just had to yell at him.
Sorry, but just venting my frustrations..

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California ran an e-mail forum with the topic being "Community Policing." One of the civilian e-mail participants posed the following question: "I would like to know how it is possible for police officers to continually harass people and get away with it?"

From the "other side" (the law enforcement side) a cool cop with a sense of humor replied: "It is not easy. In California we average one cop for every 2000 people. About 60% are on duty at any moment and available for harassing people. So, one cop is responsible for harassing about 10,000 residents. When you toss in the commercial, business, and tourist locations that attract people from other area, sometimes you have a situation where a single cop is responsible for harassing 20,000 or more people a day. A ten-hour shift runs 36,000 seconds. This gives a cop one-second to harass a person, and three-fourths of a second to eat a donut AND then find a new person to harass. This is not an easy task. Most cops are not up to it day in and day out. It is just too tiring. What we do is utilize some tools to help us narrow down those, which we harass. They are as follows:

PHONE: People will call us up and point out things that cause us to focus on a person for special harassment. We have a special number set up just for that... 911.

"My neighbor is beating his wife" is a code phrase we use. Then we come out and give special harassment. Another popular one on a weeknight is, "The kids next door are having a party."

CARS: We have special cops assigned to harass people who drive. They like to harass the drivers of fast cars, cars blasting music, cars with expired registration and the like. It is lots of fun when you pick them out of traffic for nothing more obvious than running a red light. Sometimes you get to really heap the harassment on when you find they have drugs in the car, are drunk, or have a warrant.

RUNNERS: Some people take off running just at the sight of a police officer. Nothing is quite as satisfying as running after them like a beagle on the scent of a bunny. When you catch them you can harass them for hours.

CODES: When you can think of nothing else to do, there are books that give ideas for reasons to harass folks. They are called "Codes"; Penal, Vehicle, Health and Safety, Business and Professions... They all spell out all sorts of things for which you can really mess with people. After you read the code, you can just drive around for a while until you find someone violating one of these listed offenses and harass them. Just last week, I saw a guy smash a car window. Well, the code says that is not allowed. That meant I got permission to harass this guy.

It is a pretty cool system that we have set up, and it works pretty well. I seem to have a never-ending supply of folks to harass. And we get away with it. Why? Because the good citizens who pay the tab like that we keep the streets safe for them.

Next time you are in my town, give me a single finger wave. That is a signal that you wish for me to take a little closer look at you, and maybe I'll find a reason to harass YOU.

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LOL :clapping: :beerchug:

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0313H3,
that is relevant to my case, because???
I read that stuff long time ago and it is not funny at all.. :)

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Luke Skywalker,

From what you wrote, it sounds like he was just starting to set up whatever he was doing, when you first passed. The orange "corn" or flashing lights should have been a clue for you. You are probably the moron in his mind.

He deals with people like you everyday, probably doesn't post about it whining on the internet.

By the time you got back, you felt the need to yell at him for doing his job (probably scene protection or something having to do with others not becoming endangered). Of course you are a professional at this type of work and know exactly how he should have went about setting it up.

Trust me when I tell you that everybody thinks they are innocent always, and if they aren't, they lie about it. No matter how perfectly (text book) you set up a traffic control situation, some (Moron) will find a way to f*ck it up, guaranteed. They will then blame the cop - without fail.

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Everyone has a bad day, maybe the both of you were in the wrong in some way or another.
Last Saturday night I had some car fly up on my ass about midnight and was tail gating me for a long time. So like the dumbass I am, I decided to turn on the rear facing Piaa's... Bad idea! that ******* tailgater was a cop. He decided to turn on all his over head lights. At that time I think my balls went into hiding.

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You were justified in turning your lights on there, IMO! I had a cop come up on me on the interstate, as I was doing a little over 90... he had no lights on and nearly hit my bumper. I was thinking, oh ****... but he flashed his lights as if he wanted me to move into the semi truck in the next lane so he could pass. He was being such a dick for a couple minutes as I tried to get over. At least he didn't pull me over!

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Like someone suggested above, the cop was probably just starting to set up the means to correctly block off the lane (it looks like that was the case since you said he had flares set up and his vehicle positioned better the next time you passed by him). You think you can just snap your fingers and have your vehicle positioned correctly, cones set up, and flares burning?

In Florida we have a law that you must vacate the lane next to the cop who has pulled someone over. In other words, if a cop has someone pulled over, then you cannot drive in the lane closest to the cop. Do you have any idea how many cops die from being hit by passing vehicles because the f*ckin' moron drivers think it's okay to drive 65mph in the lane right next to the cop and end up hitting him?

Next time you get in that situation, how about slowing down, moving the f*ck over, going straight, and making a u-turn at the next median break?

By the way, I'm a deputy sheriff. I let people off with warnings all the time for speeding, running red lights, tailgating, etc. But I will write a "failure to move over" ticket in a heartbeat because idiots like you think that they can put the cops life in danger because they're in a hurry to buy milk and eggs. :fdance:

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H Duece 10 points! :beerchug: Cheers brother

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Got to back up the LEO's in this. Slow down and get the hell out of their way.

BTW, a buddy of mine that's a VA State Trooper calls the blue lights on his cruiser "Drunk Magnets", or something like that. Obviously why....

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X2

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This the exactly the kind of B.S. that gives cops a bad name.

Cops are not drafted or forced to do their job. They are paid professsionals, that's it. I get so sick of moronic cops that have this attitude that if you "rub them the wrong way" they are justified in bending the law to harass you.

No......I don't have anything against all cops. I have family members in law enforcement.

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Did I say I was speeding? Hell NO!.
I said I yelled at him.. I didn't give him the middle finger solute J

If this was during the day time, orange cone should be visible. But this was at night making orange cone less visible.
I would think flare should be the 1st thing he should set up in a dark area to make things obvious. Parking his car perpendicular to the road he is trying to block would make things obvious.
He had his car parked on the side quite a bit from where he was putting the orange cone.


Believe me, I don't want to be in there way. All I am saying is, he should have done things differently if he is a paid professional.

Professional? I don't think so.

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The initial setting up or tearing down of a road block or lane change is the most dangerous time for construction workers and would think for police officers. There is more confusion and higher percentage of accidents when the construction workers are setting up directional signs and putting out cones or taking them down then there is after theyre all set up. Please go slow around workers and law enforcement , I think most people would decide they werent in as much of a rush as they thought they were after they ran somebody over. I have seen it first hand , shoes flying one way and a body flying the other way. Drive safely around job sites please. doug

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From one ex cop..:iagree: :clapping:

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Watch out. You keep arguing like this with the wrong people your gona get BANNED>>>

RYD

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READ the fu*king thread you morons..
I've just talked to an ex-cop and he said that the police officers should use their best judgments when they block off the street.
IT WAS NIGHT TIME and he should have setup his flares and should have positioned his car 1st. correctly.

I see a lot of morons here who lack common sense.
What is more visible at night? Flare and a police car parked perpendicular to the road he is blocking? Or, orange cones and parking his car about 50 feet away from the road he was blocking parked parallel to the street?

Obviously, he figured out that the flares and parking his care perpendicular to the road he was blocking was more appropriate later..

This stupid cop was probably too lazy to set up the flare thinking who was going to drive on that road at 8PM.

Oh, by the way, we don?t have stupid rule like people in Florida. There must be a lot of stupid people in Florida who lack common sense.

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:popcorn: :crying:

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To me it seems that you were looking to be a fuktard and you proved it.

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Geez, go rub sum ointment on your mangina. Dew now.:D

I love Cops btw.:)

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Some of you guys assumed too much.
I never said I passed him when I saw the orange cone.
I had to turn around and take some other road to get to where I was going.

Did I break any law? No
Did I do something wrong? No.. maybe for yelling at him later that he should have set up the flares earlier..

Did he perform his job correctly first place? No
Was he a professional at his job? No
As a public servant, does he have to curse and yell at people because he screwed up? No

Why am I wasting my time arguing with some morons who don?t even know all the facts?
I learned my lesson here.. don?t argue with the fools.. they?ll make you a fool also..
There? I said it.. I am a fool for creating this thread? I should have just vented my frustration somewhere else..

My official topologies to the some of the fine police officers who perform their jobs.

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grow up

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I think you did good by venting here. Its part of what we do here in these threads, Yeah sometimes they get heated and sometimes you won't get a single reply. But I believe its all in good taste and there is really no harm done in saying what you think.
What I do like most about the people here on this site is that most are 100% behind our soldiers and police officers. So whenever a thread is going on about them, you are going to have a hot thread.
So cheers :beerchug: to you for standing up for what you believed in.
But please do me a favor, don't yell at the police, the job isn't as easy as one may think.

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No, it's not.

Flipping off a LEO is a sure sign something is up and gives reason for the LEO to check that person out further. What if it was some whack job that was banged out of his mind and had a hankering to do some killing and thought the Po-Po was was nothing but a joke.... so flip them off.

Open disrespect of authority for no apparent reason is a great way to get looked at closer. It's not a cop using his position to harass, it's using their training to identify a potential BG before he doesn't something rash.

If a person did something like that and then committed a crime, the same whiners here would be complaining that the LEO didn't do anything to stop the guy when he was obviously disturbed.

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JetEyeNite,

Even when officers are doing what they are supposed sh*t happens. Do not give the cops a hard time their job is hard enough and then having to worry about other idiots behind the wheel. This story is from August of this year and it was my uncle (17 year veteran) that was hit.

Vehicle hits state trooper on highway

By Elizabeth Dinan
GREENLAND -- While directing traffic around a storm-toppled tree on Interstate 95 Wednesday night, a state police trooper was hit by a car driven by an 83-year-old Massachusetts man.
According to State Police Troop A reports, two state police cruisers were parked in the southbound lane of the interstate in Greenland at about 8:30 p.m. Wednesday, both with emergency blue lights activated, while troopers directed traffic around the fallen tree in the breakdown and first lanes.
State police report that a four-door Toyota, driven by William Dillion, 83, of 45 Chase Road, Waltham, Mass., struck the rear of one of the police cruisers, causing Dillion's car to spin out of control and into an area where troopers were working to remove the tree from the road.
Police said Dillion's car then hit Sgt. James White, who was in the breakdown lane, sending him into nearby trees.
The trooper was transported to Portsmouth Regional Hospital by Greenland Fire and Rescue, and according to Troop A, had been released by Thursday morning. A state police spokesman said White was treated for lacerations to his head and received "lots of bruises."
Dillion and his passenger were uninjured, according to Troop A, which described the accident as under investigation by Sgt. Timothy Hackett, who is off-duty until Aug. 8.

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Humans have an infinite capacity to rationalize and justify their own behavior (especially to themselves). Drug dealers have the ability to make the gigantic leap - that they are innocent somehow because of their individual circumstances (whatever they are).

Laws are a black and white standard, they are made up of elements of the crime. If you met the elements, you committed the crime. In court is where your attorney can argue the circumstances and the gray area can be interpreted (or created), it works for you or not.

People don't generally tell doctors how the practice of medicine should be handled, because they assume the doctor is a professional. Police are routinely told how they should have handled every circumstance when in contact with the public.

It is a thankless job often. In many ways people are sheep, they assume their own safety. They leave valuables out in their cars. Then when the bad guy smashes out their window and takes their stuff they are pissed that the cop was not there to stop that conduct. There are not enough cops to protect absolutely everyone at the same time.

I could go on and on here. Think of any profession in the world, what if they took one hour off. One hour without doctors, at 12:30 to 1:30 this afternoon there would be no doctors, what would happen? Some people would obviously die. What would happen if everyone knew that all the police in the world were not going to be working from 12:30 to 1:30 this afternoon?

People are a lot like sheep. They fear the wolf. The sheep dog protects them from the wolf, the sheepdog looks a lot like a wolf to the sheep.

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:twak: :crying: :rolleyes:

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Can you point to the paragraph in the constitution that allows unreasonable measures based on a "hunch"? Even if the hunch is correct, the ends do not justify the means. Talk to 'ol Ben Franklin about that. He was right.


Open disrespect for authority, although not adviseable, is not illegal. It is no doubt stupid based on what it will bring you. But the point of discussion here is not the result, it's the means. The end result does NOT justify those means. That's a fundamental assersion inherent in the constitution.

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CO Hummer,

That letter was meant as a joke (obviously), not to be taken seriously.

On a serious issue, when I was a brand new rookie, my sergeant was driving an unmarked unit with poor lighting in the rear, just a couple of red and blue strobes. He stopped to help a young lady with two children in her car that had broken down in the left lane. Before he could get her vehicle moved to the shoulder, he was struck by a speeding vehicle in the rear of his car. He died on impact. That was my first week there.

I am a firearms and tactics instructor at my agency, I have trained three police officers that have been killed by gunfire in my state. I have lost two other friends in my line of work to traffic accidents (none were their fault). I have served in law enforcement for only ten years.

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I know. But it hit upon a real and prevailing attitude with a lot of cops.


BTW - I'm NOT in favor of flying by cops at 65mph. I don't think you should do that to anyone. The fact that they are law enforcement officers is irrelevant.

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Until you've walked a mile in their shoes.....

Please take the opportunity to go on a "ride along" with your local police. They do this often for the public, it might be a real eye opener.

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I have, many times. My sister is a cop.

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Was just getting ready to say that...

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This is simply another pragmatic argument.

What if I say "I'm a very busy person and have a very little free time. So, I need to driver faster than the speed limit. If you walked a mile in my shoes, you'd understand." ;) You'd probably throw something at me that says "well, the law is the law and you broke it". But, that is actually MY point.

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Naw, I would say, "Leave 10 min earlier." lol

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I've done "ride alongs" a few times and had a great time. Some punk ass bitch showed us respect by throwing an empty malt liquor bottle at us in a heavily patrolled ghetto. It was pretty sweet the way he was taken down by several officers.:giggling: (I've never done a ride-along in Va Beach. No fun and excitement.)

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The funniest ridealong I did was when we pulled over a drunk driver. Watching that guy try to do the roadside sobriety test was hilarious. But it got better when she put him in the car. He was all over me, telling me how it was illegal for me to be there and how he was going to sue me, etc, etc. I didn't say a word. Just kept a big grin on my face. :)

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Welp, there are one or two items that I can point to that are not covered in the Constitution. Most have to do with local, State and Federal code.

How did this jump to "unreasonable measures"? Or where does "hunch" fall into this? Flipping off a LEO is no different than swerving once while driving down the interstate. All it does if bring the attention of the LEO to check on you further. I don't think anyone advocates that it means that said LEO could search your person or vehicle without further cause, but it would mean he could simply pull you over for that act and ask why you did it to be sure he continues to protect the public. There's no hunch that someone randomly acting in anger to authority might be disturbed or acting upon some other motive.

It's insane to think that some guy flipping off a LEO SHOULDN'T get the attention of LEOs, if, for nothing else, to be sure that the guy is stable. No different than following a car or stopping a car for various other reasons.

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I would take for granted then, that she is a professional and takes her duties and oath seriously "to protect and uphold the Constitution of the United States".

If she developed an "attitude" about dealing with someone who might flip her off, (the part you seem concerned about) maybe that is a consequence of her everyday circumstances. How bout cutting her some slack?

I have lost almost a friend a year at work, and take sh*t from bad guys everyday that I work. I have been told how I should do my job almost everyday by the public. I must be a moron, except that I have been promoted by my agency to supervise other cops.

It is easy to sit back and point out the failings of others, no one is judged with hindsight like police. Yes, I am now whining on the internet also.

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What you should've done was type that in bold. Maybe some pictures as well?